IS AN UPGRADE NEEDED? SPECS INCLUDED

[matthew0930]

 

Hello everyone!
I have been recommended to upgrade my CPU from a Ryzen 5 2600 to a Ryzen 5 5600.
Would an upgrade bring an amount of fps which would make the whole deal worthwhile? (Escape From Tarkov, Rust, DayZ, few games that I play)

Considering that currently my GPU usage is in the 60-70% range and doesn't go up much higher, which makes me think that it might be CPU bottlenecked.

My pc:

• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
• AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @3700MHz
• 16 GB DDR4 RAM (two sticks, one in the second the other in the fourth slot) 
• MSI B450 TOMAHAWK
• Windows 10
• Be quiet! 650W

 

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thank you!

 

 

 

[Zando_]

4 minutes ago, matthew0930 said:

Would an upgrade bring an amount of fps which would make the whole deal worthwhile?

Most likely. Zen+ cores are not very strong, everything you named benefits heavily from better single core performance. Zen 3 both clocks better and completes more instructions per clock, putting it far ahead of Zen+. 

[FrowningHippo]

UPGRADE IS RECOMMENDED. SEE POST ABOVE.

 

I am sorry. Really wanted to reply to the title. But yeah. Seems bottlenecked. Probably worth upgrading any reason in particular you want to go for the 5600? Low cost?

[matthew0930]

2 minutes ago, FrowningHippo said:

UPGRADE IS RECOMMENDED. SEE POST ABOVE.

 

I am sorry. Really wanted to reply to the title. But yeah. Seems bottlenecked. Probably worth upgrading any reason in particular you want to go for the 5600? Low cost?

Low cost mainly, and people have told me on this forum that 5600 would be a good choice, any better options?

[matthew0930]

10 minutes ago, Zando_ said:

Most likely. Zen+ cores are not very strong, everything you named benefits heavily from better single core performance. Zen 3 both clocks better and completes more instructions per clock, putting it far ahead of Zen+. 

So if I understand correctly, upgrading in the type of games that I play would give me a a reasonable boost in fps,
currently when gaming I sit around 60-80 fps and 144 fps would be ideal at 1080p

[Agall]

23 minutes ago, matthew0930 said:

 

Hello everyone!
I have been recommended to upgrade my CPU from a Ryzen 5 2600 to a Ryzen 5 5600.
Would an upgrade bring an amount of fps which would make the whole deal worthwhile? (Escape From Tarkov, Rust, DayZ, few games that I play)

Considering that currently my GPU usage is in the 60-70% range and doesn't go up much higher, which makes me think that it might be CPU bottlenecked.

My pc:

• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
• AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @3700MHz
• 16 GB DDR4 RAM (two sticks, one in the second the other in the fourth slot) 
• MSI B450 TOMAHAWK
• Windows 10
• Be quiet! 650W

 

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thank you!

 

 

 

Based on the motherboard+RAM you have (I'm assuming its not a 3600MHz CL16/18 kit), I'd just get a 7600 or 7800x3D and jump into AM5.

 

-Either wait for the 7800x3D at $450, or just buy an R5 7600(x)

-B650 motherboard

-2x16GB 6000MHz CL30-36 with tight timings, most the people here could give a good recommendation based on whatever heatspreader design you prefer. I went with a CL 36 w/ 36-36-36-76 for my 7950x3D.

 

Problem with the 7800x3D over the R5 7600 is its double the price and won't get anywhere close to double the gaming performance, and its going to likely end up the best office PC resell part for lets say in a year or two when the 8800x3D comes out.

 

At this point, unless someone has a good B550/X570(s) motherboard and good kit of DDR4, I don't recommend a drop in 5800x3D or even investing the $150 into a 5600 upgrade with how nice of a platform AM5 is in comparison. You're also unlikely to need to buy better than a 6000MHz 2x16GB CL30-36 kit for any real upgrade in the future, so that kit of DDR5 should stay relevant for longer. DDR5 has progressed pretty fast since its release, at least compared to DDR4 which took forever to get affordable 3200/3600 kits.

 

Side note: my brother's system recently got upgraded with his B450 motherboard to a 5800x3D and 2x16GB 3600MHz CL18 kit because it was a hammy down from his brother who upgrades his hardware just for the fun of it even though its barely an upgrade. Outside of that, its not worth investing into AM4 with new parts unless the mobo+RAM are perfect already.

[Agall]

11 minutes ago, matthew0930 said:

So if I understand correctly, upgrading in the type of games that I play would give me a a reasonable boost in fps,
currently when gaming I sit around 60-80 fps and 144 fps would be ideal at 1080p

You're not going to get that with a 5600 and likely a pretty mediocre kit of DDR4 that would've been common when the 2600 was current. Price/performance, just jump into an R5 7600, total being <$500 if you're using a cheap B650 motherboard and kit of RAM. About $600 is what I'd recommend spending, and you can reuse your current cooler since AM5 is 100% compatible with AM4.

 

Unless you literally only have $150 to spend, I wouldn't recommend basically burning $150 for what would unfortunately be little performance likely because of your RAM. You wouldn't even be getting PCIE4.0 since you're on a B450 motherboard, something that may be worth considering. A 1080ti is basically equivalent to an RTX 3060ti in today's world, which is more than sufficient for even 1440p, so I wouldn't recommend replacing that anytime soon if you're at 1080p.

[matthew0930]

1 minute ago, Agall said:

You're not going to get that with a 5600 and likely a pretty mediocre kit of DDR4 that would've been common when the 2600 was current. Price/performance, just jump into an R5 7600, total being <$500 if you're using a cheap B650 motherboard and kit of RAM. About $600 is what I'd recommend spending, and you can reuse your current cooler since AM5 is 100% compatible with AM4.

 

Unless you literally only have $150 to spend, I wouldn't recommend basically burning $150 for what would unfortunately be little performance likely because of your RAM. You wouldn't even be getting PCIE4.0 since you're on a B450 motherboard, something that may be worth considering.

What you are saying is exactly what I've heard from my brother, that this would be only a slight performance boost so it is not worth the money.
Thank you for helping and for your time, what you said will be of use in the future when I have the money

[matthew0930]

Thank you everyone for giving me advice!

[Agall]

14 minutes ago, matthew0930 said:

What you are saying is exactly what I've heard from my brother, that this would be only a slight performance boost so it is not worth the money.
Thank you for helping and for your time, what you said will be of use in the future when I have the money

For anyone else who might see this thread, if you're rocking a decent B550/X570 motherboard and a quality 3600MHz kit already, have a 3000 series or lower CPU, a 5600 drop in might be worth it, or a 5800x3D. Where it becomes hard to recommend is that an R5 7600(x) is on par in terms of performance in most games and if you're getting a decent AM5 motherboard+ DDR5 RAM kit, reselling that R5 7600 later should be easy. A 5600 without a quality kit of RAM won't be beneficial enough, and if you're not rocking a 500 series chipset, you're not getting PCIE4.0 (which is starting to actually matter).

 

As someone who manages a network, I'm looking at eventually replacing most the desktops I have with AM5 systems, especially the R5 7600 for power users, since its more than capable at stock configuration at being a powerful workstation for any user. Unlike the 5600, the iGPU allows for this, and its not a L3 cache compromise like the 5600G was (only had 16MB L3 versus 32MB L3 of the 5600). When the 8800x3D comes out in a year+, I'm expecting tons of R5 7600 to hit the market, which will be far more reliable with the LGA design than the previous PGA.

[SorryBella]

8 hours ago, Agall said:

a 5600 drop in might be worth it, or a 5800x3D.

Id say to go ham and run 5800X3D, those games are ludicrous in CPU usage. OP's board VRM is fine for stock ops on it, just dont try to run it on stock cooler. 

[ahmad13610]

16 hours ago, matthew0930 said:

 

Hello everyone!
I have been recommended to upgrade my CPU from a Ryzen 5 2600 to a Ryzen 5 5600.
Would an upgrade bring an amount of fps which would make the whole deal worthwhile? (Escape From Tarkov, Rust, DayZ, few games that I play)

Considering that currently my GPU usage is in the 60-70% range and doesn't go up much higher, which makes me think that it might be CPU bottlenecked.

My pc:

• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
• AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @3700MHz
• 16 GB DDR4 RAM (two sticks, one in the second the other in the fourth slot) 
• MSI B450 TOMAHAWK
• Windows 10
• Be quiet! 650W

 

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thank you!

 

 

 

ryzen 7 x3d should be looks like