Am i being bottlenecked

[plasma757]

recently upgraded to a 3080 and a 1440p 165hz monitor to go with it and i am seeing weird behavior. In some games my 3600x will have only 1 or 2 threads nearly maxed out with the gpu sitting at around 50% and i will still hit 165fps without issue. other games will have 6 threads at 50-60% utilization with the gpu still at around 50% and i cant get more than 110-130fps ever with frequent drops down below 100fps, even with the 3600x overclocked to 4.3ghz all core. would an upgrade to something like a 5800x fix this or is 165hz out of reach without the much more expensive upgrade of hopping over to the newest platforms?

[IkeaGnome]

Turn off G sync. In your monitor settings and Nvidia control panel.

Gsync only allows your computer to put out enough frames to match the monitors' refresh rate. You being stuck at 165 fps on a 165 hz monitor sounds like it's on.

[191x7]

22 minutes ago, plasma757 said:

recently upgraded to a 3080 and a 1440p 165hz monitor to go with it and i am seeing weird behavior. In some games my 3600x will have only 1 or 2 threads nearly maxed out with the gpu sitting at around 50% and i will still hit 165fps without issue. other games will have 6 threads at 50-60% utilization with the gpu still at around 50% and i cant get more than 110-130fps ever with frequent drops down below 100fps, even with the 3600x overclocked to 4.3ghz all core. would an upgrade to something like a 5800x fix this or is 165hz out of reach without the much more expensive upgrade of hopping over to the newest platforms?

 

The 3600X does bottleneck the 3080 a bit. You'd have much better with a 5800x3D. Alternatively, you could go with a 5700X but that's not a huge upgrade.

The 5800X3D is a beast, performs on pair with Zen4. Intel Alder Lake and almost close to Raptor Lake.

The 5800X costs noticeably more than the 5700X but their perforamnce is about the same. The 5800x3d with the ton of cache is worth it, it's the strongest gaming zen3 by a large margin.

Also, the nVidia drivers still rely mostly on 1 CPU core for GPU scheduling. That's why one of the cores expereinces that heavy load in your case.

 

8 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Turn off G sync. In your monitor settings and Nvidia control panel.

Gsync only allows your computer to put out enough frames to match the monitors' refresh rate. You being stuck at 165 fps on a 165 hz monitor sounds like it's on.

G-sync does not limit the framerate. With G-sync the framerate can go higher. G-sync just prevents tearing and some stutters IN THE G-SYNC RANGE the monitor has (like 32Hz to 165Hz for example), any frames above 165 could stil tear.

Nvidia fast sync prevents tearing when the framerate exceeds the monitor refresh g-sync range. 

V-sync limits the framerate. It's not the same. Avoid using v-sync.

[Dukesilver27-]

You have to realize CPU usage varies between games, in a very CPU heavy game such as CP2077 or Spider-Man Remastered with RT, I'm sure your 3600x won't be able to keep up. 

3080 is slower than 6800 XT in 1440p, my 12400 is bottlenecking my 6800 XT in the aforementioned games. And 3600x is much slower than than 12400.

So yes, I think your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU. 

I' d say at least get a 5700x, best bet is 5800x3d.

5800x for gaming is not a good buy, performs about the same as 5700x yet much more expensive. 

[Mister Woof]

Yeah, in some games. Mostly it's asking if you are bothered by <80% GPU utilization SOMETIMES, in which case an upgrade will help. But it's not a bottleneck all the time, and in regards to will you be able to feel the difference in a meaningful way....eh

[IkeaGnome]

2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

G-sync does not limit the framerate. With G-sync the framerate can go higher. G-sync just prevents tearing and some stutters IN THE G-SYNC RANGE the monitor has (like 32Hz to 165Hz for example), any frames above 165 could stil tear.

Nvidia fast sync prevents tearing when the framerate exceeds the monitor refresh g-sync range. 

V-sync limits the framerate. It's not the same. Avoid using v-sync.

Too many different dumb similar names to keep them all separated.

[plasma757]

41 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

The 3600X does bottleneck the 3080 a bit. You'd have much better with a 5800x3D. Alternatively, you could go with a 5700X but that's not a huge upgrade.

The 5800X3D is a beast, performs on pair with Zen4. Intel Alder Lake and almost close to Raptor Lake.

The 5800X costs noticeably more than the 5700X but their perforamnce is about the same. The 5800x3d with the ton of cache is worth it, it's the strongest gaming zen3 by a large margin.

5800x3d is great but i really dont want to pay what those are going for right now, guess im just going to have to wait.

[191x7]

4 hours ago, plasma757 said:

5800x3d is great but i really dont want to pay what those are going for right now, guess im just going to have to wait.

Then get the 5700x and wait.