Help picking a darn GPU

[OnionRings]

Changing the title, looking for help picking a card. I want to do 1440p 144hz, would prefer to be able to do 80+ on high settings in the games, I can use DLSS that doesn't bother me. NVIDIA only preferably, don't like AMD cards.

Looking at possible 3060 tis, 3070s, 3070 tis, can't settle on whats the best deal, many options and im overwhelmed.
 

Edited February 18, 2023 by OnionRings

[PDifolco]

16 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

Would you pay 100 more? Not worth it right? Its like a 10% increase? I found a 3070 LHR for 559, whereas the 3070 ti I was looking at was 649.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B098Q4M4WH/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A23NVCSO4PYH3S&psc=1

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BQ921V81/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A2YLYLTN75J8LR&psc=1

pfffr for $600 you can have a 6800XT which is comparable to a 3080, with worse RT tho, but it's not good on a 3080 anyway

And if you can pay $650 you could maybe go up to $800 and just get a 4070Ti

 

[OnionRings]

Just now, PDifolco said:

pfffr for $600 you can have a 6800XT which is comparable to a 3080, with worse RT tho, but it's not good on a 3080 anyway

And if you can pay $650 you could maybe go up to $800 and just get a 4070Ti

 

I am still super skeptical of AMD cards, had a few in the past and suffered tons of driver issues and BS, really not a fan of them. As far as budget, its up in the air, my family member is helping me buy the card but is already skeptical of just the 650 price tag, because with taxes (and I need a new PSU), its like 860. Trying to push more is dicey and would end up closer to 1k.

Im trying really hard to find a decent card as cheap as possible, I basically am aiming for 1440p, making that step up.

[OnionRings]

Ive found two 3070s for 559 and 577, above MSRP by 60-80 bucks, plus tax and shipping, ugh. I hate card shopping lol

[PDifolco]

30 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

I am still super skeptical of AMD cards, had a few in the past and suffered tons of driver issues and BS, really not a fan of them. As far as budget, its up in the air, my family member is helping me buy the card but is already skeptical of just the 650 price tag, because with taxes (and I need a new PSU), its like 860. Trying to push more is dicey and would end up closer to 1k.

Im trying really hard to find a decent card as cheap as possible, I basically am aiming for 1440p, making that step up.

AMD made a long way with its GPU driver support, as they did with GPU and CPU themselves. If they worked that badly we won't have all techtubers benchmarking them...

Seems to me kinda dumb to spend more money for less on NVidia, esp. on overpriced midrange 3000 series now that the 4000 are out and overall better (nor really cheaper for same perf, but more efficient, better cooled and thus quieter)

1440p for cheap => 6700XT , $350

[jaslion]

39 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

Ive found two 3070s for 559 and 577, above MSRP by 60-80 bucks, plus tax and shipping, ugh. I hate card shopping lol

Issue with the 3070 is that the 8gb frame buffer has been maxing out at 1440p basically since launch. It has raw performance but lack of vram hurts it and it's becoming very nocticeable in recently released games.

 

I'd just opt for the 6800xt it's a lot of card and it doesnt run out of memory

[OnionRings]

14 hours ago, PDifolco said:

AMD made a long way with its GPU driver support, as they did with GPU and CPU themselves. If they worked that badly we won't have all techtubers benchmarking them...

Seems to me kinda dumb to spend more money for less on NVidia, esp. on overpriced midrange 3000 series now that the 4000 are out and overall better (nor really cheaper for same perf, but more efficient, better cooled and thus quieter)

1440p for cheap => 6700XT , $350

Thats fair, It was a while back that I had them. I've used an RX 470, 480, 570 and 580 before over various rigs and such. I never really liked their software, the lack of gsync, dlss, but I know they have freesync and their own version of a downscaling thing.

 

14 hours ago, jaslion said:

Issue with the 3070 is that the 8gb frame buffer has been maxing out at 1440p basically since launch. It has raw performance but lack of vram hurts it and it's becoming very nocticeable in recently released games.

 

I'd just opt for the 6800xt it's a lot of card and it doesnt run out of memory

I already purchased a 3070 ti but I am debating cancelling the order, I don't know... I didn't know the 3070 had issues with vram, none of my research showed that but I also didn't look for that specifically.

[jaslion]

5 hours ago, OnionRings said:

I already purchased a 3070 ti but I am debating cancelling the order, I don't know... I didn't know the 3070 had issues with vram, none of my research showed that but I also didn't look for that specifically.

The cards vram is fine its just that 8gb is not enough. You already need to lower texture quality in some games to be in limit.

 

Best to compared amd had 8gb on their BUDGET rx480 in 2016 which was a lot more than it needed at the time. Now 6 years later that 480 is finally having its vram maxed out and it has aged wondefully.

 

The 1060 it competes with has had the 6gb maxed out for longer and it has had to lower texture quality longer. Soon other settings too if you dont want texture to start looking too bad. The card has the raw performance just not the vram.

 

The gtx 1070 had 8gb of vram in 2016 too. Nvidia took 6 years to FINALLY give a 70s series more as the 4070ti finally has 12gb of vram.

 

The fact a 3070(ti) still only has 8gb made me recommend amd more or going a step up. I alsways avoided the 10gb 3080 too. This has been a cycled that kept on repeating for over a decade now where the high end card with the more vram (in a reasonable limit) lasted FAR longer than the card that didn't and also started performing better the older it got vompared to its competitor.

 

So if you can Id cancel the 3070ti. The 6800xt is faster than it and has more vram. Yes you lose dlss but that isnt a universal upscaler so wont always apply and yes you lose better raytracing but still to this day the use is very limited and performance impact is massive on either side.

 

If you do creative work like video editin, 3d modeling,... oick nvidia regardless but if its just gaming get amd