Some input needed for New PC

[HalbesRechteck]

Budget (including currency): ~3000€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

• 50% gaming (Witcher 3, Hunt Showdown, Resident Evil VIII, Minecraft heavily modded, Dead Island 2, Cyberpunk... and lots more)
• 30% 3D work(Blender), light video editing (DaVinci Resolve)
• 20% programming (VSC, IntelliJ)
• some light streaming

Other details: 

I wanna build a completely new PC asap since my old one is really struggling at 1440p @144Hz and can't upgrade to Windows 11. No need for peripherals, but would love to have the new PC 6 years+ aswell.

My Current rig:

• CPU: Intel I7 5820K @ 4,2 GHz (with Corsair Hydro Series H110i)
• Motherboard: MSI X99A Raider
• GPU: Palit GeForce GTX 1080
• Sound Card: Creative sound blaster Z
• RAM: 16GB HyperX FURY
• 600 Watt be quiet! Pure Power 9
• NZXT S340
• Storage:
  • SSD, 256GB Kingston KC400
  • NVMe SSD, Sabrent SB-Rocket 2TB
  • HDD, Seagate 2TB

 

I'm gonna reuse the Storage and the Sound Card. Since some programs have to be installed on the boot drive (currently the Kingston) we have to bump up to a 512GB SSD.

What would you build with that kind of money given the requirements? Just wanna have some input since the last build I did was 2016 and the market has changed drastically.

Some nice to haves:

• Case shouldn't be to chunky and maybe white
• No wireless stuff required

 

Cheers!

 

[brob]

Motherboard WiFi is close to standard these days.

 

No point in getting a new SATA SSD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor  (€591.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€101.89 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790 CARBON WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€394.44 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory  (€179.57 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€130.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Video Card: MSI SUPRIM X GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (€1347.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL ATX Full Tower Case  (€199.52 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€164.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z 24-bit 192 kHz Sound Card  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Total: €3111.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 05:51 CEST+0200

[Forleb]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/njrKHG

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€426.99 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool ASSASSIN IV 79.1 CFM CPU Cooler  (€97.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€307.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€225.89 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: MSI RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1699.97 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€66.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€147.91 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2973.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 05:43 CEST+0200

 

A €3,000 computer needs to be a little chunky unfortunately. I can't find any reasonably priced white motherboards that are ideal for a 7900X, so I settled on a blackout theme. No liquid cooler ensures a lifespan well beyond 6 years with proper care. I would advise converting to strictly SSDs in the near future.

[Why_Me]

https://geizhals.de/   <--- check this site for better prices on these components.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€405.80 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€69.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€159.79 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6400 CL36 Memory  (€164.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: *Samsung 870 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€34.99 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (€1265.99 @ Alternate) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€136.80 @ Galaxus) 
Total: €2358.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 09:41 CEST+0200

 

A better look at those components. 

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/ 

 

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A850G-PCIE5

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI   

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html 

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-WH-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15496.shtml  

 

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-4080-16GB-VENTUS-3X-OC   

[QuantumSingularity]

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€577.99 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€58.54 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€307.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€127.89 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: MSI RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1699.97 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case  (€92.89 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€153.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €3019.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 10:16 CEST+0200

 

 

Here you have 7950X + best air cooler + One of the best value X670E mobos + 4090 + a PSU that will be able to handle all of that power + white case ... This will slay on both fronts. The 7950X is slightly slower than the 7800X3D in gaming, but it's much faster in production workloads.

[SorryBella]

5 hours ago, QuantumSingularity said:

 

Here you have 7950X + best air cooler + One of the best value X670E mobos + 4090 + a PSU that will be able to handle all of that power + white case ... This will slay on both fronts. The 7950X is slightly slower than the 7800X3D in gaming, but it's much faster in production workloads.

Thin compression. Glad that all the productivity here scales the 32 threads because in the case that it isn't like in Adobe, the 13700 would come out cheaper and faster.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€582.99 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€61.98 @ Alternate) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€178.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€224.87 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1695.99 @ Cyberport) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€107.89 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€130.66 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2983.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 15:51 CEST+0200

[QuantumSingularity]

Usually i don't like pairing 7950X with B650 mobos. The whole point of that CPU is that it's a productivity monsters and allows for some heavy PCIe usage. You are basically cutting it half with a B650 mobo

[HalbesRechteck]

Appreciate all the input so far! I think a 13900K or 7950X would be overkill, since most of the rendering is GPU bound. At least that's my understanding. So a 7900x or even a 7700x + a RTX 4080/4090 would be enough? Didn't know there was a 48GB RAM kit, seems like a sweet spot. Are the MSI GPUs in particular good, cause I see them in every recommendation? 

[Why_Me]

12 hours ago, HalbesRechteck said:

Appreciate all the input so far! I think a 13900K or 7950X would be overkill, since most of the rendering is GPU bound. At least that's my understanding. So a 7900x or even a 7700x + a RTX 4080/4090 would be enough? Didn't know there was a 48GB RAM kit, seems like a sweet spot. Are the MSI GPUs in particular good, cause I see them in every recommendation? 

MSI makes good gpu's.

[QuantumSingularity]

17 hours ago, HalbesRechteck said:

Appreciate all the input so far! I think a 13900K or 7950X would be overkill, since most of the rendering is GPU bound. At least that's my understanding. So a 7900x or even a 7700x + a RTX 4080/4090 would be enough? Didn't know there was a 48GB RAM kit, seems like a sweet spot. Are the MSI GPUs in particular good, cause I see them in every recommendation? 

Technically everything above the minimum required is overkill, if you have all the time in the world. People who pay top money for workstations do it, because those stations earn them money. The less time you spend rendering or crunching or encoding, the more work you can get done in a certain amount of time, the more money you can get at the end of the month or you can have more free time to enjoy other things. The difference between 7700X+4080 to 7950X+4090 in productivity is as big as comparing a tug boat to an aircraft carrier. The 7700X is more than 2 times slower in productivity tasks than the 7950X. In Blender especially a single render can take up to 3 times longer on the 7700X compared to the 7950X.

And the 4080 vs 4090 - it's not even in the same ball park. It's like they are 2 entirely different generations of GPUs, not same generation, different class.