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[noodles98]

Budget (including currency): $1500-1800 USD 

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Flight and Racing Simulator Games, Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom, Possibly some AAA games (new to games at the moment)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

This is my current build that was picked out by a friend. Some parts are already purchased/owned. I am looking at a resolution of 1440p or very high 1080p should work fine for me. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FcMVMb (Note: parts that are already purchased are the 2 SSDs, Corsair PC case, and RAM - though the RAM can still be returned)

 

Thanks in advance for the advice! 

 

[N0l1ge]

Hi,

which parts are already bought?

It would really help to know that:o

best regards

[Dedayog]

30 minutes ago, noodles98 said:

Budget (including currency): $1500-1800 USD 

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Flight and Racing Simulator Games, Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom, Possibly some AAA games (new to games at the moment)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

This is my current build that was picked out by a friend. Some parts are already purchased/owned. I am looking at a resolution of 1440p or very high 1080p should work fine for me. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FcMVMb

 

Thanks in advance for the advice! 

 

Do you live by a Microcenter?  If so, they have some deals going on.

 

You can get a 6950XT for $619 as well...

 

ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 6950 XT Video Card RX6950XT PG 16GO - Newegg.com

 

I'd tweak a few things, but it's the right idea.  I'd get more SSD, better cooler (unleashes the 7700x a bit more), and probably a little tighter RAM timings if I had to be picky.

 

[noodles98]

10 minutes ago, N0l1ge said:

Hi,

which parts are already bought?

It would really help to know that:o

best regards

Hi, The parts that are bought are the SSDs (SATA and NVMe) and the Corsair Case. I just recently purchased the RAM ($99.99), but I can still return it.

[noodles98]

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Do you live by a Microcenter?  If so, they have some deals going on.

 

You can get a 6950XT for $619 as well...

 

ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 6950 XT Video Card RX6950XT PG 16GO - Newegg.com

 

I'd tweak a few things, but it's the right idea.  I'd get more SSD, better cooler (unleashes the 7700x a bit more), and probably a little tighter RAM timings if I had to be picky.

 

Unfortunately, I do not have a Microcenter close by. 

 

For the cooler, I know there's the Deepcool AK620. Would that be sufficient or are there any recommendations? 

[Dedayog]

23 minutes ago, noodles98 said:

Unfortunately, I do not have a Microcenter close by. 

 

For the cooler, I know there's the Deepcool AK620. Would that be sufficient or are there any recommendations? 

The AK620 is what I would go with for air at that price/performance.  I went 360mm AIO and still hit 90c+ before PBO undervolting.  They run hot, or rather they run and run until temp stops them.  Keeping the temps down lets them run faster.

 

The 7700x + 6950XT is a fantastic combo, especially for that $620 price on the 6950XT.  Will let you run high fps 1440p.

[Why_Me]

1 hour ago, noodles98 said:

Budget (including currency): $1500-1800 USD 

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Flight and Racing Simulator Games, Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom, Possibly some AAA games (new to games at the moment)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

This is my current build that was picked out by a friend. Some parts are already purchased/owned. I am looking at a resolution of 1440p or very high 1080p should work fine for me. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FcMVMb (Note: parts that are already purchased are the 2 SSDs, Corsair PC case, and RAM - though the RAM can still be returned)

 

Thanks in advance for the advice! 

 

Your choice of RAM is going to hurt you seeing how it's high latency RE CL40.

 

RAM

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x4VmP6/gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-rs5k 

 

CPU

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dXmmP6/amd-ryzen-7-7700-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000592box 

 

PSU 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8z7p99/super-flower-leadex-iii-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14hg 

[noodles98]

45 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

Your choice of RAM is going to hurt you seeing how it's high latency RE CL40.

 

RAM

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x4VmP6/gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3040f16gx2-rs5k 

 

CPU

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dXmmP6/amd-ryzen-7-7700-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000592box 

 

PSU 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8z7p99/super-flower-leadex-iii-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14hg 

I looked back at my original purchase from Amazon. This is the RAM I bought (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B771BL4S?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1) which I believe is CL 36. I'm unfamiliar with those terms, could you give a quick TLDR about them?

 

Regarding the CPU why do you recommend the 7700 instead of the 7700x? 

 

As for the PSU, aside from price, is there any benefit between the super flower PSU you suggested? 

[Why_Me]

3 minutes ago, noodles98 said:

I looked back at my original purchase from Amazon. This is the RAM I bought (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B771BL4S?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1) which I believe is CL 36. I'm unfamiliar with those terms, could you give a quick TLDR about them?

 

Regarding the CPU why do you recommend the 7700 instead of the 7700x? 

 

As for the PSU, aside from price, is there any benefit between the super flower PSU you suggested? 

CL36 is better than CL40 and CL30 is better than both.

The 7700 runs cooler while netting similar results.

The PSU is all about price as in saving a few bucks.

[SorryBella]

28 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

CL36 is better than CL40 and CL30 is better than both.

The 7700 runs cooler while netting similar results.

The PSU is all about price as in saving a few bucks.

To expand:

1. AMD CPU architecture as it goes right now heavily favors access time of the RAM, and this is commonly expressed within CAS Latency which is the RAM timing. This means that lower the CL number, generally the better. But of course we havent addressed the nerdy stuff that would make that statement sometimes better like subtimings.
2. 7700 non X variants cuts the Extended Frequency Range instruction which unlocks all of Ryzen power budget at boost till the cooler or motherboard is overwhelmed. This is amazing for stock operation but they legitimately run super hot as a result. And all that for performance and temperatures that are inferior to hand tuning it.

[Why_Me]

15 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

To expand:

1. AMD CPU architecture as it goes right now heavily favors access time of the RAM, and this is commonly expressed within CAS Latency which is the RAM timing. This means that lower the CL number, generally the better. But of course we havent addressed the nerdy stuff that would make that statement sometimes better like subtimings.
2. 7700 non X variants cuts the Extended Frequency Range instruction which unlocks all of Ryzen power budget at boost till the cooler or motherboard is overwhelmed. This is amazing for stock operation but they legitimately run super hot as a result. And all that for performance and temperatures that are inferior to hand tuning it.

I stopped watching when he compared the i5 13600 to the i5 13600K.  He's either clueless or being disingenuous because anyone with a clue knows the 13600 is built upon the 12 gen Alder Lake platform.

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230574/intel-core-i513600-processor-24m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz/specifications.html 

Memory Types: Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230493/intel-core-i513600k-processor-24m-cache-up-to-5-10-ghz/specifications.html 

Memory Types: Up to DDR5 5600 MT/s

[noodles98]

47 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

To expand:

1. AMD CPU architecture as it goes right now heavily favors access time of the RAM, and this is commonly expressed within CAS Latency which is the RAM timing. This means that lower the CL number, generally the better. But of course we havent addressed the nerdy stuff that would make that statement sometimes better like subtimings.
2. 7700 non X variants cuts the Extended Frequency Range instruction which unlocks all of Ryzen power budget at boost till the cooler or motherboard is overwhelmed. This is amazing for stock operation but they legitimately run super hot as a result. And all that for performance and temperatures that are inferior to hand tuning it.

So bringing back what was being said in this video. If I choose the 7700, it comes with a stock cooler already. Do you think it's necessary to buy a separate one or use the stock? 

[SorryBella]

45 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

He's either clueless or being disingenuous because anyone with a clue knows the 13600 is built upon the 12 gen Alder Lake platform.

What? It is Raptor Lake, the rated speed in ARK is the limit for non XMP operation because that is overclocking, and K sku does have higher stock ram speed.

[Why_Me]

3 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

What? It is Raptor Lake, the rated speed in ARK is the limit for non XMP operation because that is overclocking, and K sku does have higher stock ram speed.

The 13600, 13500 and 13400 / 13400F are all built upon Alder Lake tech hence the reason those cpu's nativily support DDR5 4800 and not DDR5 5600. All intel did was add a few e-cores along with some extra cache to those cpu's and rebadged them as Raptor Lake.

 

[noodles98]

6 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Do you live by a Microcenter?  If so, they have some deals going on.

 

You can get a 6950XT for $619 as well...

 

ASRock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX 6950 XT Video Card RX6950XT PG 16GO - Newegg.com

 

I'd tweak a few things, but it's the right idea.  I'd get more SSD, better cooler (unleashes the 7700x a bit more), and probably a little tighter RAM timings if I had to be picky.

 

If I decide to switch the cpu to 7700, would the 6950xt still be a good choice?

[Dedayog]

9 hours ago, noodles98 said:

If I decide to switch the cpu to 7700, would the 6950xt still be a good choice?

Yes, since you're going 1440p.   Especially since you were going to spend $600 on a GPU, get the best one you can.  I have a 7700x and a 6900xt, for comparison.

 

The 7700 will perform almost like the 7700x, so that's a wash.  I'd pay the extra $25 for the x but that is your call, I don't have experience with the non-x version and I know the 7700x is a very solid performer.

 

I paid $629 for my 6900xt, I would gladly pay $619 for the 6950xt.