Jump to content

Stuttering Galore

Leadpool

Ryzen 3700x

EVGA 3080

32gb Corsair Vengeance RAM

Corsair MP600 2TB M.2

850w gold PSU

 

My computer is stuttering intermittently and I have no idea how to fix it. I've gone to my wits end trying to figure it out. It happens in games or just browsing the desk top, the mouse will just skip across the screen every 5 seconds or so. I've tried a different mother board, different CPU (switched back to 3700x from 5900x), ran a RAM diagnostic, switched drives, switched BIOS, switch power supply, switched graphics card, all to no avail. CPU and GPU temps are normal and I don't see anything alarming in task manager. It happens on both monitors (one's a 1440 165hz and one's a 1080p 240hz). I have no idea what is going on. I know that AMD released a statement about a TPM bug so I switched to an older BIOS where it was unavailable. I also ran an Offline Defender Scan. No idea. Any insights are appreciated.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Leadpool said:

Ryzen 3700x

EVGA 3080

32gb Corsair Vengeance RAM

Corsair MP600 2TB M.2

850w gold PSU

 

My computer is stuttering intermittently and I have no idea how to fix it. I've gone to my wits end trying to figure it out. It happens in games or just browsing the desk top, the mouse will just skip across the screen every 5 seconds or so. I've tried a different mother board, different CPU (switched back to 3700x from 5900x), ran a RAM diagnostic, switched drives, switched BIOS, switch power supply, switched graphics card, all to no avail. CPU and GPU temps are normal and I don't see anything alarming in task manager. It happens on both monitors (one's a 1440 165hz and one's a 1080p 240hz). I have no idea what is going on. I know that AMD released a statement about a TPM bug so I switched to an older BIOS where it was unavailable. I also ran an Offline Defender Scan. No idea. Any insights are appreciated.

Faulty RAM? That's the only thing you didn't try replacing 

CPU-AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D GPU- RTX 4070 SUPER FE MOBO-ASUS ROG Strix B650E-E Gaming Wifi RAM-32gb G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000cl30 STORAGE-2x1TB Seagate Firecuda 530 PCIE4 NVME PSU-Corsair RM1000x Shift COOLING-EK-AIO 360mm with 3x Lian Li P28 + 4 Lian Li TL120 (Intake) CASE-Phanteks NV5 MONITORS-ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQ 1440p 170hz+Gigabyte G24F 1080p 180hz PERIPHERALS-Lamzu Maya+ 4k Dongle+LGG Saturn Pro Mousepad+Nk65 Watermelon (Tangerine Switches)+Autonomous ErgoChair+ AUDIO-RODE NTH-100+Schiit Magni Heresy+Motu M2 Interface

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

AMD stutters because of an old bug with fTPM. They fixed (or tried too) it in AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.7 so update your bios with that included, should fix it.

CPU: Ryzen 5900x | GPU: RTX 3090 FE | MB: MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon | RAM: 32gb Ballistix | PSU: Corsair RM750 | Cooler: Sythe Fuma 2 | Case: Phanteks P600s | Storage: 2TB WD Black SN 750 & 1TB Sabrent Rocket | OS: Windows 11 Pro & Linux Mint

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, solado said:

AMD stutters because of an old bug with fTPM. They fixed (or tried too) it in AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.7 so update your bios with that included, should fix it.

Did not work. Still persists.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, Leadpool said:

Did not work. Still persists.

That's a shame in that case but it probably is related to that issue.

 

You didn't mention your motherboard model, does the bios notes mention AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.7 ?

You can just disable fTPM if you don't need it but make sure nothing is encrypted if you do. You may miss out on some windows updates though.

 

AMD's official notes:

 

Here are the details in AMD's freshly-issued support document: 

  • This documentation provides information on improving intermittent performance stutter(s) on select PCs running Windows 10 and 11 with Firmware Trusted Platform Module (“fTPM”) enabled. 
  • Issue Description
  • AMD has determined that select AMD Ryzen system configurations may intermittently perform extended fTPM-related memory transactions in SPI flash memory (“SPIROM”) located on the motherboard, which can lead to temporary pauses in system interactivity or responsiveness until the transaction is concluded.
  • Update and Workaround
  • Update: Affected PCs will require a motherboard system BIOS (sBIOS) update containing enhanced modules for fTPM interaction with SPIROM. AMD expects that flashable customer sBIOS files to be available starting in early May, 2022. Exact BIOS availability timing for a specific motherboard depends on the testing and integration schedule of your manufacturer. Flashable updates for motherboards will be based on AMD AGESA 1207 (or newer).
     
  • Workaround: As an immediate solution, affected customers dependent on fTPM functionality for Trusted Platform Module support may instead use a hardware TPM (“dTPM”) device for trusted computing. Platform dTPM modules utilize onboard non-volatile memory (NVRAM) that supersedes the TPM/SPIROM interaction described in this article.
     
    1. COMPATIBILITY: Please check with your system or motherboard manufacturer to ensure that your platform supports add-in dTPM modules before attempting or implementing this workaround.
       
    2. WARNING: If switching an active system from fTPM to dTPM, it is critical that you disable TPM-backed encryption systems (e.g. BitLocker Drive Encryption) and/or back up vital system data prior to switching TPM devices. You must have full administrative access to the system, or explicit support from your IT administrator if the system is managed. For more information on transferring ownership to a new TPM device, please visit this Microsoft webpage(opens in new tab).

CPU: Ryzen 5900x | GPU: RTX 3090 FE | MB: MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon | RAM: 32gb Ballistix | PSU: Corsair RM750 | Cooler: Sythe Fuma 2 | Case: Phanteks P600s | Storage: 2TB WD Black SN 750 & 1TB Sabrent Rocket | OS: Windows 11 Pro & Linux Mint

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, solado said:

That's a shame in that case but it probably is related to that issue.

 

You didn't mention your motherboard model, does the bios notes mention AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.2.0.7 ?

You can just disable fTPM if you don't need it but make sure nothing is encrypted if you do. You may miss out on some windows updates though.

 

AMD's official notes:

 

Here are the details in AMD's freshly-issued support document: 

  • This documentation provides information on improving intermittent performance stutter(s) on select PCs running Windows 10 and 11 with Firmware Trusted Platform Module (“fTPM”) enabled. 
  • Issue Description
  • AMD has determined that select AMD Ryzen system configurations may intermittently perform extended fTPM-related memory transactions in SPI flash memory (“SPIROM”) located on the motherboard, which can lead to temporary pauses in system interactivity or responsiveness until the transaction is concluded.
  • Update and Workaround
  • Update: Affected PCs will require a motherboard system BIOS (sBIOS) update containing enhanced modules for fTPM interaction with SPIROM. AMD expects that flashable customer sBIOS files to be available starting in early May, 2022. Exact BIOS availability timing for a specific motherboard depends on the testing and integration schedule of your manufacturer. Flashable updates for motherboards will be based on AMD AGESA 1207 (or newer).
     
  • Workaround: As an immediate solution, affected customers dependent on fTPM functionality for Trusted Platform Module support may instead use a hardware TPM (“dTPM”) device for trusted computing. Platform dTPM modules utilize onboard non-volatile memory (NVRAM) that supersedes the TPM/SPIROM interaction described in this article.
     
    1. COMPATIBILITY: Please check with your system or motherboard manufacturer to ensure that your platform supports add-in dTPM modules before attempting or implementing this workaround.
       
    2. WARNING: If switching an active system from fTPM to dTPM, it is critical that you disable TPM-backed encryption systems (e.g. BitLocker Drive Encryption) and/or back up vital system data prior to switching TPM devices. You must have full administrative access to the system, or explicit support from your IT administrator if the system is managed. For more information on transferring ownership to a new TPM device, please visit this Microsoft webpage(opens in new tab).

Yes, my MOBO is running the aforementioned update that addresses this issue.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Leadpool said:

Yes, my MOBO is running the aforementioned update that addresses this issue.

You can disable ftpm in the bios and see if it stops the stuttering.

 

If not then you won't be able to fix it unless a new bios addresses it on your current system set up 

CPU: Ryzen 5900x | GPU: RTX 3090 FE | MB: MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon | RAM: 32gb Ballistix | PSU: Corsair RM750 | Cooler: Sythe Fuma 2 | Case: Phanteks P600s | Storage: 2TB WD Black SN 750 & 1TB Sabrent Rocket | OS: Windows 11 Pro & Linux Mint

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

27 minutes ago, Leadpool said:

Yes, my MOBO is running the aforementioned update that addresses this issue.

Do you have some heavy duty programs running in the background?

 

Have you checked the Windows system files with sfc /scannow?

 

Are your drives healths? (Hard Disk Sentinel)

 

Using the latest AMD chipset driver 8released about a month ago on AMD's website)?

 

Have you considered it might be a broken mouse or other USB device? Maybe the mousepad?

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×