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I'm building a PC, spec:

Intel Core i5 13600K / 1700 Tray

CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2 Liquid Cooler

DDR 5 16G/5200 CL38 XPG Lancer RGB A-DATA

CoolerMaster MWE 650W 230V-V2 80+ Bronze

Inno3D GeForce RTX 3060 TWIN X2

Samsung SSD 1TBGB 980 NVMe M.2

Gigabyte B660 AORUS MASTER

 

Should i switch to Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ULTRA?

I not buying to OC the CPU.

Will it impact the performance if i use B660?

 

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It might limit your ability to overclock, but it shouldn’t hurt base performance.

 

B660 just comes with reduced features compared to Z690. Look at what features you need and select the board that has those features whilst being the cheap.

 

as a side note, I’d go DDR4 and upgrade later if I were you. Much cheaper and the performance gap isn’t worth it yet.

 

I would also suggest a higher power PSU so you have room to upgrade later.

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22 minutes ago, TorenX™ said:

I'm building a PC, spec:

Intel Core i5 13600K / 1700 Tray

CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2 Liquid Cooler

DDR 5 16G/5200 CL38 XPG Lancer RGB A-DATA

CoolerMaster MWE 650W 230V-V2 80+ Bronze

Inno3D GeForce RTX 3060 TWIN X2

Samsung SSD 1TBGB 980 NVMe M.2

Gigabyte B660 AORUS MASTER

 

Should i switch to Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ULTRA?

I not buying to OC the CPU.

Will it impact the performance if i use B660?

 

if zou dont want to OC, its the same as Z690

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6 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

It might limit your ability to overclock, but it shouldn’t hurt base performance.

 

B660 just comes with reduced features compared to Z690. Look at what features you need and select the board that has those features whilst being the cheap.

 

as a side note, I’d go DDR4 and upgrade later if I were you. Much cheaper and the performance gap isn’t worth it yet.

 

I would also suggest a higher power PSU so you have room to upgrade later.

The thing about going DDR4 is that you need to purchase a new board ( and ram) to switch to DDR5, so if 16gb is enough for you, just go DDR5

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If you don't plan to OC then liquid cooling is not needed. Here is build if you are in USA. 6700 XT kills the 3060.

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CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($308.76 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.36 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($52.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($409.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BM2 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1269.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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  • 2014 Build --> FX 8350 4.7GHz {} ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer {} Reference GTX 980 4GB {} 2x4GB 1866MHz HyperX {} Seagate 2TB 7200rpm {} 840 EVO 120GB {} XFX PRO850W {} Noctua NH D14 {} Fractal Define R4 White Windowed
  • 2018 Build --> Ryzen 7 2700X {} ASRock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 {} Gigabyte RTX 2070 8GB {} 2x8GB HX Fury 3200MHz {} Toshiba P300 2TB {} Kingston 480GB A1000 {} Corsair RM750W {} Enermax LIQMAX II 240 {} Fractal Focus G
  • 2021 Build --> Ryzen 9 5900X {} ASUS ROG Strix X570-F GAMING {} ASUS GeForce RTX 3080Ti ROG STRIX OC {} Gigabyte AORUS RGB DDR4 32GB {} Kingston KC2500 M.2 2280 NVMe 2TB {} Seasonic FOCUS GX-1000 {} ASUS ROG Ryujin 240 AIO {} NYXT H710i
  • 2026 Build --> Ryzen 9 9950X3D {} ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO {} ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 32GB ASTRAL LC {} G.Skill TridentZ Royal Neo RGB Silver DDR5 CL28 6000MHz 2x16GB {} Samsung SSD 4TB 9100 PRO M.2 {} Seasonic 1600W PRIME TX Noctua Edition {} Fractal Lumen S36 V2 RGB 360mm AIO {} Fractal Design North XL Charcoal
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32 minutes ago, Attilavsq said:

The thing about going DDR4 is that you need to purchase a new board ( and ram) to switch to DDR5, so if 16gb is enough for you, just go DDR5

The thing about going 13th gen is you'll need to upgrade the motherboard anyway if you want a 14th gen later.

You'll also likely need faster DDR5 to get full benefit out of that upgrade.  So there's drawbacks either way.

 

If you're talking flexibility of upgrading to faster hardware then Ryzen AM5 is the way to go anyway.  If you want the fastest for gaming today with no room to really upgrade, then 13th gen it is.

I think anyone buying 13th gen right now needs to seriously consider if they will have buyers remorse in six months time if the Ryzen 7000X3D chips come out and murder 13th gen on gaming performance, which seems highly likely.

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47 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

as a side note, I’d go DDR4 and upgrade later if I were you. Much cheaper and the performance gap isn’t worth it yet.

 

I would also suggest a higher power PSU so you have room to upgrade later.

^^^

Buying ddr5 purely for performance is retarded, you buy ddr5 either because you are forced to (am5) or futureproofing (any 5200c28, 5600c30/28, or 6000c32/30) so youll wanna target hynix m die or a die ram ics for ~7200 (m die) or 8000+ (a die) freq later on when platforms start needing the speed so you can basically ride out ddr5 gen with a kit that you buy now and upgrade kit later when ddr6 comes around

 

Yes definitely buy a 750 or 850w psu to futureproof the build, though dont get ripped off by stupid overpriced psus (looking at you corsair rmx)

 

1 hour ago, TorenX™ said:

I'm building a PC, spec:

Intel Core i5 13600K / 1700 Tray

CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2 Liquid Cooler

DDR 5 16G/5200 CL38 XPG Lancer RGB A-DATA

CoolerMaster MWE 650W 230V-V2 80+ Bronze

Inno3D GeForce RTX 3060 TWIN X2

Samsung SSD 1TBGB 980 NVMe M.2

Gigabyte B660 AORUS MASTER

What country?

What uses?

 

6700xt trounces the 3060 but you really should be buying used gpus since used 6800 is the same price as a new 6700/3070 and used 3090 is the same price as a new 3080/6900xt. Its stupid not to take advantage of the 150$+ discount you get when used buying higher end (6800 and above) gpus

 

that ddr5 is trash bin thatll come with garbage micron a die that wont do more than 5500 so as soon as you upgrade to the next platform youll immedeatly have to swap ram kits whereas the aformentioned futureproof bins with hynix m/a die just overclock them as the platforms start demanding faster and faster ram

 

Any dual tower aircooler will crush that aio in cooling performance

 

And samsung ssds are usually terribly priced, you can usually get high end (3000+ mb/s) gen3 nvmes with dram cache like silicon power a80, team mp34, lexar nm620, etc. For the same price or straight up cheaper than a crappy dramless 980

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5 hours ago, TorenX™ said:

I'm building a PC, spec:

Intel Core i5 13600K / 1700 Tray

CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2 Liquid Cooler

DDR 5 16G/5200 CL38 XPG Lancer RGB A-DATA

CoolerMaster MWE 650W 230V-V2 80+ Bronze

Inno3D GeForce RTX 3060 TWIN X2

Samsung SSD 1TBGB 980 NVMe M.2

Gigabyte B660 AORUS MASTER

 

Should i switch to Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ULTRA?

I not buying to OC the CPU.

Will it impact the performance if i use B660?

 

 

I would suggest an a Z790 motherboard if possible. If not get a Z690 motherboard. While not strictly necessary, a Z series mother will improve resale value.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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