Finally upgrading

[Syzygy027]

Budget (including currency): $800(usd) this set of upgrades, will be getting a graphics card seperately later.

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mainly upgrading for Starfield, play a lot of games, but also use the computer for work when I work from home. Not much high computing, just a ton of tabs open since I fluctuate back and forth between work and play. I generally prefer paying a little extra for guarantee/reliability cause I use the machine all the time.

 

This is my current machine: 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Syzygy027/saved/#view=xJT323

I plan on reusing the case, psu, and peripherals. I'll be upgrading the graphics card later, it's fine for now. It was a quick replacement for the card that was originally in the machine that died.

 

This is what I have so far, but I plan on getting parts on Prime day so they might change a little, but any discount I get just means I'll be able to upgrade the gpu sooner.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Syzygy027/saved/#view=rvKdqs

 

Any comments are welcome, just making sure everything is good since it has been a while since I built a machine.

 

[The Hope]

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just a ton of tabs open

Intel Core i5 13600KF is about the same price and has slightly higher multi-core performance

 

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Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive

Corsair MP600PRO NH PCIe 4.0 NVME M.2 SSD, 2 TB SSD has the same read speeds but outperforms the Samsung in write speeds.

 

The Corsair MP600PRO is usually cheaper as well.

[SorryBella]

51 minutes ago, Syzygy027 said:

Mainly upgrading for Starfield, play a lot of games, but also use the computer for work when I work from home. Not much high computing, just a ton of tabs open since I fluctuate back and forth between work and play. I generally prefer paying a little extra for guarantee/reliability cause I use the machine all the time.

If youre on Chromium based browsers remember to enable sleeping tabs feature.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($349.99 @ Best Buy) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($42.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B760M PG Riptide Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($136.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($108.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($72.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 VENTUS GP OC GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Silverstone RV01B-W-USB3.0 ATX Full Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case Fan: Cougar Vortex 70.5 CFM 120 mm Fan  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $821.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-23 22:20 EDT-0400

 

Your PSU is getting old (around 10-15 years old is when id start to monitor them) and its not a remarkable unit on launch. If you want to get a good GPU youll need a quick PSU upgrade. Yes, 850 is fine even for 4090.

 

[The Hope]

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G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5200 CL36 Memory

You can save 20$ if you go for DDR4-4000 CL18

 

The DDR4 will perform the same (on average) because it has better timings.

[Why_Me]

@Syzygy027 replace your psu before you do anything. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($289.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($164.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($92.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Corsair) 
Total: $797.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-23 22:23 EDT-0400

[PC HEROES]

50 minutes ago, Syzygy027 said:

Budget (including currency): $800(usd) this set of upgrades, will be getting a graphics card seperately later.

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mainly upgrading for Starfield, play a lot of games, but also use the computer for work when I work from home. Not much high computing, just a ton of tabs open since I fluctuate back and forth between work and play. I generally prefer paying a little extra for guarantee/reliability cause I use the machine all the time.

 

This is my current machine: 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Syzygy027/saved/#view=xJT323

I plan on reusing the case, psu, and peripherals. I'll be upgrading the graphics card later, it's fine for now. It was a quick replacement for the card that was originally in the machine that died.

 

This is what I have so far, but I plan on getting parts on Prime day so they might change a little, but any discount I get just means I'll be able to upgrade the gpu sooner.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Syzygy027/saved/#view=rvKdqs

 

Any comments are welcome, just making sure everything is good since it has been a while since I built a machine.

 

Hi, I was looking over your list and I made some changes. They really are for the better.

 

I switched the CPU to the 13600KF, it has more Cores and is faster then the 12700KF. Also the Motherboard. It is a Z690 but it is a top Board on sale right now and it has a Digital Numbered Debug LED Code Read-out if you ever have any problems. Just update the BIOS before you install the CPU.

 

I changed the RAM you has to better match the speeds that a Intel 1700 Socket should have and not feel really slow. I got you 32GB of DDR5 6000mhz CL32 for the best sweet spot for the RAM.

 

The M.2 Drive I put in is a bit faster than the Samsung and won't need a Firmware update like the Samsung will.

 

And finally I had to throw in a new PC Case. The one you had has really bad Airflow, next to none and it will most certainly cook your new PC. So I added a Case that has a Full Mesh Front and Top Panel as well as 3 RGB Fans and I added an extra Fan for the Rear of the Case.

 

I think this will be a really great PC.

 

I have been building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please ask. Also DM me if you would like any other info about what I do.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8WnBsL

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($289.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($42.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($265.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: OLOy Blade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair MP600 PRO XT 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 520 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.93 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($18.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $890.77

[Why_Me]

7 minutes ago, PC HEROES said:

Hi, I was looking over your list and I made some changes. They really are for the better.

 

I switched the CPU to the 13600KF, it has more Cores and is faster then the 12700KF. Also the Motherboard. It is a Z690 but it is a top Board on sale right now and it has a Digital Numbered Debug LED Code Read-out if you ever have any problems. Just update the BIOS before you install the CPU.

 

I changed the RAM you has to better match the speeds that a Intel 1700 Socket should have and not feel really slow. I got you 32GB of DDR5 6000mhz CL32 for the best sweet spot for the RAM.

 

The M.2 Drive I put in is a bit faster than the Samsung and won't need a Firmware update like the Samsung will.

 

And finally I had to throw in a new PC Case. The one you had has really bad Airflow, next to none and it will most certainly cook your new PC. So I added a Case that has a Full Mesh Front and Top Panel as well as 3 RGB Fans and I added an extra Fan for the Rear of the Case.

 

I think this will be a really great PC.

 

I have been building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please ask. Also DM me if you would like any other info about what I do.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8WnBsL

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($289.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($42.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($265.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: OLOy Blade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair MP600 PRO XT 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 520 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.93 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($18.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $890.77

You don't want a Z690 board for a DDR5 build do to the inferior memory support. 

[The Hope]

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Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($265.99 @ Amazon)

It's above his budget. I like ASUS ProArt B760-CREATOR D4, socket 1700 

But for his budget it would be optimal if the motherboard is around 140$

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Memory: OLOy Blade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg)

DDR4-4000 CL18 performs the same on average and is 30$ cheaper.

[Syzygy027]

Great feedback, thanks everyone. Definitely switching to the 13600KF as everyone suggested.

15 hours ago, The Hope said:

You can save 20$ if you go for DDR4-4000 CL18

 

The DDR4 will perform the same (on average) because it has better timings.

Ill look into Memory timings more, didn't do much of a deep dive yet, also thanks for the tip on the drive.

 

15 hours ago, PC HEROES said:

And finally I had to throw in a new PC Case. The one you had has really bad Airflow, next to none and it will most certainly cook your new PC. So I added a Case that has a Full Mesh Front and Top Panel as well as 3 RGB Fans and I added an extra Fan for the Rear of the Case.

Most of your other suggestions are great, but where are you getting this information from that you think I need a new case? Maybe you just saw a pic of it and didn't understand it? I love this case, it's weird cause it rotates the motherboard giving it the best airflow I've ever seen... It has giant fans on the bottom that push air through the case and a fan on top that pulls air out, plus I put an extra on the back to help out the gpu. Plus since it's pulling everything from the bottom of the case it's really easy to keep clean. 

 

I also hear the concerns about the PSU, but I'm not worried, it's not common for power supplies to fail, and I have not put stress on this one. I might get one before I upgrade my gpu though.

 

 

[PC HEROES]

17 minutes ago, Syzygy027 said:

Great feedback, thanks everyone. Definitely switching to the 13600KF as everyone suggested.

Ill look into Memory timings more, didn't do much of a deep dive yet, also thanks for the tip on the drive.

 

Most of your other suggestions are great, but where are you getting this information from that you think I need a new case? Maybe you just saw a pic of it and didn't understand it? I love this case, it's weird cause it rotates the motherboard giving it the best airflow I've ever seen... It has giant fans on the bottom that push air through the case and a fan on top that pulls air out, plus I put an extra on the back to help out the gpu. Plus since it's pulling everything from the bottom of the case it's really easy to keep clean. 

 

I also hear the concerns about the PSU, but I'm not worried, it's not common for power supplies to fail, and I have not put stress on this one. I might get one before I upgrade my gpu though.

 

 

First please allow me to say that I am very sorry. I was only suggesting that a new Case be looked into. And you are right I was basing my opinion on just how it looked. After watching a review on YouTube I can now see how it works and why it is in such a different way. If you love it then by all means please keep it. For future knowledge though when it is finally time to retire it please keep in mind that PC parts are getting hotter over time and more Airflow is always preferred.

 

As for the PSU again it's just an opinion. In my 30 years in this business PSUs are the most common part to fail in a PC. If you have a working unit and it hasn't given you any problems then great. From the reviews I read on Newegg about this PSU is some of them begin to fail right after the 3 year warranty expires. It's not exactly up there on the Cultist list either, I think it's C or D Tier. No part is immune to failing. Just be careful on how long you use it for and I would advise not using a new GPU with it either.

 

I'm happy that you like my other ideas. If you need anymore help please let me know. I believe I can help more if need be, just send me a DM and I can explain more.