Performance Issue

[picipuni23]

Hello guys!

I have performance issues in lot of game lately i upgraded my cpu and gpu and games running very badly compared to videos and tests. The most noticable performance issue is in dyinglight2, cyberpunk, compared to benchmarks I am barerly getting 60Fps. I already searched through the internet watched videos and I cant figure out what is the problem my friend with weaker setup getting more fps than me. I have the latest drivers latest bios update installed nothing are overclocked everything is runnin at stock.

Setup:
MB: Asrock b450m pro4-f
Ram: 2x8gb hyperx fury 2933mhz cl16
Cpu: Ryzen 7 5800x3d
Gpu: Asus Rtx 3070
Ps: 750w CoolerMaster
Ssd: Samsung evo 970

[DANK_AS_gay]

5 minutes ago, picipuni23 said:

Hello guys!

I have performance issues in lot of game lately i upgraded my cpu and gpu and games running very badly compared to videos and tests. The most noticable performance issue is in dyinglight2, cyberpunk, compared to benchmarks I am barerly getting 60Fps. I already searched through the internet watched videos and I cant figure out what is the problem my friend with weaker setup getting more fps than me. I have the latest drivers latest bios update installed nothing are overclocked everything is runnin at stock.

Setup:
MB: Asrock b450m pro4-f
Ram: 2x8gb hyperx fury 2933mhz cl16
Cpu: Ryzen 7 5800x3d
Gpu: Asus Rtx 3070
Ps: 750w CoolerMaster
Ssd: Samsung evo 970

Your RAM is pretty slow, and I would run Cinebench to stress your CPU and use HWinfo to look at how much power it is drawing. Also, what are your temperatures?

[DANK_AS_gay]

Also what settings are you using? Are you using DLSS? What resolutions are you and your friend playing at?

[picipuni23]

3 hours ago, DANK_AS_gay said:

Your RAM is pretty slow, and I would run Cinebench to stress your CPU and use HWinfo to look at how much power it is drawing. Also, what are your temperatures?

[picipuni23]

3 hours ago, DANK_AS_gay said:

Your RAM is pretty slow, and I would run Cinebench to stress your CPU and use HWinfo to look at how much power it is drawing. Also, what are your temperatures?

Sorry for not including the temps but maximum was 85-86c, and I'm playing in 1080p

[picipuni23]

3 hours ago, DANK_AS_gay said:

Also what settings are you using? Are you using DLSS? What resolutions are you and your friend playing at?

Of caurse I tried every variation that is possible in every game I've experienced issues with.

[DANK_AS_gay]

15 hours ago, picipuni23 said:

 

 

Your CPU is drawing 100w while in CineBench, it should be drawing 200w according to Guru3D. I think it may be a motherboard issue, that thing may not be able to supply the proper power. Also what cooler are you using?

[picipuni23]

35 minutes ago, DANK_AS_gay said:

 

Your CPU is drawing 100w while in CineBench, it should be drawing 200w according to Guru3D. I think it may be a motherboard issue, that thing may not be able to supply the proper power. Also what cooler are you using?

Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO

[picipuni23]

Just now, picipuni23 said:

Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO

I'll try another b450 board then, hopefully It'll help.

[picipuni23]

53 minutes ago, DANK_AS_gay said:

 

Your CPU is drawing 100w while in CineBench, it should be drawing 200w according to Guru3D. I think it may be a motherboard issue, that thing may not be able to supply the proper power. Also what cooler are you using?

Can you explain to me what is power con because every test i check on yt it has the same value as mine.

[DANK_AS_gay]

1 hour ago, picipuni23 said:

Can you explain to me what is power con because every test i check on yt it has the same value as mine.

That's the max power consumption of your CPU under full load. That's why I asked you to put it under full load and then look at the power consumption. If it doesn't hit that limit then I can narrow the problem down to a few different things, like temps or power delivery. During games it won't hit the same power limits, but it could be a potential problem, and it helps to cross out every possible problem.

[picipuni23]

19 minutes ago, DANK_AS_gay said:

That's the max power consumption of your CPU under full load. That's why I asked you to put it under full load and then look at the power consumption. If it doesn't hit that limit then I can narrow the problem down to a few different things, like temps or power delivery. During games it won't hit the same power limits, but it could be a potential problem, and it helps to cross out every possible problem.

So what parts of the components could cause bad power delivery that i should check?

[picipuni23]

4 minutes ago, picipuni23 said:

So what parts of the components could cause bad power delivery that i should check?

Me and my friend ran alot a of benchmarks and monitored them all, and the maximum power consumption was 115-117w for both of us on max load, but the games on his pc runs as they should so, I dont know.

[Ripred]

I doubt your ram speed is an issue as it matters very little with x3d, and mine running 3000Mhz & hits 14700 in Cinebench with a 212 evo cooler so id say thermals are fine hmmm

Run those benchmarks again with HWinfo open and see what the voltages are at idle and under load while the benchmark is running, particularly the 12v and 5V maybe there's a voltage droop, (you do have the ram sticks in the right slots?) lol dual vs single can have an impact, any background software running? RGB software like synapse or corsair anything like that? if so disable them and restart try the benchmarks again, disconnected from the internet

[picipuni23]

6 minutes ago, Ripred said:

I doubt your ram speed is an issue as it matters very little with x3d, and mine running 3000Mhz & hits 14700 in Cinebench with a 212 evo cooler so id say thermals are fine hmmm

Run those benchmarks again with HWinfo open and see what the voltages are at idle and under load while the benchmark is running, particularly the 12v and 5V maybe there's a voltage droop, (you do have the ram sticks in the right slots?) lol dual vs single can have an impact, any background software running? RGB software like synapse or corsair anything like that? if so disable them and restart try the benchmarks again

On this picture you can see everything from current to minimum to maximum and average values.
I took this picture while running the cinebench.

[DANK_AS_gay]

37 minutes ago, picipuni23 said:

So what parts of the components could cause bad power delivery that i should check?

The motherboard. That's why I said it could be a potential issue. 

[Ripred]

5 minutes ago, picipuni23 said:

On this picture you can see everything from current to minimum to maximum and average values.
I took this picture while running the cinebench.

Thats just the cpu, what are the main board voltages, 12v 5v etc?

[picipuni23]

5 minutes ago, Ripred said:

Thats just the cpu, what are the main board voltages, 12v 5v etc?

 

[picipuni23]

20 minutes ago, picipuni23 said:

 

My friend got the same results

[Ripred]

29 minutes ago, picipuni23 said:

 

Not the board voltages then, they look great, somany people have severe drop in the 12v totally un aware of it and if that drops tomuch it can crate all kinds of issues making one go crazy trying to track down the problem...

Any those look good so no prob BUT

 

This is a little much...not devastating or damaging but possibly just enough to cause a thermal throttle, if I remember

right this chip will hard throttle at 90c and I can say from experience my chip doesn't go over 82c with a coolermaster 212 evo, your artic freezer duo should be able to finish the cinebench run at similar temperature, id redo the thermal paste, spread it even and take care to make sure mounting pressure is even 

 

[picipuni23]

2 minutes ago, Ripred said:

Not the board voltages then, they look great, somany people have severe drop in the 12v totally un aware of it and if that drops tomuch it can crate all kinds of issues making one go crazy trying to track down the problem...

Any those look good so no prob BUT

 

This is a little much...not devastating or damaging but possibly just enough to cause a thermal throttle, if I remember

right this chip will hard throttle at 90c and I can say from experience my chip doesn't go over 82c with a coolermaster 212 evo, your artic freezer duo should be able to finish the cinebench run at similar temperature, id redo the thermal paste, spread it even and take care to make sure mounting pressure is even 

 

The temp was never that high in any game for me and even for my friend, we both using the same cooler, it never goes above 80-82, im talking about unlocked fps and 100% value set in power plan.
 

[picipuni23]

13 minutes ago, Ripred said:

Not the board voltages then, they look great, somany people have severe drop in the 12v totally un aware of it and if that drops tomuch it can crate all kinds of issues making one go crazy trying to track down the problem...

Any those look good so no prob BUT

 

This is a little much...not devastating or damaging but possibly just enough to cause a thermal throttle, if I remember

right this chip will hard throttle at 90c and I can say from experience my chip doesn't go over 82c with a coolermaster 212 evo, your artic freezer duo should be able to finish the cinebench run at similar temperature, id redo the thermal paste, spread it even and take care to make sure mounting pressure is even 

 

The only difference in our pcs is the PS and the gpu, 3070 > 2070super, cooler master mwe bronze v2 "750w" > gigabyte p650b "650w"
He literally gets worse results in benchmarks of caurse, but his pc runs everything but mine is literally cant handle a dyinglight2 above 70fps lol

                                                         

[picipuni23]

20 minutes ago, Ripred said:

Not the board voltages then, they look great, somany people have severe drop in the 12v totally un aware of it and if that drops tomuch it can crate all kinds of issues making one go crazy trying to track down the problem...

Any those look good so no prob BUT

 

This is a little much...not devastating or damaging but possibly just enough to cause a thermal throttle, if I remember

right this chip will hard throttle at 90c and I can say from experience my chip doesn't go over 82c with a coolermaster 212 evo, your artic freezer duo should be able to finish the cinebench run at similar temperature, id redo the thermal paste, spread it even and take care to make sure mounting pressure is even 

 

What about the gpu?

[picipuni23]

8 minutes ago, picipuni23 said:

The only difference in our pcs is the PS and the gpu, 3070 > 2070super, cooler master mwe bronze v2 "750w" > gigabyte p650b "650w"
He literally gets worse results in benchmarks of caurse, but his pc runs everything but mine is literally cant handle a dyinglight2 above 70fps lol

                                                         

Cpu heavy games actually run pretty good for example valorant, fortnite etc.  I get the framerates that  i should. The most noticable performance issue as i said  is in dyinglight2, cyberpunk, where i barely get 60fps.