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AMD Ryzen 9 7900X and MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI - EZ Debug CPU Light - Red

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40 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Is the RAM in the correct slots?

Tried with a single RAM stick?

Is the RAM on the QLV list of the motherboard?

I've got the RAM in slots A and C, which are the traditional dual channel configurations. Using one stick or no sticks at all doesn't change the behaviour.

 

Both the CPU and RAM modules (CMK32GX5M2B5600C36) are listed as compatible products.

 

Update:

 

Using RAM slots A and B made it post after about 30-40 seconds.

 

Update 2: Checking the manual states the recommended RAM slots used as B/D for dual channel and B for single. Using slots B/D allowed for a sucessful boot.

 

Clearly this was a case of RTFM and my old knowledge of using slots A/C!

 

Edit: Thanks for the assist @191x7

I'll start off this thread with the fact that I am an experienced IT techie...but that doesn't mean I haven't done something stupid or overlooked something!

 

In my workplace, we have bought 2x systems for our professional workload:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X

Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI

RAM: 23GB (2x 16GB) Corsair Vengeance 5600MHz CL36

Cooler: Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4

PSU: Montech 80+ Gold 650W

Storage: 1TB Samsung 980 Pro with heatsink

 

Both systems are experiencing the exact same issue - not posting, with the CPU LED red and the RAM LED amber on the motherboard (which means the board hasn't detected the CPU and RAM according to the manual).

 

Troubleshooting steps I've performed:

  • Removed all but the CPU, cooler, RAM and PSU
  • Removed the RAM - no beeps to complain that RAM isn't installed
  • Reseated the RAM
  • Reseated the CPU
  • Checked for damage in the LGA socket and also on the CPU itself
  • Ensured that the CPU has enough thermal paste
  • Used just the 8-pin power
  • Used the 8+4 pin power

I'm currently at a loss as to what the issue could be. I don't know if the CPU is receiving power or not and currently don't have another PSU to try.

Stop and think a second, something is more than nothing.

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Ok, can you confirm the CPU-s are 7900X and not the new 7900X3D?

 

Do the boards have Bios flashback so that you could try flashing the latest Bios?

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  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
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2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Ok, can you confirm the CPU-s are 7900X and not the new 7900X3D?

 

Do the boards have Bios flashback so that you could try flashing the latest Bios?

They are definately the 7900X, not the 3D.

 

The board does have a flash BIOS button above the rear IO, though I'm not sure how since I have no display output.

Stop and think a second, something is more than nothing.

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7 minutes ago, chiller15 said:

They are definately the 7900X, not the 3D.

 

The board does have a flash BIOS button above the rear IO, though I'm not sure how since I have no display output.

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M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

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Thans, I found that in the manual minutes after posting, but was waiting until the process completed before posting!

 

Sadly, flashing with the latest (non-beta) BIOS didn't work, I still have the same LEDs and no display.

Stop and think a second, something is more than nothing.

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8 minutes ago, chiller15 said:

Thans, I found that in the manual minutes after posting, but was waiting until the process completed before posting!

 

Sadly, flashing with the latest (non-beta) BIOS didn't work, I still have the same LEDs and no display.

Is the RAM in the correct slots?

Tried with a single RAM stick?

Is the RAM on the QLV list of the motherboard?

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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40 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Is the RAM in the correct slots?

Tried with a single RAM stick?

Is the RAM on the QLV list of the motherboard?

I've got the RAM in slots A and C, which are the traditional dual channel configurations. Using one stick or no sticks at all doesn't change the behaviour.

 

Both the CPU and RAM modules (CMK32GX5M2B5600C36) are listed as compatible products.

 

Update:

 

Using RAM slots A and B made it post after about 30-40 seconds.

 

Update 2: Checking the manual states the recommended RAM slots used as B/D for dual channel and B for single. Using slots B/D allowed for a sucessful boot.

 

Clearly this was a case of RTFM and my old knowledge of using slots A/C!

 

Edit: Thanks for the assist @191x7

Stop and think a second, something is more than nothing.

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