Need help with new build

[Buckyy]

Budget (including currency): No budget in particular

Country: United Kingdom

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

• Unreal Engine (Game Development)
• FL Studio (Game Sound Design)
• Maya 2023 (3D Modelling)
• Able to run upcoming AAA game titles.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I have got this list of parts Including ones I already have and ones I still need to purchase: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sFVFjZ

I need help with storage, as seen in the games and programs line, I need quite a lot of space for my music, modelling and game development.

 

Thank you in advanced

I am open to other suggestions if their are any better alternative parts to what are listed on the partpicker page

[Penpilot]

11 minutes ago, Buckyy said:

I need quite a lot of space for my music, modelling and game development.

does this storage need to be fast or will high capacity hard drives do?

 

11 minutes ago, Buckyy said:

No budget in particular

could you gave a range or a max price point? also are you running linux or windows?

[Buckyy]

11 minutes ago, shreshta said:

does this storage need to be fast or will high capacity hard drives do?

 

could you gave a range or a max price point? also are you running linux or windows?

Fast NVME for windows and then high capacity for everything else
Max price £2,000-2,500

[Rysters Tech]

4 minutes ago, Buckyy said:

Fast NVME for windows and then high capacity for everything else
Max price £2,000-2,500

Toshiba X300 drives are excellent in my experience, fast, reliable, can be had in 4tb to 16tb capacities, handle 24/7 loads no problem.

[Penpilot]

1 hour ago, Buckyy said:

Thank you in advanced

I am open to other suggestions if their are any better alternative parts to what are listed on the partpicker page

this is the best i could do-

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Bd6BC6

i have down graded the CPU and increased toe cost by 350 pounds but those are well spent,

 

i have added a 8TB hard drive for you to put your inactive projects in while your boot drive should hold the active ones,

 

i have added a vastly superior GPU( like 1.5x the performance,

 

increased the CPU performance(that motherboards VRMs were going to hit 120 degrees as soon as you did anything cpu intensive)

 

and also as a side note, i have no idea what you were planning to do with 32GB of ram, you need 64GB!! so i added a second pair of sticks(that is not there to represent the RAM you already have)

[Buckyy]

1 hour ago, shreshta said:

this is the best i could do-

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Bd6BC6

i have down graded the CPU and increased toe cost by 350 pounds but those are well spent,

 

i have added a 8TB hard drive for you to put your inactive projects in while your boot drive should hold the active ones,

 

i have added a vastly superior GPU( like 1.5x the performance,

 

increased the CPU performance(that motherboards VRMs were going to hit 120 degrees as soon as you did anything cpu intensive)

 

and also as a side note, i have no idea what you were planning to do with 32GB of ram, you need 64GB!! so i added a second pair of sticks(that is not there to represent the RAM you already have)

Hi, thank you for that! Very helpful.

But can I ask why you replaced the i9 with a i7? will it preform better?

[TPCEA]

6 hours ago, Buckyy said:

Budget (including currency): No budget in particular

Country: United Kingdom

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

• Unreal Engine (Game Development)
• FL Studio (Game Sound Design)
• Maya 2023 (3D Modelling)
• Able to run upcoming AAA game titles.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I have got this list of parts Including ones I already have and ones I still need to purchase: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sFVFjZ

I need help with storage, as seen in the games and programs line, I need quite a lot of space for my music, modelling and game development.

 

Thank you in advanced

I am open to other suggestions if their are any better alternative parts to what are listed on the partpicker page

You've gotten some good advice, so I hope I can add to that.

 

Regarding the water cooler you chose, it's ok but there are definitely better ones to choose from. Please read my post below, which gives a bunch of water cooling info, also fans..

To help you assess the best options for CPUs, watch this:

I definitely agree with @shreshtaabout needing 64GB of RAM.
 

Instead of a Gen 3, which is pretty good, aim for a Gen 4. It doesn't have to be top tier, I don't think, and I suggest a 500GB to 1TB  M.2 PCIe Gen 4x4 NVMe SSD for Windows, and a separate one for your games and big programs - preferably 2TB or more. For example, you could get the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus, the WD Black SN770, the Crucial P5, the SK Hynix Platinum P41 (which is near the top of the list), or any of a large number of other SSDs. If you want top SSDs, look at Tom's Hardware's Best SSDs article.

You can hang on to HDD tech but if you'd like a 50% increase in performance, less heat and lower power consumption, I'd suggest a SATA NVMe SSD instead. Or use both. The SSD would be a perfectly fine storage medium for active project, while the mothballed stuff could go to the HDD. When it fills up, get another HDD or SSD to keep mothballing your finished work. Keep in mind that HDDs are very slow when it comes to large files.

The 5000D airflow case is a good choice, perhaps better than the MSI you chose. There are others that would also outdo the MSI case.

 

Unless you need ray-tracing and DLSS, you could also save money by going for an AMD GC instead of Nvidia.

 

I hope these tips help. Let me know if you have any questions.

[Penpilot]

10 hours ago, Buckyy said:

But can I ask why you replaced the i9 with a i7? will it preform better?

no, it will perform worse but given your workload i don't see the need for you to get a i9, and also as i said, the i9 would have throttled because of the cheap motherboard anyways so its actually a all round improvement but also there is budget left to upgrade to a i9 if you think there is a need for that.

 

6 hours ago, RevGAM said:

To help you assess the best options for CPUs, watch this:

AM5 will cost more and wont necessarily perform better given that there is virtually no difference between 500 and 600 FPS.

 

6 hours ago, RevGAM said:

Instead of a Gen 3, which is pretty good, aim for a Gen 4. It doesn't have to be top tier, I don't think, and I suggest a 500GB to 1TB  M.2 PCIe Gen 4x4 NVMe SSD for Windows, and a separate one for your games and big programs - preferably 2TB or more. For example, you could get the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus, the WD Black SN770, the Crucial P5, the SK Hynix Platinum P41 (which is near the top of the list), or any of a large number of other SSDs. If you want top SSDs, look at Tom's Hardware's Best SSDs article.

they are going to need a good SSD, not just a fast one. for them a 970 evo plus will be better than a SN770 bacause of the dram cheche of the Samsung SSD

 

also here is another list that costs more with all the reasonable upgrades-

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/f4ZFjZ

i have added a 2TB buffer for active projects, got a quitter cooler for the gpu, got a 7950x that sometimes performs better or worse given the situation that the i9 13900k 

 

OR

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2XMwW4

i have added the i9 back and l also added the best SSD on the market right now, the Samsung 990 pro, see if you can take this as your boot drive cuz it is FAST but you can also use it as a buffer for your projects also the gpu is quieter.

 

 

both of these builds are worse value than what i originally suggested

also i think you are a first time builder-

(16) How to build a PC, the last guide you'll ever need! - YouTube

and also-

(16) What to do AFTER you build your PC... Updated for 2023 - YouTube

 

Edited March 17, 2023 by shreshta

[TPCEA]

4 hours ago, shreshta said:

AM5 will cost more and wont necessarily perform better given that there is virtually no difference between 500 and 600 FPS.

You've misunderstood. If I was suggesting AM5, I'd have just said that. The video may be about the 7950X3d, but it compares the performance of several AMD and Intel processors in different ways. Not every chart is as comprehensive, but overall it can give the OP, who has a very demanding use-case, an idea of what will be the best choice within the budget.

4 hours ago, shreshta said:

they are going to need a good SSD, not just a fast one. for them a 970 evo plus will be better than a SN770 bacause of the dram cheche of the Samsung SSD

I just gave a range of options without consideration for DRAM cache. Thanks for pointing out that the SN770 is not as good because it lacks a cache. I felt the use-case justified using Gen 4x4, don't you agree?

4 hours ago, shreshta said:

also here is another list that costs more with all the reasonable upgrades-

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/f4ZFjZ

i have added a 2TB buffer for active projects, got a quitter cooler for the gpu, got a 7950x that sometimes performs better or worse given the situation that the i9 13900k 

On that first build, I'm just going to point out that, although the DC 620 is an excellent cooler, the ThermalRight Peerless Assassin 120, and one or two others are even better. 

 

Also, I've seen several indications that having a 500GB to 1TB boot drive provides certain advantages for the OS. If the OP then buys a second drive (M.2 PCIe NVMe or SATA NVMe SSD), the OP can install their programs to it so as to minimize taking up space on the boot drive.

 

The Samsung 990 may be one of the best SSDs on the market, but the OP needs to know that it's important to update the firmware immediately with their Magician software to make sure it doesn't have the fatal firmware version.

 

I wonder why the SK Hynix Platinum P41 dropped off of Tom's best SSD list? It used to be ranked the absolute best.