LTT Hat (waterproof)

[jbilloch]

As a person who's very prone to profusely sweat, I'd re-think the idea of the waterproof hat.  The idea of my head being steamed in my own sweat does not sound like fun times.  You need something that wicks off the sweat from your head...

[Spotty]

A solution to that problem could be having a lining on the inside of the hat that isn't hydrophobic. Or depending on how they're achieving the hydrophobic properties just not coat the inside.

Hopefully the material is still breathable.

[RollinLower]

sounds like you would be the kind of person to just...not buy the hat? They have the dad-hat which would work for you.

it's kind of impossible to make a product 100% suitable to every person on this earth.

[flameout]

I'm pretty sure some misleading stuff was said about this hat on stream... Linus said it's not a coating, but anyone who's into high end outdoor gear knows that water beading we observed was indicative of a DWR coating. Even GORE-TEX, the industry standard in water resistant technology explains that this cannot be permanent, you will need to reapply DWR to keep the beading behaviour - https://www.gore-tex.com/en_uk/support/care/dwr

 

Also worth noting that the usual process of applying DWR coatings includes a washer and dryer treatment so the brim of the hat would need to be able to hold up against many rounds of washing/drying.

[ToboRobot]

2 hours ago, jbilloch said:

As a person who's very prone to profusely sweat, I'd re-think the idea of the waterproof hat.  The idea of my head being steamed in my own sweat does not sound like fun times.  You need something that wicks off the sweat from your head...

You might also rethink a toque if you are a hot and sweaty person, but maybe others aren't or they live in a colder place.

For people living in Vancouver where it rains a lot, a water resistant (no such thing as water proof) would be great.  In Arizona, not so much.

Is this a good product, and is this the right product for me, are two different questions.

[Deonilin]

On 3/26/2023 at 12:43 PM, flameout said:

I'm pretty sure some misleading stuff was said about this hat on stream... Linus said it's not a coating, but anyone who's into high end outdoor gear knows that water beading we observed was indicative of a DWR coating. Even GORE-TEX, the industry standard in water resistant technology explains that this cannot be permanent, you will need to reapply DWR to keep the beading behaviour - https://www.gore-tex.com/en_uk/support/care/dwr

 

Also worth noting that the usual process of applying DWR coatings includes a washer and dryer treatment so the brim of the hat would need to be able to hold up against many rounds of washing/drying.

It would also be interesting to know if the DWR coating is using PFAS chemicals. I know many outdoor shops such as REI are trying to phase out the use of such chemicals due to the environmental impacts.

[flameout]

2 hours ago, Deonilin said:

It would also be interesting to know if the DWR coating is using PFAS chemicals. I know many outdoor shops such as REI are trying to phase out the use of such chemicals due to the environmental impacts.

The down in the new jacket is not RDS certified so I don't think they're going down the sustainable route at the moment. To be fair their MOQs are a lot lower than massive companies and adding green tax on top would make stuff crazy expensive

[Deonilin]

Obviously LTT have a number of challenges they have to face given the scale of their operation compared to many large brands and the sustainability of a product is a series of difficult decisions which need to be balanced against product cost. I only raise it as it's something that is relatively new to me and I don't have any knowledge on what the alternative solutions are.

 

In much the same way LTT have done in their tech reviews, I believe companies developing products should be pushed to be sustainable where it is feasible to do so. The sustainable impact of adding waterproofing to a hat should be part of the conversation.

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Personally the breathability is more important than my hair getting wet.  But I do hope they make them for different head sizes.