Help with planning first build

[pinkybrain]

Budget (including currency): 2500€ with flexibility

Country: Spain

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming - Apex, RTS, Forza 5, Elite Dangerous

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): first 'serious' gaming PC (current PC is Asus Rog X13 without the external GPU). Have all peripherals, will only be buying new monitor (not in budget).

 

Hi, I am planning on a build of my PC. It will act as my home studio work PC (but all I do is docs, etc so no real need there) but I want to build a good rig for gaming.

 

I already have the case because I love the aesthetics of the Fractal North, rest I haven't purchased. 

 

My parts list is below but I have some doubts:

 

- I want no RGB. Preferably black parts, ideal if they have a brass accent like the case.

- GPU: RTX 4080 seems too expensive for the value (c.1300€ here) and 4090 is out of the question. The AMD 7900XTX seems like the best option in the range but my concern is if XFX are a good brand to buy. Any alternatives?

- CPU cooling. I picked at random. Any recommendations? Liquid or air cooling? Air cooling I am looking at Noctua NHDU12A. On liquid, the Fractal Celsius 28 Dynamic. If liquid, would it work to put the radiator on top of case, plus three intake fans front and one exhaust back?

- PSU: again, chose at random. Any suggestions? What power would I need?

- Motherboard and RAM: again, have no real idea of what to pick. I have seen good comments about the Strix. RAM I know DDR5, but not sure what else to look for.

- SSD: the case has space for 2 3.5 and one 2.5 disks. I assume that with the 2TB Samsung Drive I am looking at It would be enough, but any reason why I should buy extra?

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TJf7fv

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($407.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z53 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($219.99 @ Best Buy) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z790-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($489.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($979.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  ($129.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Best Buy) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2852.71

 

 

 

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, pinkybrain said:

The AMD 7900XTX seems like the best option in the range but my concern is if XFX are a good brand to buy. Any alternatives?

XFX are a good brand to buy, actually one of the best for the 7900 xtx

 

3 minutes ago, pinkybrain said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TJf7fv

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($407.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z53 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($219.99 @ Best Buy) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z790-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($489.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($979.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  ($129.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Best Buy) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2852.71

its good but if your just gaming I would go for the 7800X3D 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/KXgLhk

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€464.80 @ Neobyte) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€80.19 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€219.80 @ Neobyte) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€145.80 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€63.49 @ LIFE Informatica) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1090.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  (€169.79 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€189.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€34.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€34.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€34.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€34.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €2563.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-25 11:03 CEST+0200

[PDifolco]

9 minutes ago, pinkybrain said:

Budget (including currency): 2500€ with flexibility

Country: Spain

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming - Apex, RTS, Forza 5, Elite Dangerous

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): first 'serious' gaming PC (current PC is Asus Rog X13 without the external GPU). Have all peripherals, will only be buying new monitor (not in budget).

 

Hi, I am planning on a build of my PC. It will act as my home studio work PC (but all I do is docs, etc so no real need there) but I want to build a good rig for gaming.

 

I already have the case because I love the aesthetics of the Fractal North, rest I haven't purchased. 

 

My parts list is below but I have some doubts:

 

- I want no RGB. Preferably black parts, ideal if they have a brass accent like the case.

- GPU: RTX 4080 seems too expensive for the value (c.1300€ here) and 4090 is out of the question. The AMD 7900XTX seems like the best option in the range but my concern is if XFX are a good brand to buy. Any alternatives?

- CPU cooling. I picked at random. Any recommendations? Liquid or air cooling? Air cooling I am looking at Noctua NHDU12A. On liquid, the Fractal Celsius 28 Dynamic. If liquid, would it work to put the radiator on top of case, plus three intake fans front and one exhaust back?

- PSU: again, chose at random. Any suggestions? What power would I need?

- Motherboard and RAM: again, have no real idea of what to pick. I have seen good comments about the Strix. RAM I know DDR5, but not sure what else to look for.

- SSD: the case has space for 2 3.5 and one 2.5 disks. I assume that with the 2TB Samsung Drive I am looking at It would be enough, but any reason why I should buy extra?

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TJf7fv

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($407.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z53 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($219.99 @ Best Buy) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z790-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($489.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($979.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  ($129.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Best Buy) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua Ax25 chromax 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($34.95 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2852.71

 

 

 

 

That's a lot of wasted money in cooling and expensive board and SSD, you can make the build 300EUR cheaper and get a 4090 in it if youpush budget just over 3050EUR...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€409.90 @ Amazon Espana) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 A-RGB 68.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€138.31 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€263.62 @ Coolmod) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€142.80 @ Amazon Espana) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€119.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Video Card: Palit GameRock OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (€1624.62 @ Coolmod) 
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case  (€169.79 @ Amazon Espana) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2022) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€173.35 @ Amazon Espana) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  (€29.31 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €3071.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-25 11:07 CEST+0200

[bezza...]

how much on fans and a expensive mobo

[pinkybrain]

Thanks!

Good thing these forums exist, that is all very helpful.

So I was spending too much on motherboard - will switch to the Aorus.

Also spending too much on fans - I had seen a lot of reviews raving about the Noctua and how silent they are. That is important to me because this will also be my work pc but it appears they are overspend, even if nice. For now I will use the stock front fans and perhaps buy the Artic P12 (what a price difference!) for exhaust and top.

I think the 4090 is way too expensive, even if a crazy chip.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, pinkybrain said:

I had seen a lot of reviews raving about the Noctua and how silent they are. That is important to me because this will also be my work pc but it appears they are overspend, even if nice. For now I will use the stock front fans and perhaps buy the Artic P12 (what a price difference!) for exhaust and top.

I would get these fans, they have amazing performance and are as quiet as the noctuas Phanteks PH-F120T30 67 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack (PH-F120T30_BG_3P) - PCPartPicker

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€364.50 @ Coolmod) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€58.87 @ LIFE Informatica) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€214.95 @ Amazon Espana) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€150.04 @ Amazon Espana) 
Storage: *Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€119.99 @ Amazon Espana) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1090.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€87.17 @ Coolmod) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€139.97 @ Amazon Espana) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (€93.97 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €2319.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-25 23:45 CEST+0200