pc running like crap

[Phantomcorgi94]

i have no idea what to do, ive been through task manager nothing taking up resources but computer is just sluggish as hell.

[filpo]

8 minutes ago, Phantomcorgi94 said:

i have no idea what to do, ive been through task manager nothing taking up resources but computer is just sluggish as hell.

this should be in troubleshooting section

 

regarding the statement, have u installed everything that you need to (graphics drivers, chipset drivers, bios) Also check your temps and power draw. Has this happened instantly or has this just come up recently and was working fine before?

[Phantomcorgi94]

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[Phantomcorgi94]

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

this should be in troubleshooting section

 

regarding the statement, have u installed everything that you need to (graphics drivers, chipset drivers, bios) Also check your temps and power draw. Has this happened instantly or has this just come up recently and was working fine before?

all drivers are installed and cpu and gpu power and temps seem ok, it has been sluggish for a while but has just gotten progressively worse

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Phantomcorgi94 said:

all drivers are installed and cpu and gpu power and temps seem ok, it has been sluggish for a while but has just gotten progressively worse

would you mind installing cinebench r20, furmark and memtest86 so i can diagnose it a bit more (cinebench r20 tests cpu, furmark at 1080p max tests gpu and memtest86 tests ram)

[PDifolco]

3 minutes ago, Phantomcorgi94 said:

all drivers are installed and cpu and gpu power and temps seem ok, it has been sluggish for a while but has just gotten progressively worse

Check if boot drive is near full

Reinstall Windows

[Phantomcorgi94]

16 minutes ago, filpo said:

would you mind installing cinebench r20, furmark and memtest86 so i can diagnose it a bit more (cinebench r20 tests cpu, furmark at 1080p max tests gpu and memtest86 tests ram)

i was able to run cinebench and furmark

Furmark;

Avg FPS; 137

Points; 8208

 

Cinebench;

Points; 4248

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Phantomcorgi94 said:

Avg FPS; 137

thats around what i got with my 3060 so can't be that

 

1 minute ago, Phantomcorgi94 said:

Cinebench;

Points; 4248

was this r20? cuz a 3400g normally gets 2000 in that 

if it was r23 or r15 then it makes more sense

[Phantomcorgi94]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

thats around what i got with my 3060 so can't be that

 

was this r20? cuz a 3400g normally gets 2000 in that 

if it was r23 or r15 then it makes more sense

r23 sorry it was the one i had installed

[filpo]

Just now, Phantomcorgi94 said:

r23 sorry it was the one i had installed

oh ok, ye the 3400g on average gets about 4800 points in that so don't think thats the problem either. Has this been happening with games too?

Also i would take @PDifolco's advice if all else fails as it seems like the only way

26 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Check if boot drive is near full

Reinstall Windows

 

[bezza...]

are you running a ssd???

[Phantomcorgi94]

Just now, filpo said:

oh ok, ye the 3400g on average gets about 4800 points in that so don't think thats the problem either. Has this been happening with games too?

Also i would take @PDifolco's advice if all else fails as it seems like the only way

 

yes it has. i have only really been playing microsoft flight sim and a couple days ago all of a sudden the cpu would continuously lag spike during gameplay

[Phantomcorgi94]

1 minute ago, Tomberry said:

are you running a ssd???

yes

[filpo]

Just now, Phantomcorgi94 said:

yes it has. i have only really been playing microsoft flight sim and a couple days ago all of a sudden the cpu would continuously lag spike during gameplay

so it might be your power constraints from your mobo (i had this problem too with an old h510m a pro mobo and 10100f, @Tomberry will know what i'm talking about). Do you have msi afterburner and riva tuner installed? If not then install it so you can see the power draw of the cpu and gpu in game. Do you know how to configure msi afterburner like that?

[Phantomcorgi94]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

so it might be your power constraints from your mobo (i had this problem too with an old h510m a pro mobo and 10100f, @Tomberry will know what i'm talking about). Do you have msi afterburner and riva tuner installed? If not then install it so you can see the power draw of the cpu and gpu in game. Do you know how to configure msi afterburner like that?

could i just use geoforce experience or hwinfo

[bezza...]

Just now, filpo said:

so it might be your power constraints from your mobo (i had this problem too with an old h510m a pro mobo and 10100f, @Tomberry will know what i'm talking about). Do you have msi afterburner and riva tuner installed? If not then install it so you can see the power draw of the cpu and gpu in game. Do you know how to configure msi afterburner like that?

hmm it could be. but looking at your specs in more deatail you are running a pretty low end cpu (pretty much all the ryzen apus excuding the 5600g and 5700g r not that good) and flight sim is a pretty cpu intensive game. also you are running 12 gigs of ram. check gpu and ram usage in the game. also did you check how full ur boot drive is. also what is the boot drive that you are currently using??

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Tomberry said:

and flight sim is a pretty cpu intensive game.

ye but they've had loads of weird problems in windows too tho. just windows isn't THAT cpu intensive. IMO i think its power contraints from the bad vrms

 

3 minutes ago, Phantomcorgi94 said:

could i just use geoforce experience or hwinfo

you could use hw info but that won't be available as an overlay in the game. geforce experience doesn't show cpu power draw. MSI Afterburner download: Afterburner (msi.com)

[Phantomcorgi94]

2 minutes ago, Tomberry said:

hmm it could be. but looking at your specs in more deatail you are running a pretty low end cpu (pretty much all the ryzen apus excuding the 5600g and 5700g r not that good) and flight sim is a pretty cpu intensive game. also you are running 12 gigs of ram. check gpu and ram usage in the game. also did you check how full ur boot drive is. also what is the boot drive that you are currently using??

the drive is a TS480GSSD220S, cpu and ram usage is pretty high but not pinned and when viewing the debug fps windows (part of msfs) it shows the main thread and coherentgtui where both lag spiking into 50ms each multiple times a second

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, Tomberry said:

hmm it could be. but looking at your specs in more deatail you are running a pretty low end cpu (pretty much all the ryzen apus excuding the 5600g and 5700g r not that good) and flight sim is a pretty cpu intensive game. also you are running 12 gigs of ram. check gpu and ram usage in the game. also did you check how full ur boot drive is. also what is the boot drive that you are currently using??

the board they're using has pretty bare vrms and power delivery too as well as not having many of them

[Phantomcorgi94]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

ye but they've had loads of weird problems in windows too tho. just windows isn't THAT cpu intensive. IMO i think its power contraints from the bad vrms

 

you could use hw info but that won't be available as an overlay in the game. geforce experience doesn't show cpu power draw. MSI Afterburner download: Afterburner (msi.com)

i do have 2 moniters and msi afterburner has always been a pain for me

[filpo]

Just now, Phantomcorgi94 said:

cpu and ram usage is pretty high

you got a cpu bottleneck then. RAM is fine if its like 1 gig below, but if the gpu isn't maxing with no frame rate cap on then its a cpu bottleneck. How much pwr is the cpu drawing btw?

[bezza...]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

ye but they've had loads of weird problems in windows too tho. just windows isn't THAT cpu intensive. IMO i think its power contraints from the bad vrms

 

 

hmm i doubt it. that cpu does not use that  much power and ive had a pretty good experiene with low end amd mobos and better cpus then the 3500g

[Phantomcorgi94]

Just now, filpo said:

the board they're using has pretty bare vrms and power delivery too as well as not having many of them

i do have the vrms modded with custom heatsinks

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Phantomcorgi94 said:

msi afterburner has always been a pain for me

why's that? I love it 

[Phantomcorgi94]

Just now, filpo said:

you got a cpu bottleneck then. RAM is fine if its like 1 gig below, but if the gpu isn't maxing with no frame rate cap on then its a cpu bottleneck. How much pwr is the cpu drawing btw?

65 watts on cpu

i do have a cap at 60fps though