Upgrade CPU or GPU first?

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Bismut said:

Where did you get that info? Recommended PSUs are like TDP, they give you a vague idea and that is it.
I would look at actual power draw instead, GN tests for it and so do others

about 50w lower than the 3080 and only a bit more on oc 

[Makkendam]

Just now, Bismut said:

You should go for Platinum if you use your PC a lot, but it would have to be ~8h/day at a high load to be remotely worth it, I would just stick to Gold.

my PC is on for 12 hours a day, but only at high load for maybe 2 or 3 of that. When I have/decide to buy a new PSU, pricing will probably be the deciding factor between gold or platinum. I'd have to do a quick TCO analysis over 5 or 6 years.

[filpo]

Just now, Makkendam said:

my PC is on for 12 hours a day, but only at high load for maybe 2 or 3 of that. When I have/decide to buy a new PSU, pricing will probably be the deciding factor between gold or platinum. I'd have to do a quick TCO analysis over 5 or 6 years.

an 850 GQ is about 150 euros EVGA 850 GQ 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (210-GQ-0850) - PCPartPicker

[Bismut]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

only a bit more on oc

About 50W (1/6th of its regular power draw) is not nothing. OCing is not worth it unless you have cheap power

 

Just now, Makkendam said:

my PC is on for 12 hours a day, but only at high load for maybe 2 or 3 of that. When I have/decide to buy a new PSU, pricing will probably be the deciding factor between gold or platinum. I'd have to do a quick TCO analysis over 5 or 6 years.

Oh boy, get one with high low load efficiency then. The RMx (2021) series is supposed to be really good there, I would grab one of those

[SorryBella]

27 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

ASUS PRIME B350M-A, budget mobo. I'm at 1440p

Yeah i wouldnt go for 5800X3D due to power throttle concern on that board but even 5600X is still decent enough for 1440p. That would leave you with enough money to spend on an RTX 4070 which while is 84 euros more expensive than an RX 6800XT, but itll save you the 93-100 euros expense of having to upgrade your PSU to a 750W unit.

[Bismut]

Just now, filpo said:

an 850 GQ is about 150 euros EVGA 850 GQ 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (210-GQ-0850) - PCPartPicker

And only mid-tier, according to cultists. The Corsair RMx ones are High-End and really efficient at low load

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, Bismut said:

About 50W (1/6th of its regular power draw) is not nothing. OCing is not worth it unless you have cheap power

ye ik. the oc only cost about 4 watts over the stock 3080. I was talking about stock 6800 xt compared to the stock 3080 which had a 50w lower power draw

[Bismut]

Just now, filpo said:

ye ik. the oc only cost about 4 watts. I was talking about stock 6800 xt compared to the stock 3080 which had a 50w lower power draw

What? The graph says otherwise, the 3080 pulls about 18W more

[filpo]

Just now, Bismut said:

What? The graph says otherwise, the 3080 pulls about 18W more

ye ik. Am i right in saying we are both in favour of the 6800 xt and not the 3080 and that this was a misunderstanding? 

[Bismut]

Just now, filpo said:

ye ik. Am i right in saying we are both in favour of the 6800 xt and not the 3080 and that this was a misunderstanding? 

I think so, although I would go for a theoretical 7600XT if power draw is a concern. Undervolting might be a good route to go down too, I use about 40W less under full load while getting more performance, which is wild to me. I might have a golden sample though, and it is a 1600AF being compared against a 1600 at stock speeds.

[PDifolco]

41 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

Budget (including currency): 700 EUR

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Overwatch 2, PUBG

Other details Current spec: GTX 1070ti, Ryzen 5 1600, 2x8GB 2666 DDR4, 550W PSU, B350M-A mobo, i play at 1440p

 

Hi guys, I don't currently have the budget for a completely new build, so I'm wondering whether my money is best spent on a GPU or platform upgrade right now.

My initial thinking was that since the games I play are not that graphically intensive, it would be best to upgrade to something like a 7600x with a decently fast kit of DDR5, and uprade my GPU down the line when prices come down or 4060 is magically a good value. What are your thoughts? Thanks!

 

Weakest part is CPU, but 1440p mostly need GPU power

Thus I'd get a Ryzen 5600 (150EUR) that will reduce bottleneck to acceptable levels at 1440p, and a 550EUR GPU => 6800 or 6800XT if you can spare a bit more cash, that's  200%+ performance vs a 1070ti 

 

Et voilà ami belge  

 

[filpo]

7 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

200%+ performance

thats nearly how much adrenaline Linus got after eating that goat

 

[Bob__]

1 hour ago, Bismut said:

You can significantly cut down a lot of links' length, these should work too:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374647012382

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304466356033

ok thanks I had no idea

[Bob__]

52 minutes ago, filpo said:

an 850 GQ is about 150 euros EVGA 850 GQ 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (210-GQ-0850) - PCPartPicker

I got a 1000 G6 from them for like 140 maybe wait until the price goes down?

[Bismut]

5 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

ok thanks I had no idea

Barely anyone knows, I just get annoyed when I send them and my whole text window is clogged up. I wish there was an extension or setting to shorten them

 

4 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

I got a 1000 G6 from them for like 140 maybe wait until the price goes down?

@Makkendamhow much wattage do you need? I would personally spec 600W or so for a Ryzen 5 and a 300-ish Watt GPU like a 3080 or 6800XT, but everyone else will tell you to go higher

[filpo]

9 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

I got a 1000 G6 from them for like 140 maybe wait until the price goes down?

Ye good point they go for discount on Amazon a lot. I got my rm850 for only 85 pounds on discount from Amazon 

[Bob__]

49 minutes ago, filpo said:

Ye good point they go for discount on Amazon a lot. I got my rm850 for only 85 pounds on discount from Amazon 

yeah i got mine from amazon too but for 140 USD

[spaghet rat]

2 hours ago, Makkendam said:

I myself am hesitant towards AMD GPU's because of power draw. My electricity cost right now is €0.45/kWh

nothing draws more power than 30 or 40 series nvida gpus lmao 6800 and 6900xt are the best non rt gpus (except maybe 7900 st and xtx)and 850 w gold psus arent too expensive

[filpo]

2 hours ago, spaghet rat said:

40 series nvida gpus

That’s not true for the 40 series since they physically made the die smaller and made the pcb smaller too