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hey guys 

 

I'm going to study Architectural Technology soon and require a Laptop to use 

the school I'm going to attend has a laptop they recommend but I have found that they severely overpriced it

The laptop they recommend is a Dell G15 5511. I5 11400H, 32 GB Ram, Nvidia RTX3050ti w/4GB GDDR6

so I'd just like to know if anyone has any better recommendation (with a  $1400 budget)

I will also be using it to play some games (not as important)

 

Thank you so much 

 

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(without knowing the cost of the G15) That seems like a perfectly reasonable suggestion for the type of software you will be dealing with, albeit a few generations old. Finding a more modern equivalent in that price range should be reasonable to do. 

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38 minutes ago, akihisa147 said:

hey guys 

 

I'm going to study Architectural Technology soon and require a Laptop to use 

the school I'm going to attend has a laptop they recommend but I have found that they severely overpriced it

The laptop they recommend is a Dell G15 5511. I5 11400H, 32 GB Ram, Nvidia RTX3050ti w/4GB GDDR6

so I'd just like to know if anyone has any better recommendation (with a  $1400 budget)

I will also be using it to play some games (not as important)

 

Thank you so much 

 

For a 1400 dollar budget we can do better 

try any of these

ASUS TUF Gaming A17 (2023) Gaming Laptop, 17.3" FHD 144Hz Display, GeForce RTX 4070, AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS, 16GB DDR5, 1TB PCIe 4.0 SSD, Wi-Fi 6, Windows 11, FA707XI-NS94 - Newegg.com

Colorful Gaming Laptop, Intel 13th Gen Core i7-13700HX, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop, 15.6" 165Hz IPS Screen 16GB DDR5 4800MHz, 512GB SSD, Windows 11 Home (Grey) - Newegg.com

RTX 3070 - MSI Katana GF66 12UGSOK-1046 Gaming Laptop Intel Core i9-12900H 2.50GHz 15.6" Windows 11 Home - Newegg.com

RTX 4060 - MSI Katana 15 B12VFK-237CA Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7-12650H(2.30GHz) 15.6" Windows 11 Home 64-bit - Newegg.com

RTX 4070 - MSI Katana 15 B12VGK-082US Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7-12650H 2.30 GHz 15.6" Windows 11 Home 64-bit - Newegg.com

Refurbished with an RTX 3080 - Refurbished: Aorus 15P YD-73US344SH Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7-11800H 2.30 GHz 15.6" Windows 10 Home 64-bit - Newegg.com

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Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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2 minutes ago, filpo said:

 

For a 1400 dollar budget we can do better 

try any of these

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None of these laptops have 32GB of RAM, which if the school is recommending a PC specced with that, I am to assume the primary drafting application is very memory intensive. OP, if going with these suggestions ensure that the memory is upgradable on that machine if you run into a limitation there. 

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1 minute ago, Skipple said:

None of these laptops have 32GB of RAM, which if the school is recommending a PC specced with that, I am to assume the primary draft application is very memory intensive. OP, if going with these suggestions ensure that the memory is upgradable on that machine if you run into a limitation there. 

 

47 minutes ago, akihisa147 said:

hey guys 

 

I'm going to study Architectural Technology soon and require a Laptop to use 

the school I'm going to attend has a laptop they recommend but I have found that they severely overpriced it

The laptop they recommend is a Dell G15 5511. I5 11400H, 32 GB Ram, Nvidia RTX3050ti w/4GB GDDR6

so I'd just like to know if anyone has any better recommendation (with a  $1400 budget)

I will also be using it to play some games (not as important)

 

Thank you so much 

 

These then MSI Bravo 15 15.6" 144Hz Gaming Laptop AMD Ryzen R7-7735HS RTX4060 32GB 1TB NVMe SSD Win11 - Newegg.com

New Acer Predator Helios 300 15.6" FHD 144Hz Gaming Laptop | Intel Core i7 11th Gen 11800H | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 | 32GB RAM | 512GBSSD+1TBHDD | RGB Backlit | Windows 11 | With Mouse Pad Bundle - Newegg.com

Acer Nitro 5 Gaming Laptop, 15.6" QHD IPS FreeSyncPremium 165Hz, AMD Ryzen 7 6800H (Beat i9-11950H) Up to 4.7GHz, GeForce RTX 3070 Ti, 32GB DDR5, 1TB PCIe 4.0, 4-Zone RGB KB, WiFi 6E, RJ45, Win11 Pro - Newegg.com

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For £175.00) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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15 minutes ago, filpo said:

These then MSI Bravo 15 15.6" 144Hz Gaming Laptop AMD Ryzen R7-7735HS RTX4060 32GB 1TB NVMe SSD Win11 - Newegg.com

New Acer Predator Helios 300 15.6" FHD 144Hz Gaming Laptop | Intel Core i7 11th Gen 11800H | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 | 32GB RAM | 512GBSSD+1TBHDD | RGB Backlit | Windows 11 | With Mouse Pad Bundle - Newegg.com

Acer Nitro 5 Gaming Laptop, 15.6" QHD IPS FreeSyncPremium 165Hz, AMD Ryzen 7 6800H (Beat i9-11950H) Up to 4.7GHz, GeForce RTX 3070 Ti, 32GB DDR5, 1TB PCIe 4.0, 4-Zone RGB KB, WiFi 6E, RJ45, Win11 Pro - Newegg.com

Do you have Benchmarks? I remember my Acer Nitro 5 being a scam, its GTX 1060 performed worse than my old GTX 750Ti.

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Sure would be neat if there was something useful here, eh?

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1 minute ago, Bismut said:

Do you have Benchmarks? I remember my Acer Nitro 5 being a scam, its GTX 1060 performed worse than my old GTX 750Ti.

Their mobile chips. Also the silicon doesn’t change on the laptop model, the gpu is always the same. That’s just how the mobile gtx 1060 performs

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For £175.00) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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2 minutes ago, filpo said:

Their mobile chips. Also the silicon doesn’t change on the laptop model, the gpu is always the same. That’s just how the mobile gtx 1060 performs

No, that heavily depends on the cooling and power provided by the laptop. There are no power guarantees, so you can either buy a 60W 'RTX 3060' or a 115W version, both being labeled the same but offering wildly different amounts of performance. That is why I would almost label some laptops as scams, because they promise something that you will not get.

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Sure would be neat if there was something useful here, eh?

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27 minutes ago, Bismut said:

Do you have Benchmarks? I remember my Acer Nitro 5 being a scam, its GTX 1060 performed worse than my old GTX 750Ti.

in the T&C's they did state that there might be differences in the performances, that's why i would rather get my own one so that i know what to do if i run into like a bottle neck or something like that 

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3 minutes ago, Bismut said:

No, that heavily depends on the cooling and power provided by the laptop. There are no power guarantees, so you can either buy a 60W 'RTX 3060' or a 115W version, both being labeled the same but offering wildly different amounts of performance. That is why I would almost label some laptops as scams, because they promise something that you will not get.

With a 3060 in both it seems to be about 5% overall difference (yes the acer loses but by a little bit) 

The 3060 was also drawing less power tho

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Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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57 minutes ago, Skipple said:

(without knowing the cost of the G15) That seems like a perfectly reasonable suggestion for the type of software you will be dealing with, albeit a few generations old. Finding a more modern equivalent in that price range should be reasonable to do. 

the main apps i would be using would be auto desk's AutoCAD, rivet2023 and 3d max as well as adobe's photoshop, illustrator and in design. aswell as just like office and different types of slicers for 3d modeling. 

just not sure whether it would be more focused on single or multi core performance 

i was looking at the ASUS ROG Strix G15 G513RM with 32Gb ram or the HP OMEN 16-k0003ni

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4 hours ago, filpo said:

With a 3060 in both it seems to be about 5% overall difference (yes the acer loses but by a little bit) 

The 3060 was also drawing less power tho

Yes, and that is why it is drawing less power. Those Laptops might have the same power target with slightly different cooling solutions, but you cannot fairly compare a 65W chip to a 115W chip, because those are different leagues. Imagine running a 4090 at 500W and comparing it to one that can only draw 250W.

They would not be the same card at that point, as far as I am concerned.

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4 hours ago, akihisa147 said:

the main apps i would be using would be auto desk's AutoCAD, rivet2023 and 3d max as well as adobe's photoshop, illustrator and in design. aswell as just like office and different types of slicers for 3d modeling.

Do you *need* that performance "on the go" (as in, at desks that are not in your home)? I would go with an old business laptop and a Desktop instead if you do not.

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Sure would be neat if there was something useful here, eh?

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17 hours ago, akihisa147 said:

i was looking at the ASUS ROG Strix G15 G513RM with 32Gb

the g15 would be good but what are its specs?

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Purchased For £175.00) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (Purchased For £144.99) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (Purchased For £89.99) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Storage: Kingston A400 960 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £448.99) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (Purchased For £82.98) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £99.00) 
Total: £1040.95

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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