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Not bad, but you can do a fair bit better for this price:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2qNYsL

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Budget (including currency): ~$2000 CAD 

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Halo MCC, Plex server, ML projects 

 

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DfFm9r)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/qtvqqs/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-38-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000063wof) | $299.00 @ Canada Computers 
**CPU Cooler** | [be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/TyBhP6/be-quiet-pure-rock-2-black-cpu-cooler-bk007) | $59.99 @ Canada Computers 
**Motherboard** | [Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/dmGnTW/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi) | $269.50 @ Vuugo 
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yg3mP6/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk32gx4m2d3600c18) | $104.99 @ Amazon Canada 
**Storage** | [Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/f3cRsY/samsung-980-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v8p2t0bam) | $219.99 @ Amazon Canada 
**Video Card** | [ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/8HBG3C/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-challenger-d-video-card-rx6700xt-cld-12g) | $489.99 @ Newegg Canada 
**Case** | [Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/tcnypg/phanteks-eclipse-g360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dmw02) | $159.98 @ Newegg Canada 
**Power Supply** | [Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/26rRsY/corsair-rm850x-2021-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020200-na) | $180.50 @ Vuugo 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1793.94
 | Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
 | **Total** | **$1783.94**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2023-03-17 20:10 EDT-0400 |


Sorry if I broke some rules I'm new and wanted to get peoples opinion on this build before I make all purchases Sunday...

 

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It looks to me like your over paying in a few places.

Firstly, is there some feature on the motherboard you've selected that isn't on chaper ones. You could get something like a ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4/ac for $113.25 CAD.

Secondly, the 980 Pro is a great drive, but it's very expensive. A Kingston NV2 is alot cheaper and the performance difference is gonna be hard to notice.

 

Thirdly, that case alot more than what I'd spend on a case. If you really want that one then fair enough but I'd get a cheaper one and spend the savings on components that actually affect performance.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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8 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Not bad, but you can do a fair bit better for this price:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2qNYsL

12600KF is an option that give a slightly better upgrade path, but 5800x is just a good imo. However, intel 12th gen does give you DDR5 but you will pay more than for 5800x with DDR4. see reviews for how much of a difference DDR4/5 makes.

Also, the NVMe drive still seems expensive compared to NV2.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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Ideally for ml projects, you'd want an nvidia gpu since ml isn't really supported for amd.

Something like this would be ideal. 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($325.95 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.90 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ Memory Express) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($149.59 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($849.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($123.50 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($136.40 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1919.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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44 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

Ideally for ml projects, you'd want an nvidia gpu since ml isn't really supported for amd.

Something like this would be ideal. 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($325.95 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.90 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760M GAMING X AX DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ Memory Express) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($149.59 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($849.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($123.50 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($136.40 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1919.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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might go with your suggested cpu, but its too late for the graphics card ordered the RX6700XT today and the case.

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based on yalls suggestions this is what I have right now
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9CkHcb

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($325.95 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.90 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($238.97 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($163.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case  ($159.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($180.50 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1694.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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47 minutes ago, Merkley said:

based on yalls suggestions this is what I have right now
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9CkHcb

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($325.95 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.90 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($238.97 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($163.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case  ($159.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($180.50 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1694.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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well built 750W is enough to run this setup. It really is a massive and could-be-fatal blow that you went AMDGPU on this one, Arc machine learning systems isnt ready for primetime yet too.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($489.99 @ Memory Express) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.90 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Steel Legend Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($164.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($163.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1103.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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7 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

well built 750W is enough to run this setup. It really is a massive and could-be-fatal blow that you went AMDGPU on this one, Arc machine learning systems isnt ready for primetime yet too.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($489.99 @ Memory Express) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.90 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Steel Legend Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($164.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($163.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1103.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Do you think It's worth to get the DDR5?

 

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13 minutes ago, Merkley said:

Do you think It's worth to get the DDR5?

 

Depends on how memory heavy your machine learning language is, because beyond that id definitely just go for 3200C16 kits of DDR4 RAM, its not worth the massive price increase of a better board and 6000C40 kit.

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This is the final build just finished purchasing everything other than cpu and psu which I will be picking up in person on Sunday https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NJKnzf
thank you everyone for all the help! 🙂 I will for sure come back to this forum if I need any help in the future! 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NJKnzf

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($379.00 @ Canada Computers) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($44.90 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 UD AC ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($254.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Patriot Viper RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($149.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($163.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case  ($159.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($180.50 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $1823.34

Total After Ontario Tax: ~$2056.13 CAD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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On 3/18/2023 at 10:21 AM, SorryClaire said:

Depends on how memory heavy your machine learning language is

It's usually python as glue code for Cpp libraries, and it's mostly irrelevant, specially because OP went with an AMD GPU, but more often than not the amount of RAM is way more important than speed.

On 3/18/2023 at 10:58 AM, Merkley said:

Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($489.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Just be aware that you won't be able to do anything relevant ML-wise with thise GPU, other than some SciKIt simple stuff with your CPU. For anything a bit more involved, you're better off with colab rather than trying to mess with your GPU.

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