First Time Builder…where to start

[clive89268]

Budget (including currency): $1000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Games: more rpg/open world type, Assassin’s Creed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, etc, some Minecraft, Roblox

 

Work: general Microsoft and Google Suite work. May need lots of tabs open in Chrome

 

Other details: I don’t really have anything. It’s more the idea of I want to build this semi as a hobby…but we also kinda need a computer better than the Chromebook we have. I honestly don’t know where to start. Like what CPU to start with that does what we want…but then that leads to a motherboard that’s compatible. Obviously, I can just go to partpicker and it’ll show compatibility, but again, I’m brand new to this “world” and would love some feedback. 

 

[Gokul_P]

1 hour ago, clive89268 said:

Budget (including currency): $1000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Games: more rpg/open world type, Assassin’s Creed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, etc, some Minecraft, Roblox

 

Work: general Microsoft and Google Suite work. May need lots of tabs open in Chrome

 

Other details: I don’t really have anything. It’s more the idea of I want to build this semi as a hobby…but we also kinda need a computer better than the Chromebook we have. I honestly don’t know where to start. Like what CPU to start with that does what we want…but then that leads to a motherboard that’s compatible. Obviously, I can just go to partpicker and it’ll show compatibility, but again, I’m brand new to this “world” and would love some feedback. 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vZmTTn

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($159.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($97.89 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 700 GD 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1106.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-28 11:11 EST-0500

 

[PDifolco]

1 hour ago, clive89268 said:

Budget (including currency): $1000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Games: more rpg/open world type, Assassin’s Creed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, etc, some Minecraft, Roblox

 

Work: general Microsoft and Google Suite work. May need lots of tabs open in Chrome

 

Other details: I don’t really have anything. It’s more the idea of I want to build this semi as a hobby…but we also kinda need a computer better than the Chromebook we have. I honestly don’t know where to start. Like what CPU to start with that does what we want…but then that leads to a motherboard that’s compatible. Obviously, I can just go to partpicker and it’ll show compatibility, but again, I’m brand new to this “world” and would love some feedback. 

 

Does budget includes monitor & peripherals ? Because then $1000 is a bit tight

 

Edit : PCBuilder Jason just suggested a $660 1440p build, you still have $340 for monitor and KB/M !

 

 

[Queen Chrysalis]

50 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vFHMY9

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($159.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($97.89 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *EVGA 550 B5 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.35 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1136.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-28 09:55 EST-0500

Not to be a jerk, but there's a lot wrong with this in terms of budget efficiency and just general configuration.  Like, not very good at all. 

• 5600X over 5600 when they are identical CPUs in literally every way other than base clock, which is completely meaningless stat as they both boost to the same frequency.
• Non wifi/BT board when boards with wifi/BT of the same quality can be had for the same price.
• 1TB gen 3 media production SSD for $100 when a 2TB gen 4 gaming SSD can be had for $10 more
• $16GB or RAM for more than 32GB of RAM of the same spec.
• Case is OK but you can get similar ones cheaper that include more fans
• Absolutely insanely overpriced cooler for it's spec.  You can get  the best coolers out there for less than that, or a similar one for $20.
• That PSU is barely enough for a 6700xt, and TBH i wouldn't want an EVGA B5 driven that hard.  No OC headroom.  It's also way overpriced when better PSUs are much cheaper.

This would be a significantly better ysstem in every way for less:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($134.86 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.89 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($65.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 700 GD 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $985.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-28 10:40 EST-0500

[turbotoddl3r]

10 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Not to be a jerk, but there's a lot wrong with this in terms of budget efficiency and just general configuration.  Like, not very good at all. 

• 5600X over 5600 when they are identical CPUs in literally every way other than base clock, which is completely meaningless stat as they both boost to the same frequency.
• Non wifi/BT board when boards with wifi/BT of the same quality can be had for the same price.
• 1TB gen 3 media production SSD for $100 when a 2TB gen 4 gaming SSD can be had for $10 more
• $16GB or RAM for more than 32GB of RAM of the same spec.
• Case is OK but you can get similar ones cheaper that include more fans
• Absolutely insanely overpriced cooler for it's spec.  You can get  the best coolers out there for less than that, or a similar one for $20.
• That PSU is barely enough for a 6700xt, and TBH i wouldn't want an EVGA B5 driven that hard.  No OC headroom.  It's also way overpriced when better PSUs are much cheaper.

This would be a significantly better ysstem in every way for less:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($134.86 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.89 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($65.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 700 GD 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $985.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-28 10:40 EST-0500

Does that SSD have DRAM cache?

[Queen Chrysalis]

1 minute ago, turbotoddl3r said:

Does that SSD have DRAM cache?

No, doesn't need one for the grand majority of users.  And definitely not worth the premium you pay for then now that DRAMless gen 4 2TBs can be had for $110.

[Gokul_P]

1 minute ago, turbotoddl3r said:

Does that SSD have DRAM cache?

Nope it perform worse than Samsung. Samsung drives aren't great or anything but it is the most reliable 

 

[Queen Chrysalis]

2 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

Nope it perform worse than Samsung. Samsung drives aren't great or anything but it is the most reliable 

 

What makes them more reliable, and what kind of R/W speed improvements on gen 3 or gen 4 NVMe are going to translate into any kind of noticeable difference in real world performance?  What makes Kingston less relaible?  

[turbotoddl3r]

2 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

No, doesn't need one for the grand majority of users.  And definitely not worth the premium you pay for then now that DRAMless gen 4 2TBs can be had for $110.

A gen 3 drive with DRAM cache is a better purchase than a gen 4 drive that lacks it

[Queen Chrysalis]

Just now, turbotoddl3r said:

A gen 3 drive with DRAM cache is a better purchase than a gen 4 drive that lacks it

For double the price per gigabyte?  Why?  What does that turn into in real world performance?  Because having twice as much space while still being too fast to tell the difference seems like a very real benefit.

[turbotoddl3r]

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

For double the price per gigabyte?  Why?  What does that turn into in real world performance?  Because having twice as much space while still being too fast to tell the difference seems like a very real benefit.

Overall responsiveness will be better due to an increase in random read/write speed on a drive with DRAM cache. Linus himself says that a drive without DRAM cache can perform slower than a HDD. Not to mention the shorter lifespan of a DRAMless drive 

[Gokul_P]

27 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Not to be a jerk, but there's a lot wrong with this in terms of budget efficiency and just general configuration.  Like, not very good at all. 

• 5600X over 5600 when they are identical CPUs in literally every way other than base clock, which is completely meaningless stat as they both boost to the same frequency.
• Non wifi/BT board when boards with wifi/BT of the same quality can be had for the same price.
• 1TB gen 3 media production SSD for $100 when a 2TB gen 4 gaming SSD can be had for $10 more
• $16GB or RAM for more than 32GB of RAM of the same spec.
• Case is OK but you can get similar ones cheaper that include more fans
• Absolutely insanely overpriced cooler for it's spec.  You can get  the best coolers out there for less than that, or a similar one for $20.
• That PSU is barely enough for a 6700xt, and TBH i wouldn't want an EVGA B5 driven that hard.  No OC headroom.  It's also way overpriced when better PSUs are much cheaper.

This would be a significantly better ysstem in every way for less:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($134.86 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.89 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($65.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 700 GD 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $985.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-28 10:40 EST-0500

1. 5600X does have more boost clock to be precise the 5600 is  4.4 GHz and 5600X is 4.6 GHz

2. Yes thats a mistake that i made i changed it now

3. No dram cache. AND to be clear Samsung SSds are overpriced but they last a lot longer. PCIE gen 4 isnt going to add any performance and Kingston isnt known for making reliable drives they are known for making cheap drives  so i would avoid cheap drives at all cost. At least pickup something from WD or Micron  

4. Good 16gb kit is fine for most people

5. i choose a Good case bcz he can upgrade down the line even generational updates wouldnt be a problem for 4000D and not to mention the good airflow

6. good cooler doent harm anyone and that cheap cooler make hell of lot noice and possibly thermal throttle that cpu . I prefer NH D15 But he isnt have that budget so i just choose the 2nd best hyper 212 

7.Dont think it does but i updated that too and it will help for modern Gpus

[Queen Chrysalis]

32 minutes ago, turbotoddl3r said:

Overall responsiveness will be better due to an increase in random read/write speed on a drive with DRAM cache. Linus himself says that a drive without DRAM cache can perform slower than a HDD. Not to mention the shorter lifespan of a DRAMless drive 

Performs slower...  ...at what?  Sustained 4k writes of a terabyte of info?  Sure fine, no one does that outside of people who know they need to do that.  Responsiveness, noticeably?  All 3 of my systems have DRAMless SSDs and they seem to operate at the speed of a click to the naked eye.  Any improvements in responsiveness would be negligible.  Shorter lifespan?  In terms of rated R/W durability?  Bosh are still thousands of terabytes, most users never even come close to hitting that.

 

31 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

5600X does have more boost clock to be precise the 5600 is  4.4 GHz and 5600X is 4.6 GHz

They OC to the same speed, and the boost clock almost never hits max anyway.  Under identical cooling, the avg boost clock in any given task will be about the same, as the boost clock is entirely about what the CPU can maintain under heat, so scheduled clocks like that mean very little.  Especially since in games, they aren't usually boosting higher than 4.2 anyway.  

31 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

Kingston isnt known for making reliable drives they are known for making cheap drives

By who?  They're one of the oldest OEMs out there and their stuff is in everything.  There isn't a lot to be lost with the manufacturi9ng process for NVMes, they all pretty much work as a spec sheet would have them work, and failure isa crapshoot with pretty much any brand at this point.  It's still warrantied.

31 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

. Good 16gb kit is fine for most people

But paying more for half the RAM of the same spec justifies this?

31 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

good cooler doent harm anyone and that cheap cooler make hell of lot noice and possibly thermal throttle that cpu . I prefer NH D15 But he isnt have that budget so i just choose the 2nd best hyper 212 

That comments is so stupid I don't even know where to start with it.  Do you ever read?

 

There are like 4 other coolers now that match the D15 in terms of noise and tdp for half the cost, so it's not even a good buy anymore, and the hyper 212 is a basic 4-pipe 120.  Those can be had for $18-$25 and it being made by cooler master makes no difference.  For $90 that's asinine.  

 

Cheap coolers aren't loud anymore.  Even the stock coolers make a littel noise but not much.  For a 65w CPU, any aftermarket cooler is gonna be very quiet.  Look at noise testing, don't just pull that shit out of your ass.  The difference between a TR assassin X and a hyper 212 is negligible if it exists at all.  And a TR Peerless Assassin 120 ($35 is quieter than both under any load and has more than double the rated tdp.  None of the coolers mentioned would even come close to thermal throttling on a 5600 or 5600x.  Most of the cooling performance comes down to how many heatpipes there are (no one is making 'special' heatpipes, it's a basic thing) how many fins are on the radiator, and the size and blade pitch of the fans.  Noise is mostly about bearing type, and almost everyone uses FDB or rifle bearings, which are quiet.  None of that is rocket science, and any manufacture can do it easily.

31 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

Dont think it does but i updated that too and it will help for modern Gpus

Why did you even post that in the first place?  $90 for a 550w B5?  Di you even look at prices for what was available?  In what world is that even a remotely good buy?

[Gokul_P]

8 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

By who?  They're one of the oldest OEMs out there and their stuff is in everything.  There isn't a lot to be lost with the manufacturi9ng process for NVMes, they all pretty much work as a spec sheet would have them work, and failure isa crapshoot with pretty much any brand at this point.  It's still warrantied.

My laptop comes with a Kingston drive and it failed after 6 months now using a Crucial P3 Plus. and i had multiple thumbdrives from them also failed so i personally dont trust my  data hold by a cheap SSD even they are around since the start. 

13 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

But paying more for half the RAM of the same spec justifies this?

Yeah when corsair Uses a much better Dram made by Samsung (some sources say SK Hynix both make good chips) rather than a Chinese company ChangXin Memory Technologies. 

 

25 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

There are like 4 other coolers now that match the D15 in terms of noise and tdp for half the cost, so it's not even a good buy anymore, and the hyper 212 is a basic 4-pipe 120.  Those can be had for $18-$25 and it being made by cooler master makes no difference.  For $90 that's asinine.  

There will be cheaper ones but reliability is much better with Cooler master. If They can prove these cheap ones are reliable as the high end ones sure i would suggest the cheap ones until then i would have to suggest one made from good brands . 

34 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Performs slower...  ...at what?  Sustained 4k writes of a terabyte of info?  Sure fine, no one does that outside of people who know they need to do that.  Responsiveness, noticeably?  All 3 of my systems have DRAMless SSDs and they seem to operate at the speed of a click to the naked eye.  Any improvements in responsiveness would be negligible.  Shorter lifespan?  In terms of rated R/W durability?  Bosh are still thousands of terabytes, most users never even come close to hitting that.

D ram less SSDs storing the map directly to the NAND flash means more wear and tear on the memory cells. Regrettably, his can significantly decrease the SSD’s life span. Dram less SSDs aren't bad or anything the one you suggested is not good, i have multiple dram less and Dram SSDs even though i can feel the change not everybody cant. Performance is not why i recommended the Samsung drive it is for more reliability. if you don't mind losing data in my case i don't I have a Nas  but Op don't have a Nas He is new to the Pc world and after 5-6 months losing all the data is worth saving half the cost then go for it i did multiple times my pc doesn't have a Dram SSD WD green is a dram less SSD  P3 the boot drive in my laptop also don't have a Dram Both are from reliable brands . and the green served me 8K hours well with 80% life left. my Nas uses a dram SSD bcz it does caching and i don't want to loose any data and it is Samsung  

[clive89268]

Hahaha quite the fiery conversation. I appreciate the start 

[Queen Chrysalis]

11 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

There will be cheaper ones but reliability is much better with Cooler master. If They can prove these cheap ones are reliable as the high end ones sure i would suggest the cheap ones until then i would have to suggest one made from good brands . 

1 hour ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

reliability with an air cooler.... for what?  What is going to break on a piece of copper with a fan?  For $90 really?

 

[clive89268]

I also already have a mouse and keyboard, and monitor I’m not super worried about at this point. 

[Gokul_P]

19 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

reliability with an air cooler.... for what?  What is going to break on a piece of copper with a fan?  For $90 really?

 

If the 19$ perfomes 100% identical to 100 doller one whats the qwerk. For not a failure point buying a great one now  he can basically use it in all the future builds without any hassle.

[Gokul_P]

13 minutes ago, clive89268 said:

I also already have a mouse and keyboard, and monitor I’m not super worried about at this point. 

You alrady have a monitor whats the resolution on that

[clive89268]

2 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

You alrady have a monitor whats the resolution on that

I don’t have one, but I’m more confident in finding something later vs building this where I have zero experience 

[Queen Chrysalis]

Just now, Gokul_P said:

If the 19$ perfomes 100% identical to 100 doller one whats the qwerk.

MY GOOD SIR you are unbelievable.  Is it possible to overprice something?  Look at almost all of the 4-pipe 120 air coolers on the market.  They are almost all $18-$25.  There is nothing special about the heat pipes or fans cooler master uses.  They just know that the hyper 212's name got thrown around on forums alot over the last decade, so they can sell it for more and uninformed consumers like you will buy it because you recognize the name.  Look at performance data on any cooler out there and you'll see that there are hundred s of cheaper coolers that perform better.  There is NOTHING that will fail on an air cooler unless a fan blad breaks or a bearing fails, and nothing cooler master does with their plastic fans and OEM sourced rifle bearings will work any differently than a competing brand.  It is $90 because it is out of stock on normal retailers, so some reseller has it at an AI generated price of $90 to fish for whales (suckers).  ReLiAbIlTy has nothing to do with it.  It's a very basic thing that will never break regardless of 'GoOd BrAnDs'.

[clive89268]

2 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Not to be a jerk, but there's a lot wrong with this in terms of budget efficiency and just general configuration.  Like, not very good at all. 

• 5600X over 5600 when they are identical CPUs in literally every way other than base clock, which is completely meaningless stat as they both boost to the same frequency.
• Non wifi/BT board when boards with wifi/BT of the same quality can be had for the same price.
• 1TB gen 3 media production SSD for $100 when a 2TB gen 4 gaming SSD can be had for $10 more
• $16GB or RAM for more than 32GB of RAM of the same spec.
• Case is OK but you can get similar ones cheaper that include more fans
• Absolutely insanely overpriced cooler for it's spec.  You can get  the best coolers out there for less than that, or a similar one for $20.
• That PSU is barely enough for a 6700xt, and TBH i wouldn't want an EVGA B5 driven that hard.  No OC headroom.  It's also way overpriced when better PSUs are much cheaper.

This would be a significantly better ysstem in every way for less:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($134.86 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.89 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($65.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Zalman S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 700 GD 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $985.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-28 10:40 EST-0500

This looks good, but this warning comes up. Is that something easily dealt with?
 

Warning: The Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version F15. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

[Queen Chrysalis]

3 minutes ago, clive89268 said:

This looks good, but this warning comes up. Is that something easily dealt with?
 

Warning: The Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version F15. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

Nah, when the 5000 chips were new and the b550 chipset was still being made for the 3000 chips, some of the older ones needed a bios flash for compatability.  That was a 2 years ago, and nothing still in stock today is gonna have that issue.  That warning is old news.  Hell, even some of the outdated bios would still work with 5000 anyways. 

 

But really, nothing you buy today has been on the shelf for more than a couple months.  You'd have to be getting one that was 2+ years old for it to ship with an unsupported bios.  And that's the revision (V2) of the aorus b550, so it can't be more than like a year old, well after ryzen 5000 was mainstream.

[Gokul_P]

2 minutes ago, clive89268 said:

This looks good, but this warning comes up. Is that something easily dealt with?
 

Warning: The Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version F15. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

The bios version in this is prob relesead 2 years ago and possibly comes with all the ones manufacturerd after that so not really need to worry but dont cheap out on stuff like that after like 6 months half of the stuff will fail 

[Queen Chrysalis]

10 minutes ago, Gokul_P said:

after like 6 months half of the stuff will fail 

Wow, jesus christ dude. If that were the case al of those companies would be out of business from bleeding cash on RMA claims.  That's such a ridiculous thing to say.  If that were the case no one would buy any of that stuff ever and they'd all have 1 star ratings on amazon.  Do you really think these ghuge manufactures don't know how to making a working product to industry spec?  This isn't cheap clothing at a flea market, these are mature Manufacuring firms that have been doing this for 25-50 years with highly educated engineers designing products that really, do a very simple thing the exact same way as their peers.  Basic Dell PCs from 2010 still work the same as they did the day they were new (save for going slower on new software, but performing the same as they did with software that was around when they were new) and most of them used way crappier mobos, stock coolers, and the cheapest RAM you could get.  Computers from the 90s will still turn on and boot up, and for the most part will run fine with the software that was normal for the time.