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No Problem at all.

however to do what you want your budget is far more than is required.

You can with that budget build an excellent PC so despite arguments about which CPU what level of memory etc I would still advice you to lok at some good builds on the Origin PC website. just make notes of the items being used. CPU CASE GPU Motherboard etc.

you can then go to Micro Center website and use their PC builder app to drop in thoise same parts to see what it would cost to build yourself. 

They also have the option to build it immediately for a relatively low price if you dont want to build it yourself.

Nothing is future proof and whilst DDR5 is the new kid on the block along with SSD gen 5 they will not make any mind blowing difference to what it is that you wish to do. DDR4 is last gen but it is more than adequate for your need. 

However with 2000 USD you can step up to the latest motherboards CPUs and DDR5 if you wish. 

I just feel that if stability is such a high priority that the demands your making on the PC last gen is fine and should last several years still.

It is not made redundant just because newer and faster exists.

Right now 1000s of people are tickled pink with the new gen but there are also 100s of people suffering odd issues and some stability issue as the new gen settles in and everything runs smooth as silk.

Last gen is so well established and is very stable that is all.

CBudget (including currency): 2000$usd (not including monitors or keyboard)

Country: us

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: heavy multitasking. Web browsing/multiple trading platforms at same time. I'm talking like two trading platforms and 2 web browsers/YouTube at the same time.

Also would like to avoid doing upgrades in the near future.

Playing runescape would be a bonus to the build

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This is also my first pc build.

My main goal for this build is for it to be a multitasking tank. It needs to be reliable. Therefore, would the ability to play runescape clash with the build?

Would a ryzen 7 5700g be sufficient?

Need 2 monitors with option for 3rd. 

upgrading from my laptop

Im going to srart buying now

1080hd for now with ability to upgrade? 

Looking for a full parts list or an answer to these questions, thanks yall.

 

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This gives you the option to upgrade your graphics card later on although the $300 RTX 4060 is due for release this July if you want to save $100. 

 

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CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($349.99 @ Best Buy) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($164.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte EAGLE GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
Case: *Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Best Buy) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
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https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-G24F-Monitor-Response-DisplayPort/dp/B0B5VY6ZFC 

GIGABYTE G24F 2 $144.99

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/G24F-2#kf 

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/pop/pop-air/black-tg-clear/ 

 

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A850G-PCIE5 

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html 

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2021/13067.shtml 

 

https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn770-nvme-ssd#WDS200T3X0E 

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N406TEAGLE-OC-8GD#kf

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28 minutes ago, Cotyt94 said:

Would a ryzen 7 5700g be sufficient?

yes but with a 2000USD budget why such a low end CPU..if gaming and a little multitasking the 5800X3D is far superior even today holding its own against flagship CPUs for games.

I really think you would do well to have a look at some of the prebuilt pCs by good builders........no dell no Hp.

if you see for example an excellent build from origin for example just make a note of the items being used then drop those items into a Part picker app at a decent store like Micro center. Then you can see the costs and also on the fly make adjustments as 2000USD today can build a dammed fine Rig 

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3 minutes ago, johnno23 said:

yes but with a 2000USD budget why such a low end CPU..if gaming and a little multitasking the 5800X3D is far superior even today holding its own against flagship CPUs for games.

I really think you would do well to have a look at some of the prebuilt pCs by good builders........no dell no Hp.

if you see for example an excellent build from origin for example just make a note of the items being used then drop those items into a Part picker app at a decent store like Micro center. Then you can see the costs and also on the fly make adjustments as 2000USD today can build a dammed fine Rig 

The only game the OP plays is Runescape which you can run on a potato.

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5 minutes ago, johnno23 said:

yes but with a 2000USD budget why such a low end CPU..if gaming and a little multitasking the 5800X3D is far superior even today holding its own against flagship CPUs for games.

I really think you would do well to have a look at some of the prebuilt pCs by good builders........no dell no Hp.

if you see for example an excellent build from origin for example just make a note of the items being used then drop those items into a Part picker app at a decent store like Micro center. Then you can see the costs and also on the fly make adjustments as 2000USD today can build a dammed fine Rig 

Thank you for this.

I have a friend with the ryzen for sale, so was just wondering. 

Also, when you say " a little multitasking" do you mean my multitasking requirements are on the low end?

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5 minutes ago, Cotyt94 said:

Thank you for this.

I have a friend with the ryzen for sale, so was just wondering. 

Also, when you say " a little multitasking" do you mean my multitasking requirements are on the low end?

The 5800X3D is a pure gaming cpu. It excels at gaming and pretty much sucks at everything else.

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I got the impression you were thinking of running a few games and watching youtube videos having browsers with multiple tabs open and basically flipping around different websites etc.

I often have games running in the background as I am farming resources that can be doen AFK an then pop in here and type answers like this....for me that is multitasking. I am right now running a space game Eve online but my ship is happy mining resources.

I also have a couple of youtube windows open as I was/am researching fittings for ships that i own .

I can also go edit photos etc if i want all at the same time etc etc and I am on a 5900x which by todays standards is still excellent but by no means a flagship CPU

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1 minute ago, Why_Me said:

The 5800X3D is a pure gaming cpu. It excels at gaming and pretty much sucks at everything else.

untrue......the chip is no flagship but more capable than the 5700x and more than capable to do everything the OP wants.

With the budget he has he can go much higher but was referencing a 5700x

He also wants stability and bleeding edge is super fast but rock solid is not always the result.

his description of what he wants to do is not that clear but overall any half decent CPU from the last two years would be adequate.

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5 minutes ago, johnno23 said:

untrue......the chip is no flagship but more capable than the 5700x and more than capable to do everything the OP wants.

With the budget he has he can go much higher but was referencing a 5700x

He also wants stability and bleeding edge is super fast but rock solid is not always the result.

his description of what he wants to do is not that clear but overall any half decent CPU from the last two years would be adequate.

Maybe you can explain to the OP how the 5800X3D doesn't support DDR5 and other than being an excellent gaming cpu its average at best at everything else or if you'd like I can link reviews of that cpu from Gamers Nexus, TPU and Tomshardware.

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4 minutes ago, johnno23 said:

untrue......the chip is no flagship but more capable than the 5700x and more than capable to do everything the OP wants.

With the budget he has he can go much higher but was referencing a 5700x

He also wants stability and bleeding edge is super fast but rock solid is not always the result.

his description of what he wants to do is not that clear but overall any half decent CPU from the last two years would be adequate.

Ahh I can see how I've not been super clear. 

The main goal is for this to be a day trading rig. Running Thinkorswim/Webull

At the same time as a couple other applications like tradingview at the same time and browsing the web using search heavily. 

Playing runescape at the same time would be rare but would still like the ability to play the game while running these other platforms.

 

 

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The usage described is not very demanding of GPU or CPU. Performance of current gen CPU is stunning compared to just a couple of years ago. Certainly a 5700 XT GPU would be fine. I would suggest something newer.

 

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CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($247.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($164.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7600 8 GB Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM650x (2021) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1128.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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6 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Maybe you can explain to the OP how the 5800X3D doesn't support DDR5 and other than being an excellent gaming cpu its average at best at everything else or if you'd like I can link reviews of that cpu from Gamers Nexus, TPU and Tomshardware.

why just assume that everyone has to run DDR5.

his starting point was a DDR4 system 5700x

I stated he would do well to check origin pcs and look for a build he felt meets his needs and from there go to a part picker as he has such a good budget.

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3 minutes ago, johnno23 said:

you should be fine as pretty much everything you want to do is web based or am i incorrect 

Yeah I believe trading platforms are mostly web based I know thinkorswim is more of javascript format. I don't know about webull though. I'm basically a caveman when it comes to pc talk so thanks for bearing with me

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No Problem at all.

however to do what you want your budget is far more than is required.

You can with that budget build an excellent PC so despite arguments about which CPU what level of memory etc I would still advice you to lok at some good builds on the Origin PC website. just make notes of the items being used. CPU CASE GPU Motherboard etc.

you can then go to Micro Center website and use their PC builder app to drop in thoise same parts to see what it would cost to build yourself. 

They also have the option to build it immediately for a relatively low price if you dont want to build it yourself.

Nothing is future proof and whilst DDR5 is the new kid on the block along with SSD gen 5 they will not make any mind blowing difference to what it is that you wish to do. DDR4 is last gen but it is more than adequate for your need. 

However with 2000 USD you can step up to the latest motherboards CPUs and DDR5 if you wish. 

I just feel that if stability is such a high priority that the demands your making on the PC last gen is fine and should last several years still.

It is not made redundant just because newer and faster exists.

Right now 1000s of people are tickled pink with the new gen but there are also 100s of people suffering odd issues and some stability issue as the new gen settles in and everything runs smooth as silk.

Last gen is so well established and is very stable that is all.

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