Buy Decision Help needed.

[CasoF13]

Basiclly whats better a 4080 ventus x3 oc or a gainward phantom (or gs)

the gainward seam to be more expensive 100&

does ada msi have much coil whine ?

should i get instead of new a used 4080 from these models if i can get 100 extra off ? 

also i have an non sens pin psu (8pin power) 850w. will the gs be a problem because its need 4 8pins to 12vhp ?

whats the better model ?

Whats the better brand in ada ?

 

thx in regards 

sorry for my bad language im on mobil right now

 

 

 

 

[filpo]

1 minute ago, CasoF13 said:

does ada msi have much coil whine ?

it depends from model to model (a bit like the silicon lottery, every single gpu might have different amounts)

 

1 minute ago, CasoF13 said:

whats the better model ?

Whats the better brand in ada ?

tbh I think gainward's fine but msi's ventus cards don't have cooling on the vrms so for a 4080 I wouldn't get that

 

Also why not a 7900 xtx for less? That would be my pick

[IkeaGnome]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

msi's ventus cards don't have cooling on the vrms so for a 4080

The cooler comes in contact with the VRMs.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4080-suprim-x/3.html

[CasoF13]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

it depends from model to model (a bit like the silicon lottery, every single gpu might have different amounts)

 

tbh I think gainward's fine but msi's ventus cards don't have cooling on the vrms so for a 4080 I wouldn't get that

 

Also why not a 7900 xtx for less? That would be my pick

no vrm cooling ? are thes on all vents ada gpus ?

i initally wanted xtx but at my region there was a price spike on xtx maybe because more poeple are buying it know making it More expensive or  a tie with the 4080 so for me thas unfortunaly a non option anymore

[filpo]

1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

The cooler comes in contact with the VRMs.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4080-suprim-x/3.html

MSI SUPRIM GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card (RTX 4080 16GB SUPRIM) - PCPartPicker

$1360 for a 4080? At that point maybe a 4090 could be in store

[CasoF13]

1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

The cooler comes in contact with the VRMs.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4080-suprim-x/3.html

but thas a suprim not a ventus

[filpo]

Just now, CasoF13 said:

are thes on all vents ada gpus ?

only on the msi ventus models

 

1 minute ago, CasoF13 said:

initally wanted xtx but at my region there was a price spike on xtx maybe because more poeple are buying it know making it More expensive or  a tie with the 4080 so for me thas unfortunaly a non option anymore

which region/country? Is it in europe?

[CasoF13]

europe austria

[CasoF13]

how important is vrm cooling ( or in msi ventus case NO vrm cooling ) at 4080/4090 level?

[Paul17]

43 minutes ago, CasoF13 said:

how important is vrm cooling ( or in msi ventus case NO vrm cooling ) at 4080/4090 level?

4080s and 4090s are pretty good designs - at least, in comparison to the AMD 7900 series.   In Austria, imho - the best deal is the Inno3D X3 iChill - 1279 euros - a good AMD 7900 XTX card by comparison is the Sapphire Pulse 1069 euros or Nitro+ at 1149 euros - so, the AMD cards are approx. $100 (Nitro+) to $200 (Pulse) cheaper, respectively.   

The AMD cards are good for gaming and not much else - although, in some video editing programs, they seem to be adequate - Davinci Resolve, for e.g. (I researched this stuff).

If you want more features like raytracing, DLSS3, etc., AI, CUDA, rendering - then the Nvidia card is probably a better buy depending how extensively you do other things.   The AMD cards are a better buy for strictly/only gaming - as performance is probably on par with the 4080 or better in various games/resolutions.   

It also depends what your budget is - the Nvidia cards are usually more expensive depending on series.   They are better designs, they don't require as much power (psu can be lower wattage) and most likely - they will be quieter than the average 7900 series card.  The AMD 6950 xt, for e.g., was supposedly a quiet card - but, 7900 series might be noisy - there's coil whine concerns and although both nvidia/amd have this problem - there seems to be more coil whine complaints with AMD 7900s?  

[CasoF13]

45 minutes ago, Paul17 said:

4080s and 4090s are pretty good designs - at least, in comparison to the AMD 7900 series.   In Austria, imho - the best deal is the Inno3D X3 iChill - 1279 euros - a good AMD 7900 XTX card by comparison is the Sapphire Pulse 1069 euros or Nitro+ at 1149 euros - so, the AMD cards are approx. $100 (Nitro+) to $200 (Pulse) cheaper, respectively.   

The AMD cards are good for gaming and not much else - although, in some video editing programs, they seem to be adequate - Davinci Resolve, for e.g. (I researched this stuff).

If you want more features like raytracing, DLSS3, etc., AI, CUDA, rendering - then the Nvidia card is probably a better buy depending how extensively you do other things.   The AMD cards are a better buy for strictly/only gaming - as performance is probably on par with the 4080 or better in various games/resolutions.   

It also depends what your budget is - the Nvidia cards are usually more expensive depending on series.   They are better designs, they don't require as much power (psu can be lower wattage) and most likely - they will be quieter than the average 7900 series card.  The AMD 6950 xt, for e.g., was supposedly a quiet card - but, 7900 series might be noisy - there's coil whine concerns and although both nvidia/amd have this problem - there seems to be more coil whine complaints with AMD 7900s?  

thx because i would need the gpu not only for gaming its team greedia ... but the question still remains if a ventus 4080 which has no vrm cooling is ok or if i should go with a card thats 140 € more exp for just the vrm cooling alone and light oc maybe in the future or us buying low as possible inside a given tier should/could be ok and like i said 

i am currently tirn betwenn gainward gs and non gs or ventud