New PC Build

[Netrino]

Hi guys,

i am planing to build a new PC as my current one is about 7 years old and will keep it as secondary or at the living room. I have been looking around for the parts for some time and simply i was overwhelmed from the options and info, simply gave up and was thinking to buy a pre build and be done with it but my conscious will not allow that and so i thought to ask for help here.

 

Budget (including currency):

1,500 to 2,000 €

 

Country:

Germany

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

I can not exactly say what games but for sure i would like to dive in on some games without having lagging issues with that being said i do not aim to keep the settings at Ultra High! It would be nice but lets keep it real

As for workloads just normal stuff but again it would be nice to have a system that will not lag if i want for example to learn Photoshop and so on.

As a result i guess a combination of working/gaming build if that is even possible.

 

Other details:

I want to place the weight of the budget at the CPU-MOBO-RAM-Storage and so  as i can always upgrade the GPU at a later time.

For the monitor i was thinking a curved single monitor.

Peripherals will be needed too (not to be included at the current budget as i will upgrade them later on).

For the Case Air flow is the most interesting part for me here.

RGB stuff not needed not wanted

 

As until now i always had Intel i am fixed on going for an AMD build.

 

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

Many Thanks

[SorryBella]

6 minutes ago, Netrino said:

and will keep it as secondary or at the living room

With its storage and RAM taken? I did the former and it saved me for bulk storage, just replacing it with a basic 480GB SSD and 8GB of ram for HTPC purpose. Tell us the old PC spec to see what we can throw together and salvage from it for the new build.

[Netrino]

Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit

 

CPU
Intel Core i5 6600 @ 3.30GHz
Skylake 14nm Technology

 

RAM
8.00GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)

 

Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. H110M-S2H-CF (U3E1)

 

Graphics
ASUS VX279 (1920x1080@60Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (MSI)

 

Storage
223GB OCZ-TRION100 (SATA (SSD))
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-00WN4A0 (SATA )

Netrino Old PC.txt

[PC HEROES]

8 hours ago, Netrino said:

Hi guys,

i am planing to build a new PC as my current one is about 7 years old and will keep it as secondary or at the living room. I have been looking around for the parts for some time and simply i was overwhelmed from the options and info, simply gave up and was thinking to buy a pre build and be done with it but my conscious will not allow that and so i thought to ask for help here.

 

Budget (including currency):

1,500 to 2,000 €

 

Country:

Germany

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

I can not exactly say what games but for sure i would like to dive in on some games without having lagging issues with that being said i do not aim to keep the settings at Ultra High! It would be nice but lets keep it real

As for workloads just normal stuff but again it would be nice to have a system that will not lag if i want for example to learn Photoshop and so on.

As a result i guess a combination of working/gaming build if that is even possible.

 

Other details:

I want to place the weight of the budget at the CPU-MOBO-RAM-Storage and so  as i can always upgrade the GPU at a later time.

For the monitor i was thinking a curved single monitor.

Peripherals will be needed too (not to be included at the current budget as i will upgrade them later on).

For the Case Air flow is the most interesting part for me here.

RGB stuff not needed not wanted

 

As until now i always had Intel i am fixed on going for an AMD build.

 

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

Many Thanks

This build I have here for you is a significant upgrade to what you already have and it will be TONS faster too. I was able to give you 2 M.2 storage drives, a 500GB w/ 1GB DRAM Cache and a 1TB w/ 1GB DRAM Cache to load your games and programs with Lightning Fast Speeds. The 500GB is for your Windows Install and the other is for your games and other large files. You can always add more storage later if you need to. The Video Card I picked will allow you to play any game you want at the highest settings. I was also able to throw in a Curved Monitor for you. If you decide to go with my build them please mark this as the solution, Thanks in advance.

 

I made sure that all the parts are coming from Amazon to make it easier for you and NO RGB is in the build except what the Motherboard has, it's really hard to find one without it these days.

 

I have been building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please let me know.

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/jrz86r

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€320.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€45.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570S AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€254.45 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (€89.78 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€54.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€79.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 319 CORE Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€579.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€138.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (€22.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (€22.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: ViewSonic VX2718-2KPC-MHD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor  (€229.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1927.14

[Why_Me]

11 hours ago, Netrino said:

Hi guys,

i am planing to build a new PC as my current one is about 7 years old and will keep it as secondary or at the living room. I have been looking around for the parts for some time and simply i was overwhelmed from the options and info, simply gave up and was thinking to buy a pre build and be done with it but my conscious will not allow that and so i thought to ask for help here.

 

Budget (including currency):

1,500 to 2,000 €

 

Country:

Germany

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

I can not exactly say what games but for sure i would like to dive in on some games without having lagging issues with that being said i do not aim to keep the settings at Ultra High! It would be nice but lets keep it real

As for workloads just normal stuff but again it would be nice to have a system that will not lag if i want for example to learn Photoshop and so on.

As a result i guess a combination of working/gaming build if that is even possible.

 

Other details:

I want to place the weight of the budget at the CPU-MOBO-RAM-Storage and so  as i can always upgrade the GPU at a later time.

For the monitor i was thinking a curved single monitor.

Peripherals will be needed too (not to be included at the current budget as i will upgrade them later on).

For the Case Air flow is the most interesting part for me here.

RGB stuff not needed not wanted

 

As until now i always had Intel i am fixed on going for an AMD build.

 

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

Many Thanks

This case down below features 2x140mm front intake fans + 1x120mm rear exhaust fan. 

 

https://geizhals.de/   <--- run these components on that site to check for better prices.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€254.89 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (€32.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€148.74 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€113.99 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€644.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€74.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: *NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€132.80 @ Galaxus) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (€93.97 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€5.37 @ Aquatuning) 
Monitor: *Asus TUF GAMING VG24VQR 23.6" 1920 x 1080 165 Hz Curved Monitor  (€181.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €1753.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-12 02:01 CEST+0200

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/G24F-2#kf

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/ 

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-WIFI-DDR4 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230580/intel-core-i513500-processor-24m-cache-up-to-4-80-ghz/specifications.html

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK400-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2021/15222.shtml

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD#kf 

 

https://www.asus.com/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg24vqr/

[GeorgeMKane]

10 hours ago, Netrino said:

Hi guys,

i am planing to build a new PC as my current one is about 7 years old and will keep it as secondary or at the living room. I have been looking around for the parts for some time and simply i was overwhelmed from the options and info, simply gave up and was thinking to buy a pre build and be done with it but my conscious will not allow that and so i thought to ask for help here.

 

Budget (including currency):

1,500 to 2,000 €

 

Country:

Germany

 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

I can not exactly say what games but for sure i would like to dive in on some games without having lagging issues with that being said i do not aim to keep the settings at Ultra High! It would be nice but lets keep it real

As for workloads just normal stuff but again it would be nice to have a system that will not lag if i want for example to learn Photoshop and so on.

As a result i guess a combination of working/gaming build if that is even possible.

 

Other details:

I want to place the weight of the budget at the CPU-MOBO-RAM-Storage and so  as i can always upgrade the GPU at a later time.

For the monitor i was thinking a curved single monitor.

Peripherals will be needed too (not to be included at the current budget as i will upgrade them later on).

For the Case Air flow is the most interesting part for me here.

RGB stuff not needed not wanted

 

As until now i always had Intel i am fixed on going for an AMD build.

 

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

Many Thanks

Easily recommend 2tb of storage, because you'll be doing photo (and possibly video editing) on top of gaming.

 

Now for the gpu, you can always go for the newest, or you can go for something smaller. I chose the 4070 so you wouldn't even have to worry about upgrading anything for quite some time. Also, a DDR5 motherboard and RAM didn't work with the budget well, so I went DDR4, which is still really nice.

 

For the cpu, you can go for the i5-13500 to save some money, but the i5-13600KF will have a higher base clock speed, which will help you now and in the long run from having to upgrade that sooner too.

 

1440p monitor is also where it's at. Went with ASUS, but if you find one for cheaper that you like, then go for it for sure. Just make sure it's not a TN panel.

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/KgznY9

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€309.89 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler  (€89.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€175.64 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€124.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€644.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  (€88.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€149.90 @ Alza) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  (€319.00 @ Alza) 
€1971.13

[Netrino]

Thank you all for your time and effort for the suggested builds, after checking them i ended up going with the AMD build that @PC HEROES is suggesting.

[Netrino]

14 hours ago, PC HEROES said:

This build I have here for you is a significant upgrade to what you already have and it will be TONS faster too. I was able to give you 2 M.2 storage drives, a 500GB w/ 1GB DRAM Cache and a 1TB w/ 1GB DRAM Cache to load your games and programs with Lightning Fast Speeds. The 500GB is for your Windows Install and the other is for your games and other large files. You can always add more storage later if you need to. The Video Card I picked will allow you to play any game you want at the highest settings. I was also able to throw in a Curved Monitor for you. If you decide to go with my build them please mark this as the solution, Thanks in advance.

 

I made sure that all the parts are coming from Amazon to make it easier for you and NO RGB is in the build except what the Motherboard has, it's really hard to find one without it these days.

 

I have been building PCs for 30 years so if you have any questions please let me know.

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/jrz86r

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€320.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€45.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570S AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€254.45 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (€89.78 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€54.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€79.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 319 CORE Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€579.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€138.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (€22.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case Fan: ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  (€22.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor: ViewSonic VX2718-2KPC-MHD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor  (€229.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1927.14

 

from what i am reading the CPU is a very decent one just that it goes a bit high at temps, would it be better to go for an other CPU Cooler? if you think it is actually the case any suggestions for that?

 

For the Monitor as i have a 27" i was thinking for a bigger one, any suggestions?

 

Cheers

[PC HEROES]

12 minutes ago, Netrino said:

 

from what i am reading the CPU is a very decent one just that it goes a bit high at temps, would it be better to go for an other CPU Cooler? if you think it is actually the case any suggestions for that?

 

For the Monitor as i have a 27" i was thinking for a bigger one, any suggestions?

 

Cheers

The Thermalright CPU Cooler that I picked actually competes with the best Noctua Coolers and some say that they even out perform them by a small margin. The only Cooling solution that could be better is an AIO Water Cooler or a Custom Loop. I don't do Custom Loops as they are very hard to do, time consuming, and hard to configure the right parts for.

 

They don't really have too many options right now in Germany for larger Monitors I was able to find 1, a 32" link below.

 

ViewSonic VX3268-2KPC-MHD 32.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor €477.00

[Netrino]

On 5/12/2023 at 1:39 PM, PC HEROES said:

The Thermalright CPU Cooler that I picked actually competes with the best Noctua Coolers and some say that they even out perform them by a small margin. The only Cooling solution that could be better is an AIO Water Cooler or a Custom Loop. I don't do Custom Loops as they are very hard to do, time consuming, and hard to configure the right parts for.

 

They don't really have too many options right now in Germany for larger Monitors I was able to find 1, a 32" link below.

 

ViewSonic VX3268-2KPC-MHD 32.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor €477.00

So i placed the order for the parts most of them will be arriving this week except a few:

 

CPU Cooler https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se is temporarily out of stock, i checked  some sites but no luck so i went for the NZXT Kraken 240 - 240mm AIO CPU Water Cooler

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0BNYQJJLV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is this going to be a good choice? If not any other suggestions?

 

GPU https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/vKZ9TW/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-speedster-merc-319-core-video-card-rx-68xtalfd9 will be arriving at the end of the other week so if there are some alternatives with the hope that i could have it on sooner date would be nice.

 

Monitor https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/7xzFf7/viewsonic-vx3268-2kpc-mhd-320-2560x1440-144-hz-curved-monitor-vx3268-2kpc-mhd unfortunately will be arriving 17 of June, that is a bit long wait considering that i am a bit hyped at the moment, maybe any other suggestions here?

 

Cheers

[PC HEROES]

40 minutes ago, Netrino said:

So i placed the order for the parts most of them will be arriving this week except a few:

 

CPU Cooler https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se is temporarily out of stock, i checked  some sites but no luck so i went for the NZXT Kraken 240 - 240mm AIO CPU Water Cooler

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0BNYQJJLV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is this going to be a good choice? If not any other suggestions?

 

GPU https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/vKZ9TW/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-speedster-merc-319-core-video-card-rx-68xtalfd9 will be arriving at the end of the other week so if there are some alternatives with the hope that i could have it on sooner date would be nice.

 

Monitor https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/7xzFf7/viewsonic-vx3268-2kpc-mhd-320-2560x1440-144-hz-curved-monitor-vx3268-2kpc-mhd unfortunately will be arriving 17 of June, that is a bit long wait considering that i am a bit hyped at the moment, maybe any other suggestions here?

 

Cheers

The NZXT AIO is good. I can't say anything against it. If you see temps above 80 degrees then I would consider a 360mm AIO or the Thermalright Air Cooler I recommended. Do you have PRIME shipping in Germany?

 

There are some other sites you might be able to get these items from, here are some links to 2 different GPUs and 2 Monitors. I can't read German and the translator isn't working do I can't tell when these items will ship so you might have to do a bit of looking on your own to see which ones will get to you quicker. I will list the cheapest prices at the time of this writing.

 

PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT $567.99

 

XFX Speedster MERC 319 CORE Radeon RX 6800 XT $579.00

 

Asus TUF Gaming VG32VQR 31.5" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor $326.94

 

Gigabyte G27QC A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor $269.00

 

 

[Netrino]

9 hours ago, PC HEROES said:

The NZXT AIO is good. I can't say anything against it. If you see temps above 80 degrees then I would consider a 360mm AIO or the Thermalright Air Cooler I recommended. Do you have PRIME shipping in Germany?

 

There are some other sites you might be able to get these items from, here are some links to 2 different GPUs and 2 Monitors. I can't read German and the translator isn't working do I can't tell when these items will ship so you might have to do a bit of looking on your own to see which ones will get to you quicker. I will list the cheapest prices at the time of this writing.

 

PowerColor Red Dragon OC Radeon RX 6800 XT $567.99

 

XFX Speedster MERC 319 CORE Radeon RX 6800 XT $579.00

 

Asus TUF Gaming VG32VQR 31.5" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor $326.94

 

Gigabyte G27QC A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor $269.00

 

 

Good to hear that for the NZXT, if the temps are high i will definitely switch to the other options.

I have PRIME but the monitor was shipped from a third party seller it seems, i cancelled the order and went for the Asus TUF Gaming VG32VQR 31.5" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor which it will arrive the next days, probably the ViewSonic will arrive too as i did the cancellation a bit late and amazon is contacting the seller for the cancellation. No harm, i will try both monitors keep the one that i like most and send back the other one

 

Cheers

[PC HEROES]

14 hours ago, Netrino said:

Good to hear that for the NZXT, if the temps are high i will definitely switch to the other options.

I have PRIME but the monitor was shipped from a third party seller it seems, i cancelled the order and went for the Asus TUF Gaming VG32VQR 31.5" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor which it will arrive the next days, probably the ViewSonic will arrive too as i did the cancellation a bit late and amazon is contacting the seller for the cancellation. No harm, i will try both monitors keep the one that i like most and send back the other one

 

Cheers

The ASUS Monitor will definitely be better. I love the ASUS TUF Series. It's like getting the upper tier of Mid-Range Parts for budget level pricing if you can understand that. Maybe a different analogy, think of the TUF Series as a Ruby or Sapphire as Mid-Range items, a Diamond as High-End, and a Quartz at budget Low-End. You are basically getting the Ruby or Sapphire for the price of the Quartz.

 

I hope it turns out really nice for you. Please DM me some pics of the PC when it's done, I would love to see some.