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15 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

IIRC the 9700k was basically and 9900k with the hyperthreading disabled right?  So moving to a 9900k will give OP about a 70% increase in performance?

You won't see a 70% difference. Most games doesn't scale with HT very well. Also if OP is getting 1440p display = less cpu bottleneck and even less of a difference going to 9900k.

@ZazaMaza123Get a 1440p display first. See how it runs. If you can get good offer on a 9900k, you can get that but don't pay too much. Then you'll be better off saving for a new CPU, motherboard and ram depending on what you choose.

So i recently upgraded from 2060 super to a 4080 16 gb . Bought a new 850 W 80+ platinum supply for it . Booted with the new card , installed the latese nvidia driver ( used the clean install to uninstall the old driver files and cofing) . 
Booted later Cod Warzone 2 , video setting i made them competitive for more fps and the most iam getting is 120 fps , in gulag only it goes to 160 +. Playing in 1080p resolution 144 hz monitor . Tried also for the game to optimize it self , and it put everything to ultra it runs but like its not utilizing the card . The game runs perfectly smooth as compared to older card and more vibrant collort .. What could be the problem or is the card to strong 
 

My pc specs are : 

asus prime z390-p motherboard

core i7-9700 3.00ghz

Ram: 2x8 gb dual chanel memory with xmp profile to 3000 MZh
Nvme ssd Samsung 860
CORSAIR TX-M Series TX850M

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You are severely bottlenecked at 1080p with your combo GPU/CPU.

 

Almost all highend GPU's are bottlenecked by the CPU at 1080P.

 

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@Alinz is right.  Your frame rate is being limited by the CPU.  High refresh rate gaming is more dependent on the CPU than the GPU

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Get a 9900k if you can and switch to a 1440p high refreshrate display is my advice.

 

The 9900k is still a great CPU, and I think will be for some time to come, especially at higher resolution gaming.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Alinz said:

Get a 9900k if you can

IIRC the 9700k was basically and 9900k with the hyperthreading disabled right?  So moving to a 9900k will give OP about a 70% increase in performance?

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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1 minute ago, Alinz said:

Get a 9900k if you can and switch to a 1440p high refreshrate display is my advice.

 

The 9900k is still a great CPU, and I think will be for some time to come, especially at higher resolution gaming.

 

Ok so that's the problem . Do you think i need to also do some overlcoking on the cpu for it to handle it 

 

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3 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

IIRC the 9700k was basically and 9900k with the hyperthreading disabled right?  So moving to a 9900k will give OP about a 70% increase in performance?

Yes, basicly. The 9900k also has a slighly higher boost clock.

 

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Id suggest running it stock first and see what kind of performance you get. Tinkering with it is something you can always do later

8 minutes ago, ZazaMaza123 said:

Ok so that's the problem . Do you think i need to also do some overlcoking on the cpu for it to handle it 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, ZazaMaza123 said:

Do you think i need to also do some overlcoking on the cpu for it to handle it 

Hot chip.  Hot, hot, hot chip the 9900k.  So only if you got the cooling

 

 

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15 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

IIRC the 9700k was basically and 9900k with the hyperthreading disabled right?  So moving to a 9900k will give OP about a 70% increase in performance?

You won't see a 70% difference. Most games doesn't scale with HT very well. Also if OP is getting 1440p display = less cpu bottleneck and even less of a difference going to 9900k.

@ZazaMaza123Get a 1440p display first. See how it runs. If you can get good offer on a 9900k, you can get that but don't pay too much. Then you'll be better off saving for a new CPU, motherboard and ram depending on what you choose.

CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Elite V2 | RAM: G.Skill Aegis 2x16gb 3200 @3600mhz | PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: Red Devil RX 7900XT | Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K | Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout |Storage: MP510 960gb and 860 Evo 500gb | Cooling: CPU: Noctua NH-D15 with one fan

FS in Denmark/EU:

Asus Dual GTX 1060 3GB. Used maximum 4 months total. Looks like new. Card never opened. Give me a price. 

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7 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

You won't see a 70% difference. Most games doesn't scale with HT very well. Also if OP is getting 1440p display = less cpu bottleneck and even less of a difference going to 9900k.

@ZazaMaza123Get a 1440p display first. See how it runs. If you can get good offer on a 9900k, you can get that but don't pay too much. Then you'll be better off saving for a new CPU, motherboard and ram depending on what you choose.

You seem to know the stuff , tnx for explaining  . i might the the display first as for the other parts , i plan to buy something new every month so hopefuly it will be complete . If you have any suggestions for the cpu ( intel preferably ) and motherboard combo let me know 

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7 minutes ago, ZazaMaza123 said:

You seem to know the stuff , tnx for explaining  . i might the the display first as for the other parts , i plan to buy something new every month so hopefuly it will be complete . If you have any suggestions for the cpu ( intel preferably ) and motherboard combo let me know 

Just bear in mind OP that your frame rate will not increase moving to a 1440p display.  Which is what your original inquiry was for.  If your CPU can only push 120fps at 1080p then it's not gonna start pushing 140+ at 1440p.  You can even test this before you buy anything by enabling DLDSR in the control panel and selecting the higher resolutions this will make available in game menus.

 

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6 minutes ago, ZazaMaza123 said:

You seem to know the stuff , tnx for explaining  . i might the the display first as for the other parts , i plan to buy something new every month so hopefuly it will be complete . If you have any suggestions for the cpu ( intel preferably ) and motherboard combo let me know 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CM24jZ

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($319.97 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $549.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-16 07:08 EST-0500

 

This board uses ddr4. then you can save on that and get a new ssd instead

CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Elite V2 | RAM: G.Skill Aegis 2x16gb 3200 @3600mhz | PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: Red Devil RX 7900XT | Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K | Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout |Storage: MP510 960gb and 860 Evo 500gb | Cooling: CPU: Noctua NH-D15 with one fan

FS in Denmark/EU:

Asus Dual GTX 1060 3GB. Used maximum 4 months total. Looks like new. Card never opened. Give me a price. 

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3 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CM24jZ

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($319.97 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $549.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-16 07:08 EST-0500

 

This board uses ddr4. then you can save on that and get a new ssd instead

Thanks man .god bless you . 

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On 12/16/2022 at 7:08 AM, DoctorNick said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CM24jZ

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($319.97 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $549.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-16 07:08 EST-0500

 

This board uses ddr4. then you can save on that and get a new ssd instead

So I am also having issues with lower than expected FPS with my new build. I thought I would easily get 200+ FPS on 1080p/144hz. But I am only averaging about 160. What gives? Some say I am bottlenecking cause of my RAM, but I can't find a true consensus. 

 

My specs are:

  • CPU:Intel Core i7-12700KF 12-Core 3.60 GHz

  • GPU:GeForce® RTX™ 4080

  • RAM:Team T-FORCE Delta RGB 3200 MHz 32 GB XMP 2.0 Enabled.

  • Storage:Western Digital Blue SN570 NVMe M.2 SSD 1 TB

  • PSU: XPG Core Reactor, 850W, 80+ Gold

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4 minutes ago, tomtendo said:

So I am also having issues with lower than expected FPS with my new build. I thought I would easily get 200+ FPS on 1080p/144hz. But I am only averaging about 160. What gives? Some say I am bottlenecking cause of my RAM, but I can't find a true consensus. 

 

My specs are:

  • CPU:Intel Core i7-12700KF 12-Core 3.60 GHz

  • GPU:GeForce® RTX™ 4080

  • RAM:Team T-FORCE Delta RGB 3200 MHz 32 GB XMP 2.0 Enabled.

  • Storage:Western Digital Blue SN570 NVMe M.2 SSD 1 TB

  • PSU: XPG Core Reactor, 850W, 80+ Gold

What games are you playing?

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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4 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

What games are you playing?

Talking about Warzone 2. Same as OP

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14 hours ago, SimplyChunk said:

What games are you playing?

Following up on this. I am playing Warzone 2.

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16 hours ago, tomtendo said:

Following up on this. I am playing Warzone 2.

Me too, I just got a new Rtx 4080 and I don't see much of a change about the FPS, with my RTX 3070 I was getting around 120 average fps and now I am getting 135....

I am playing @1440 p

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700KF 8-Core 3.80 GHz

GPU: GeForce® RTX™ 4080

RAM: 32.0GB Dual-Channel unknown @ 1463Mhz (14-18-18-32)
XMP 2.0 Enabled.

Storage: 953 GB INTEL SSD

PSU: CB 1050 W

( all the info I got it from speccy)

I really need help because I don't know what I am doing wrong or what do I need to update. I feel kinda bad for spending a lot of money on a new card and not getting any improvement.

Thanks for your time guys. 

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2 hours ago, Wilson8820 said:

Me too, I just got a new Rtx 4080 and I don't see much of a change about the FPS, with my RTX 3070 I was getting around 120 average fps and now I am getting 135....

I am playing @1440 p

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700KF 8-Core 3.80 GHz

GPU: GeForce® RTX™ 4080

RAM: 32.0GB Dual-Channel unknown @ 1463Mhz (14-18-18-32)
XMP 2.0 Enabled.

Storage: 953 GB INTEL SSD

PSU: CB 1050 W

( all the info I got it from speccy)

I really need help because I don't know what I am doing wrong or what do I need to update. I feel kinda bad for spending a lot of money on a new card and not getting any improvement.

Thanks for your time guys. 

Well i can tell you now it'll be your CPU in this instance.  Maximum frame rate is determined but your CPU more than your GPU.  If you lower your settings to 720p or something similar and the frame rate doesn't increase.  then you know your binding factor is your CPU 

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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On 12/22/2022 at 2:45 AM, tomtendo said:

So I am also having issues with lower than expected FPS with my new build. I thought I would easily get 200+ FPS on 1080p/144hz. But I am only averaging about 160. What gives? Some say I am bottlenecking cause of my RAM, but I can't find a true consensus. 

 

My specs are:

  • CPU:Intel Core i7-12700KF 12-Core 3.60 GHz

  • GPU:GeForce® RTX™ 4080

  • RAM:Team T-FORCE Delta RGB 3200 MHz 32 GB XMP 2.0 Enabled.

  • Storage:Western Digital Blue SN570 NVMe M.2 SSD 1 TB

  • PSU: XPG Core Reactor, 850W, 80+ Gold

Also, you could do this to test.  lower your setting to 720p and see if the framerate increases.  if it doesn't you know you're hitting your maximum CPU framerate cap

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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5 hours ago, SimplyChunk said:

Well i can tell you now it'll be your CPU in this instance.  Maximum frame rate is determined but your CPU more than your GPU.  If you lower your settings to 720p or something similar and the frame rate doesn't increase.  then you know your binding factor is your CPU 

Hi, i just did the test and here are the results:

720p: max FPS 150 and the Gpu is only being use 40 - 45 % average 

1440: max FPS 150 and the Gpu in only being use 55 - 60 % average

I did the benchmark test for call of duty and I got those results.

The test says  i get 205 fps average but I am not seeing that or even close in Warzone.

 

What should I do next? buy a new Cpu and a new motherboard? or do i have other options.

 

Thanks for your time guys.

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Wilson8820 said:

Hi, i just did the test and here are the results:

720p: max FPS 150 and the Gpu is only being use 40 - 45 % average 

1440: max FPS 150 and the Gpu in only being use 55 - 60 % average

I did the benchmark test for call of duty and I got those results.

The test says  i get 205 fps average but I am not seeing that or even close in Warzone.

 

What should I do next? buy a new Cpu and a new motherboard? or do i have other options.

Thanks for your time guys.


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If you want more frames your only option is a CPU upgrade.  Warzone 1.0 always was more heavy on the CPU that MW.  So i'm guessing that'll carry over to Warzone 2.0 and MW2

 With all the Trolls, Try Hards, Noobs and Weirdos around here you'd think i'd find SOMEWHERE to fit in!

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5 hours ago, Wilson8820 said:

Hi, i just did the test and here are the results:

720p: max FPS 150 and the Gpu is only being use 40 - 45 % average 

1440: max FPS 150 and the Gpu in only being use 55 - 60 % average

I did the benchmark test for call of duty and I got those results.

The test says  i get 205 fps average but I am not seeing that or even close in Warzone.

 

What should I do next? buy a new Cpu and a new motherboard? or do i have other options.

 

Thanks for your time guys.

 

 

 

 

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Do you have your render resolution purposely set to 57% ? That will bottleneck the heck out of your cpu

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6 hours ago, Wilson8820 said:

Hi, i just did the test and here are the results:

720p: max FPS 150 and the Gpu is only being use 40 - 45 % average 

1440: max FPS 150 and the Gpu in only being use 55 - 60 % average

I did the benchmark test for call of duty and I got those results.

The test says  i get 205 fps average but I am not seeing that or even close in Warzone.

 

What should I do next? buy a new Cpu and a new motherboard? or do i have other options.

 

Thanks for your time guys.

 

 

 

 

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How'd you get the 3rd screenshot showing benchmark?

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