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9 hours ago, hawk0innov said:

@Agall

Is the i5-13600K going to offer the same performance in productivity and gaming as the 7700X? Or would it be better to splurge on the 13700K, or just stick to AMD?

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13600k vs 7700x have on par single threaded/gaming performance but the 13600k has about a 20% higher multithread performance. If you're in the tier of a 13600k in CPU consideration and do productivity work, its the best option. 

 

Now regarding the 13700k, we're talking mITX, and you're starting to get into that territory of thermodynamics where mITX starts to become more difficult. I'd say if you're looking around the price of a 13600k for a CPU, then go with that option, otherwise you're best jumping on something less like a Ryzen 7600 or going higher with a 7800x3D/7900x3D. Where the 13600k makes sense since its practically the optimal price/performance in that ~$300 tier, especially for productivity that requires multithreading performance.

Budget (including currency): ~£1500

Country: England 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, CAD, Sim racing (F1 22, Assetto Corsa etc.)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 1440p ultrawide, 110 fps+

 

Pcpartpicker: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKQXxs

Any advice is appreciated. Confused between 7600x and 7700x.

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5 minutes ago, hawk0innov said:

Budget (including currency): ~£1500

Country: England 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, CAD, Sim racing (F1 22, Assetto Corsa etc.)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 1440p ultrawide, 110 fps+

 

Pcpartpicker: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKQXxs

Any advice is appreciated. Confused between 7600x and 7700x.

If you're doing stuff like CAD, you'd probably want the 7700x, if not a 7900 instead. Otherwise if  you're content with a 6c/12t CPU like the 7600x, then so be it.

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42 minutes ago, hawk0innov said:

Budget (including currency): ~£1500

Country: England 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, CAD, Sim racing (F1 22, Assetto Corsa etc.)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 1440p ultrawide, 110 fps+

 

Pcpartpicker: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKQXxs

Any advice is appreciated. Confused between 7600x and 7700x.

Went with intel for the cpu, and upgraded the RAM to 32GB, and then the storage to 2tb. You'll want both of those.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/66wRQ6

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£239.98 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design Lumen S28 V2 78 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£109.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B760I EDGE WIFI Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£205.99 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (£104.08 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£99.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£547.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: SSUPD Meshlicious Mini ITX Tower Case  (£95.00) 
Power Supply: Lian Li SP 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (£102.00) 
£1504.54

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42 minutes ago, GeorgeMKane said:

Went with intel for the cpu, and upgraded the RAM to 32GB, and then the storage to 2tb. You'll want both of those.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/66wRQ6

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£239.98 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design Lumen S28 V2 78 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£109.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B760I EDGE WIFI Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£205.99 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (£104.08 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£99.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£547.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: SSUPD Meshlicious Mini ITX Tower Case  (£95.00) 
Power Supply: Lian Li SP 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (£102.00) 
£1504.54

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X vs Intel Core i5-13500 Benchmark, comparison and differences (cpu-monkey.com)

 

@hawk0innov The 13500 does have better multithreading than the 7600x which you'll need for CAD. Its iGPU with Quicksync can help in some professional applications better than anything the Ryzen 7000 series iGPU can do.

 

The 13600kf/13600k is the next step above, which depending isn't much more. 11% single thread and 26% multithread for ~20% more cost.

 

Intel Core i5-13500 vs Intel Core i5-13600K Benchmark, comparison and differences (cpu-monkey.com)

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8 hours ago, GeorgeMKane said:

Went with intel for the cpu, and upgraded the RAM to 32GB, and then the storage to 2tb. You'll want both of those.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/66wRQ6

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£239.98 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design Lumen S28 V2 78 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£109.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B760I EDGE WIFI Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£205.99 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (£104.08 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£99.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£547.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: SSUPD Meshlicious Mini ITX Tower Case  (£95.00) 
Power Supply: Lian Li SP 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply  (£102.00) 
£1504.54

With blender, nvidia is more like it for OPs needs but yeah i mostly agreed with how you tackle this build.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£365.67 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£44.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B760I EDGE WIFI DDR4 Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£184.70 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£65.48 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£102.86 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (£560.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P200A DRGB Mini ITX Tower Case  (£64.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte AORUS P GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.40 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1478.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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9 hours ago, hawk0innov said:

@Agall

Is the i5-13600K going to offer the same performance in productivity and gaming as the 7700X? Or would it be better to splurge on the 13700K, or just stick to AMD?

@GeorgeMKane

13600k vs 7700x have on par single threaded/gaming performance but the 13600k has about a 20% higher multithread performance. If you're in the tier of a 13600k in CPU consideration and do productivity work, its the best option. 

 

Now regarding the 13700k, we're talking mITX, and you're starting to get into that territory of thermodynamics where mITX starts to become more difficult. I'd say if you're looking around the price of a 13600k for a CPU, then go with that option, otherwise you're best jumping on something less like a Ryzen 7600 or going higher with a 7800x3D/7900x3D. Where the 13600k makes sense since its practically the optimal price/performance in that ~$300 tier, especially for productivity that requires multithreading performance.

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6 minutes ago, hawk0innov said:

Thx so much! Also can you use resistable bar with Intel CPU + and GPU?

Intel 13th gen does support resizable bar. I'm unsure of the default settings, but AM5 had it defaulted to 'auto', so I imagine Intel has done the same. If not, then its usually a simple toggle in the UEFI to enable it.

 

I remember something with HWUB and having Intel 13th gen with resizable bar enabled by default if any.

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So they is no benefit using AMD CPU and GPU together?

 

13 hours ago, Agall said:

Intel 13th gen does support resizable bar. I'm unsure of the default settings, but AM5 had it defaulted to 'auto', so I imagine Intel has done the same. If not, then its usually a simple toggle in the UEFI to enable it.

 

I remember something with HWUB and having Intel 13th gen with resizable bar enabled by default if any.

 

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