Why is my 3k$ laptop faster than my 10k$ desktop?

[Niber]

Hi, I just bought a gaming laptop (Asus Rog Strix 16) thinking that even though it will be slower than my desktop I might be able to use it for some less demanding work on it, compared to the much more expensive desktop computer my employer bought for me last year.

However to my surprise I feel like the laptop is actually performing faster, so I downloaded 3dmark and was again surprised that the laptop received a much higher score (at 1080p)

 

 

*The laptop is brand new, the desktop is 1 year old.

*The laptop is RTX4000 series whereas the desktop is 3000-series. But still a desktop 3090 should be way faster than a mobile 4080.

 

I tried upgrading my desktop OS to a fresh Win11, but I received the same score. Does this make any sense to anyone?

 

Both were running in Performance power plan with newest drivers. I don't think the desktop is throttling because it's an enormous case with really strong cooling.

 

 

Desktop:

Laptop:

[Needfuldoer]

There's a massive per-thread performance difference between a Threadripper 3960X and an i9-13980HX.

 

Were both running Time Spy at the same resolution?

[_Omega_]

At first glance i can see that your PC performs quite a bit worse than the average in 3DMark, so there might be something wrong can you list the importeant components of those two systems 

 

EDIT: just saw that you have a Threadripper 3960X in your desktop... that thing is ot great for gaming what explains the lower CPU score... but in my opinion your graphics score is still lower than i would expect from a 3090

[Niber]

7 minutes ago, _Omega_ said:

At first glance i can see that your PC performs quite a bit worse than the average in 3DMark, so there might be something wrong can you list the importeant components of those two systems 

 

EDIT: just saw that you have a Threadripper 3960X in your desktop... that thing is ot great for gaming what explains the lower CPU score... but in my opinion your graphics score is still lower than i would expect from a 3090

256gb ram

TRX40 motherboard

 

Yeah it was probably not a great idea to get such a core-heavy CPU, still tho I'm surprised

[PDifolco]

13 minutes ago, Niber said:

Hi, I just bought a gaming laptop (Asus Rog Strix 16) thinking that even though it will be slower than my desktop I might be able to use it for some less demanding work on it, compared to the much more expensive desktop computer my employer bought for me last year.

However to my surprise I feel like the laptop is actually performing faster, so I downloaded 3dmark and was again surprised that the laptop received a much higher score (at 1080p)

 

 

*The laptop is brand new, the desktop is 1 year old.

*The laptop is RTX4000 series whereas the desktop is 3000-series. But still a desktop 3090 should be way faster than a mobile 4080.

 

I tried upgrading my desktop OS to a fresh Win11, but I received the same score. Does this make any sense to anyone?

 

Both were running in Performance power plan with newest drivers. I don't think the desktop is throttling because it's an enormous case with really strong cooling.

 

 

Desktop:

Laptop:

Your desktop score is abysmal, I have a way higher score with a 3080 and a 5900X, got around 17K (GPU) and 13K (CPU)...

[Isuck Assimov]

desktop is running the benchmark at 5120 x 1440, Laptop is running at 2560 x 1600

[_Omega_]

2 minutes ago, Assimov said:

desktop is running the benchmark at 5120 x 1440, Laptop is running at 2560 x 1600

as far as i know the benchmark is running the test at the same resolution, regardless of the native resolution of the display, so that sould not make a difference  

[Niber]

4 minutes ago, _Omega_ said:

as far as i know the benchmark is running the test at the same resolution, regardless of the native resolution of the display, so that sould not make a difference  

Yeah both set to 1080p and i can confirm that it was just rendering a small area on that 32:9 screen

 

[191x7]

13 minutes ago, Niber said:

 

256gb ram

TRX40 motherboard

 

Yeah it was probably not a great idea to get such a core-heavy CPU, still tho I'm surprised

Latest chipset drivers?

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-strx4/trx40

 

Latest Bios?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/TRX40-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

 

Temperatures under load?

 

Latest vBios on the RTX 3090?

[Niber]

11 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Your desktop score is abysmal, I have a way higher score with a 3080 and a 5900X, got around 17K (GPU) and 13K (CPU)...

But doesn't that depend on your settings? Or did you also use 1080p?

[_Omega_]

I get a GPU score of 19k (no GPU OC for that score) with my 6800XT, so your 3090 should get at least a 20+ k score. How are your gpu temps?

[Niber]

2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Latest chipset drivers?

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-strx4/trx40

 

Latest Bios?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/TRX40-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

 

Temperatures under load?

 

Latest vBios on the RTX 3090?

Latest on all except vbios, I'll check that tmw

 

Will do some kind of temp measurements too 

 

 

[Dedayog]

Who built the desktop?   Wonder if the 3090 is in the correct slot.  

 

Whoever charged you 2x it's worth needs to address that issue.

[PDifolco]

1 hour ago, Niber said:

But doesn't that depend on your settings? Or did you also use 1080p?

Hmmm thought 3DMark wasn't resolution dependent, anyway I use WQHD

 

[Niber]

8 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Who built the desktop?   Wonder if the 3090 is in the correct slot.  

 

Whoever charged you 2x it's worth needs to address that issue.

A local PC builder company built it. But I checked and the gfx is in the correct PCIE 16_1 slot

 

Unfortunately this is New Zealand so everything is x2 cost

[Niber]

8 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Latest chipset drivers?

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-strx4/trx40

 

Latest Bios?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/TRX40-AORUS-XTREME-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

 

Temperatures under load?

 

Latest vBios on the RTX 3090?

GPU temps reached 60 degree celcius during 3dmark

[OhYou_]

post gpu-z midway through the run on the desktop

 

[191x7]

56 minutes ago, Niber said:

GPU temps reached 60 degree celcius during 3dmark

And the GPU?

 

Look, I get a similar score with a Ryzen 5900X and a Radeon 5700XT.

[Niber]

54 minutes ago, OhYou_ said:

post gpu-z midway through the run on the desktop

 

Just as I  took this screenshot it seems the PerfCap reason is VRel but it was def 'power' most of the time, think I just clicked the screenshot on bad timing

[Niber]

3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

And the GPU?

 

Look, I get a similar score with a Ryzen 5900X and a Radeon 5700XT.

about 58

[Niber]

I just did a Topaz AI Video Enhance test (also GPU heavy), where the desktop performed 12% faster than the laptop. But still it should be much faster than that I would have thought,.

[191x7]

36 minutes ago, Niber said:

I just did a Topaz AI Video Enhance test (also GPU heavy), where the desktop performed 12% faster than the laptop. But still it should be much faster than that I would have thought,.

GPU load during the benchmarks?

[Niber]

6 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

GPU load during the benchmarks?

Laptop: 99%

Desktop: 80%

[OhYou_]

1 hour ago, Niber said:

Just as I  took this screenshot it seems the PerfCap reason is VRel but it was def 'power' most of the time, think I just clicked the screenshot on bad timing

that really seems like the card is bottlenecked p hard

[191x7]

37 minutes ago, Niber said:

Laptop: 99%

Desktop: 80%

80% load means a CPU related bottleneck.

 

Try TimeSpy Extreme or something.