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The raw performance of these GPUs is close to an RTX 3060. How old of a CPU are you going to use? Not the type of graphics card I would pair with an i5-4450

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If it's old enough to not support resizable BAR(intel 10th gen and newer or most Ryzen 3xxx and newer), then the graphics card is going to be at a major disadvantage. 

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5 minutes ago, Gold_Glitch said:

is it a770 , a750 good for old cpu?

How old we talking? The biggest factor for this is you need to have Resizeable BAR support on your board, but most motherboards older than 10th gen don't have BIOS support for it, and I'm not aware of any older than 8th gen that have support either. Without rebar performance is something like 25% worse, and you would be better off with an RX 6600 XT 

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23 hours ago, RONOTHAN## said:

How old we talking? The biggest factor for this is you need to have Resizeable BAR support on your board, but most motherboards older than 10th gen don't have BIOS support for it, and I'm not aware of any older than 8th gen that have support either. Without rebar performance is something like 25% worse, and you would be better off with an RX 6600 XT 

well i have a i5-4690k 4.4 so i better go with 6600 or . im planing upg cpu in future . but for now im wil upgrade gpu  . 6600 (a770,a750) or i should go lower gpu

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23 hours ago, 8tg said:

As someone who has both an A380 and 16gb A770, you need a modern platform for these cards.

Even if the cpu has the capability to perform well with a gpu of their tier, ie an i7 7700K is plenty for the A380 being similar to a 6gb gtx 1060, without resizable bar the performance is nearly cut in half. 
 

If you don’t have resizable bar support you’re better off getting a different gpu. However if you do have it… ehh honestly I would avoid arc unless you wanted it just to have an intel gpu. They still have some software problems even with recent updates fixing the directX 9 problems somewhat. For practical purposes you’re better off buying nvidia or amd.

(i5 4690k 4.4) well i think my cpu dont have that

 resizable bar 

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3 minutes ago, Gold_Glitch said:

well i have a i5-4690k 4.4 so i better go with 6600 or . im planing upg cpu in future . but for now im wil upgrade gpu  . 6600 (a770,a750) or i should go lower gpu

A 6600 XT is the better option. Its only downside compared to the A770 is the RT performance, but in basically everything else it's better with significantly more stable drivers. If you're upgrading the CPU at the same time, then maybe consider it, but Arc cards like that are realistically only for hardware enthusiasts who just want to have an Intel GPU for the sake of having Intel's first GPU. If you plan on actually using it in your main system, get an RX 6600 XT/6650 XT, odds are it's actually cheaper as well. 

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6 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

A 6600 XT is the better option. Its only downside compared to the A770 is the RT performance, but in basically everything else it's better with significantly more stable drivers. If you're upgrading the CPU at the same time, then maybe consider it, but Arc cards like that are realistically only for hardware enthusiasts who just want to have an Intel GPU for the sake of having Intel's first GPU. If you plan on actually using it in your main system, get an RX 6600 XT/6650 XT, odds are it's actually cheaper as well. 

no at same time. if i can ask you do you know how much bottleneck will be if  i go with 6600 (xt) or 6650 (xt)

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1 minute ago, Gold_Glitch said:

no at same time. if i can ask you do you know how much bottleneck will be if  i go with 6600 (xt) or 6650 (xt)

That depends on what games you plan on playing and how CPU bound they are. AMD cards tend to have relatively little driver overhead, so they can get away with some relatively mediocre GPUs, but at the same time a 4690K being only 4 threads really brings down performance in a lot of modern games. 

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2 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

That depends on what games you plan on playing and how CPU bound they are. AMD cards tend to have relatively little driver overhead, so they can get away with some relatively mediocre GPUs, but at the same time a 4690K being only 4 threads really brings down performance in a lot of modern games. 

im play this games.hunt showdown , pubg , warzone 2
i have 1050ti and i'm  upgrade to 6600 , 5700 or 1070. 99% of games my gpu its at 100% my cpu 80% 90%.that's the biggest problem for me that it"s a 4t

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Gold_Glitch said:

im play this games.hunt showdown , pubg , warzone 2
i have 1050ti and i'm  upgrade to 6600 , 5700 or 1070. 99% of games my gpu its at 100% my cpu 80% 90%.that's the biggest problem for me that it"s a 4t

 

 

Yeah, it sounds like you're gonna be better off saving up till you can just upgrade both the CPU and GPU at the same time. You aren't gonna get that much more performance out of a GPU upgrade since you'll end up pretty CPU bound. 

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5 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Yeah, it sounds like you're gonna be better off saving up till you can just upgrade both the CPU and GPU at the same time. You aren't gonna get that much more performance out of a GPU upgrade since you'll end up pretty CPU bound. 

thanks for help. yes better save money and upgrade all.

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