Memory Upgrade

[mikeb123]

Hello, everyone! I am currently trying to upgrade my RAM memory, but I have some issues. I have bought a kit of 2x 16GB DDR4 Kingston HyperX Renegade RGB 3600MHz CL16, but my PC will only work if I'm using the XMP profile for 3000MHz.

 

Before changing the memory, I had a kit of 2x 8GB Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 3600MHz CL17 and they worked perfectly fine. 

 

Also, should I just return the memory kit and get something like 3200MHz / CL16? Does RAM frequency affect performance so badly?

 

Thanks!

 

My PC specs:

 

MB: AsRock B450 Pro4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600

GPU: AMD RX 6800XT

PSU: Corsair RM850

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Do you use the latest bios for your motherboard?

[filpo]

5 minutes ago, mikeb123 said:

Hello, everyone! I am currently trying to upgrade my RAM memory, but I have some issues. I have bought a kit of 2x 16GB DDR4 Kingston HyperX Renegade RGB 3600MHz CL16, but my PC will only work if I'm using the XMP profile for 3000MHz.

 

Before changing the memory, I had a kit of 2x 8GB Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 3600MHz CL17 and they worked perfectly fine. 

 

Also, should I just return the memory kit and get something like 3200MHz / CL16? Does RAM frequency affect performance so badly?

 

Thanks!

 

My PC specs:

 

MB: AsRock B450 Pro4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600

GPU: AMD RX 6800XT

PSU: Corsair RM850

try a reseat of your CPU because that helped me to get full speed of my RAM

[Fasauceome]

17 minutes ago, mikeb123 said:

should I just return the memory kit and get something like 3200MHz / CL16? Does RAM frequency affect performance so badly?

Frequency and latency are pretty important, for Ryzen CPUs especially. 3600MHz is pretty close to the maximum performance gains you can get from them without serious tweaking to things like FCLK.

 

3200MHz is a good choice, but I'll bet you can get the current ram kit there just fine with a slight overclock. A voltage increase on the ram will likely help a lot.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

21 minutes ago, mikeb123 said:

Also, should I just return the memory kit and get something like 3200MHz / CL16? Does RAM frequency affect performance so badly?

DEFINITELY

 

3600c16 is a scam, same exact ram ics as 3600c18 not to mention cas doesnt even do shit for performance outside of benchmarks, unless youve bought 3600 16-16-16 bdie in that case youve got some good rams

 

 

Buy a 2x16 3200c16 or 3600c18 kit, theyll be good enough performers and attempting to buy your way into high performance rams is a futile effort (i really do mean it when i say fast rams are gated behind oc, high bins = shit subtimings, even bdie has meh stock timings)

 

If you are willing to do some basic ram tuning then find some used bare pcb 8gb 2666c19 bin micron/crucial, rev e prefferably c9bjz ics but at the slow 3800-4000 youll be running due to fclk and dual rank doesnt matter that much just dont accidentally buy rev b (d9txx) or god forbid rev a (d9rxx). Buy 4 for a 4x8 config, asrocks b350 and b450 boards all seem to be t topology so theyre best ran with 4 sticks, all you gotta do is just set some generic 3600c18 primaries, set freq at 3800-4000 and tighten the primaries + subtimings from there, dont need >1.5v nor will you be spending more than a few hours tuning as 3800/4000 is still a very mild overclock, focus on tightening trfc, trrd-l/s, trc, and tfaw, dont overtighten cas or tcwl cause those will start gobbling volt at a certain point. 3800-4000 for 1:1 fclk, tightened subtimings, and dual rank is pretty much the best you can do ram configuration wise and will crush that scam 3600c16 bin

[Ebony Falcon]

Bump soc to 1.2 and dram voltage up by .05v see if that helps 

[Ebony Falcon]

13 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

DEFINITELY

 

3600c16 is a scam, same exact ram ics as 3600c18 not to mention cas doesnt even do shit for performance outside of benchmarks, unless youve bought 3600 16-16-16 bdie in that case youve got some good rams

 

 

Buy a 2x16 3200c16 or 3600c18 kit, theyll be good enough performers and attempting to buy your way into high performance rams is a futile effort (i really do mean it when i say fast rams are gated behind oc, high bins = shit subtimings, even bdie has meh stock timings)

 

If you are willing to do some basic ram tuning then find some used bare pcb 8gb 2666c19 bin micron/crucial, rev e prefferably c9bjz ics but at the slow 3800-4000 youll be running due to fclk and dual rank doesnt matter that much just dont accidentally buy rev b (d9txx) or god forbid rev a (d9rxx). Buy 4 for a 4x8 config, asrocks b350 and b450 boards all seem to be t topology so theyre best ran with 4 sticks, all you gotta do is just set some generic 3600c18 primaries, set freq at 3800-4000 and tighten the primaries + subtimings from there, dont need >1.5v nor will you be spending more than a few hours tuning as 3800/4000 is still a very mild overclock, focus on tightening trfc, trrd-l/s, trc, and tfaw, dont overtighten cas or tcwl cause those will start gobbling volt at a certain point. 3800-4000 for 1:1 fclk, tightened subtimings, and dual rank is pretty much the best you can do ram configuration wise and will crush that scam 3600c16 bin

He can just change the cas latency to 18 to see if it helps otherwise no point in getting 3600 cl18’s 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

31 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

He can just change the cas latency to 18 to see if it helps otherwise no point in getting 3600 cl18’s 

Aside from cost cutting cause 3600c16 (16-19-19, etc.) Is alot more pricey than 3600c18 even if theres basically no performance difference

 

 

If you are only saving 15$ or less and there are no klevv or crucials going around for the same price you paid for that scam 3600c16 then sure keep it unless its got some awful ics like samsung m die or something like that. If it happens to have micron 16gbit b die then definitely keep those are very good 16gbit ics

 

Take a screenie of thaiphoon burner to verify ram ic

[Ebony Falcon]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Aside from cost cutting cause 3600c16 (16-19-19, etc.) Is alot more pricey than 3600c18 even if theres basically no performance difference

 

 

If you are only saving 15$ or less and there are no klevv or crucials going around for the same price you paid for that scam 3600c16 then sure keep it unless its got some awful ics like samsung m die or something like that. If it happens to have micron 16gbit b die then definitely keep those are very good 16gbit ics

 

Take a screenie of thaiphoon burner to verify ram ic

Yeah sure I get that but he may as well run it with looser timings to make sure it will run even save him getting 3600 cl18 and it also not working