Upgrade CPU or GPU first?

[Makkendam]

Budget (including currency): 700 EUR

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Overwatch 2, PUBG

Other details Current spec: GTX 1070ti, Ryzen 5 1600, 2x8GB 2666 DDR4, 550W PSU, B350M-A mobo, i play at 1440p

 

Hi guys, I don't currently have the budget for a completely new build, so I'm wondering whether my money is best spent on a GPU or platform upgrade right now.

My initial thinking was that since the games I play are not that graphically intensive, it would be best to upgrade to something like a 7600x with a decently fast kit of DDR5, and uprade my GPU down the line when prices come down or 4060 is magically a good value. What are your thoughts? Thanks!

 

[SorryBella]

3 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

Other details Current spec: GTX 1070ti, Ryzen 5 1600, 2x8GB 2666 DDR4, 550W PSU

whats your current motherboard in specific? Itll be fine to stick to AM4 for now even for 1080p.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

Country: BE

is that belgium?

2 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

Hi guys, I don't currently have the budget for a completely new build, so I'm wondering whether my money is best spent on a GPU or platform upgrade right now.

My initial thinking was that since the games I play are not that graphically intensive, it would be best to upgrade to something like a 7600x with a decently fast kit of DDR5, and uprade my GPU down the line when prices come down or 4060 is magically a good value. What are your thoughts? Thanks!

I would upgrade your cpu, mobo and ram to ryzen 5000 with a 5800x3d, b550 tomahawk max and vengeance lpx 2x8 3200mhz. And also a new cooler while your at it 

PCPP list: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/6LyQY9

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

5 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

Budget (including currency): 700 EUR

Country: BE

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Overwatch 2, PUBG

Other details Current spec: GTX 1070ti, Ryzen 5 1600, 2x8GB 2666 DDR4, 550W PSU

 

Hi guys, I don't currently have the budget for a completely new build, so I'm wondering whether my money is best spent on a GPU or platform upgrade right now.

My initial thinking was that since the games I play are not that graphically intensive, it would be best to upgrade to something like a 7600x with a decently fast kit of DDR5, and uprade my GPU down the line when prices come down or 4060 is magically a good value. What are your thoughts? Thanks!

 

I would just save up longer and do a fresh whole new build later this year. Whatever you don't upgrade will be severely bottlenecked.

[Makkendam]

2 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

whats your current motherboard in specific? Itll be fine to stick to AM4 for now even for 1080p.

ASUS PRIME B350M-A, budget mobo. I'm at 1440p

[Makkendam]

4 minutes ago, filpo said:

is that belgium?

I would upgrade your cpu, mobo and ram to ryzen 5000 with a 5800x3d, b550 tomahawk max and vengeance lpx 2x8 3200mhz. And also a new cooler while your at it 

PCPP list: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/6LyQY9

yes, Belgium.

 

Why would you recommend the 5800x3d? Spending that much to replace AM4 with AM4 and DDR4 with DDR4 doesn't *feel* worth it, but maybe my intuition is off.

[Bismut]

5 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

Why would you recommend the 5800x3d? Spending that much to replace AM4 with AM4 and DDR4 with DDR4 doesn't *feel* worth it, but maybe my intuition is off.

The 5800X3D is a gaming beast, competing with the 7950X3D in some games. It is a drop-in upgrade for you (if you motherboard supports it) but will boost performance immensely. Buying faster RAM does not makes sense IMHO, neither does a new motherboard if your old one supports the 5800X3D.

 

9 minutes ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

I would just save up longer and do a fresh whole new build later this year.

Do this if your MoBo does not support the 5800X3D


And just to check: Your current system is not performing well in the things you do with it? You are only wasting money if you upgrade a rig that works perfectly fine.

Edited April 21, 2023 by Bismut
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[Bob__]

11 minutes ago, filpo said:

I would upgrade your cpu, mobo and ram to ryzen 5000 with a 5800x3d, b550 tomahawk max and vengeance lpx 2x8 3200mhz. And also a new cooler while your at it 

 

dont think that the OP has the budget for that

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

yes, Belgium.

 

Why would you recommend the 5800x3d? Spending that much to replace AM4 with AM4 and DDR4 with DDR4 doesn't *feel* worth it, but maybe my intuition is off.

well its a 5800x3d, best am4 gaming cpu. Also it likes to be fed by faster RAM (3200mhz) and the mobo is for the power delivery since yours can't handle it (you said it yourself that it was budget) and the cooler just as a placeholder since I didn't know what coole you have

[filpo]

Just now, Bob__ said:

dont think that the OP has the budget for that

 

16 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

Budget (including currency): 700 EUR

well they do

[Bob__]

Just now, filpo said:

 

well they do

oh ok then with that kinda budget he can get a 5800x3d and also a second hand 30 series

[Bob__]

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[Makkendam]

1 minute ago, Bob__ said:

oh ok then with that kinda budget he can get a 5800x3d and also a second hand 30 series

Truth be told I have the budget for a full new build, but some private reasons might make it an irresponsible spend which is why I was contemplating upgrading either gpu or cpu(+mobo/ram).

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Bob__ said:

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i'm sorry why shouldn't he just get a new 6800? or 6800 xt?

[filpo]

Just now, Makkendam said:

Truth be told I have the budget for a full new build, but some private reasons might make it an irresponsible spend which is why I was contemplating upgrading either gpu or cpu(+mobo/ram).

i would suggest you go with the cpu, mobo and ram combo since if you get a better gpu itll just be bottlenecked

[Makkendam]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

i'm sorry why shouldn't he just get a new 6800? or 6800 xt?

I myself am hesitant towards AMD GPU's because of power draw. My electricity cost right now is €0.45/kWh

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Makkendam said:

I myself am hesitant towards AMD GPU's because of power draw. My electricity cost right now is €0.45/kWh

well a 3080 wouldn't be better. In fact it would be worse

[Bismut]

1 minute ago, Bob__ said:

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You can significantly cut down a lot of links' length, these should work too:

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Just now, Makkendam said:

Truth be told I have the budget for a full new build, but some private reasons might make it an irresponsible spend which is why I was contemplating upgrading either gpu or cpu(+mobo/ram).

I know that one, I would recommend just going for the 5800X3D and a used 6800XT, 20/30 Series or so then

 

Just now, Makkendam said:

I myself am hesitant towards AMD GPU's because of power draw. My electricity cost right now is €0.45/kWh

Yup, same. NVIDIAs new stuff is pretty bad too, you could stick it out until the new "budget" cards release since their power draw should be lower

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Bismut said:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374647012382

wouldn't a 3080 be worse for power draw and performance than a 6800 xt or 6800

3080 recommended psu:

6800 recommended psu:

Edited April 21, 2023 by filpo

[Makkendam]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

well a 3080 wouldn't be better. In fact it would be worse

but a 4070 would be much better

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Makkendam said:

but a 4070 would be much better

if you wanna spend for it then go for it. They have reined in the power draw this gen

[Bismut]

26 minutes ago, Makkendam said:

550W PSU

What PSU is it exactly? Upgrading to a more efficient one might be worth it, for example the Corsair RM650X (2021). Gives you more headroom for future GPU upgrades as well, if you want to draw that much power that is...

[Makkendam]

Just now, Bismut said:

What PSU is it exactly? Upgrading to a more efficient one might be worth it, for example the Corsair RM650X (2021). Gives you more headroom for future GPU upgrades as well, if you want to draw that much power that is...

Seasonic 80 plus bronze, so yeah, efficiency gains with a new PSU was on my mind too.

[Bismut]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

wouldn't a 3080 be worse for power draw and performance than a 6800 xt or 6800

3080 recommended psu:

6800 recommended psu:

Where did you get that info? Recommended PSUs are like TDP, they give you a vague idea and that is it.
I would look at actual power draw instead, GN tests for it and so do others

[Bismut]

Just now, Makkendam said:

Seasonic 80 plus bronze, so yeah, efficiency gains with a new PSU was on my mind too.

You should go for Platinum if you use your PC a lot, but it would have to be ~8h/day at a high load to be remotely worth it, I would just stick to Gold.