GPU Bottlenecking bad?

[never_here]

need to know, because my old GPU died, and getting a replacement.  I can't afford a full new pc, so getting a GPU only first.  I plan to get a rtx 3060, or 3060ti depending on sale price.

 

I currently have an aging i5 3570k.  16gb ram at i forgto what mhz.  All in all, with my 780, i was able to play most games except for AAA titles, as im also on a 1440p G-SYNC monitor.

 

i know i'll get a bottleneck with the 3060, but will it be so bad i can't play games?  I read that you want to prevent it as much as you can, as well as it could slow down the game more so than running a more compatible GPU.  But its confusing, because i also see videos of people running games just fine.

 

To me, i dont do a whole lot of AAA gaming.  But, i do enjoy playing CS and Dota 2 at high frame rates.  Including the fact i have a G-SYNC monitor.  Would bottle necking be that bad for me?  Would it stutter a lot?  Could i not play CS GO at 144fps?  For AAA tiltes, like warzone, anything over 60 fps is fine for me.  

 

Thanks!

[191x7]

It would be such a hard bottleneck the GPU wouldn't even use the game clocks - it would probably run on the power/clocks for low load.

If you don't plan on upgrading the rest of the system soon, get a weaker card, it will perform the same. And, at least, get a 3770K used.

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8 minutes ago, never_here said:

need to know, because my old GPU died, and getting a replacement.  I can't afford a full new pc, so getting a GPU only first.  I plan to get a rtx 3060, or 3060ti depending on sale price.

 

I currently have an aging i5 3570k.  16gb ram at i forgto what mhz.  All in all, with my 780, i was able to play most games except for AAA titles, as im also on a 1440p G-SYNC monitor.

 

i know i'll get a bottleneck with the 3060, but will it be so bad i can't play games?  I read that you want to prevent it as much as you can, as well as it could slow down the game more so than running a more compatible GPU.  But its confusing, because i also see videos of people running games just fine.

 

To me, i dont do a whole lot of AAA gaming.  But, i do enjoy playing CS and Dota 2 at high frame rates.  Including the fact i have a G-SYNC monitor.  Would bottle necking be that bad for me?  Would it stutter a lot?  Could i not play CS GO at 144fps?  For AAA tiltes, like warzone, anything over 60 fps is fine for me.  

 

Thanks!

That will be a pretty rough bottleneck tbh. I'd just hold off on a new gpu for now and save up for a whole system overhaul 

[never_here]

2 minutes ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

That will be a pretty rough bottleneck tbh. I'd just hold off on a new gpu for now and save up for a whole system overhaul 

but what you do you mean it'll be a pretty rough bottleneck.  it seems everyone just says things like this.  Not saying you're wrong, but not many people explain why this is bad.  Is it bottleneck hard that the games would not be playable?  Or bottleneck that makes the GPU not worth the value.  And its not possible for me to just get a new system.  Its way to expensive to pick up a new Mobo and CPU & Ram.  Even on black friday deals, it'll still be pretty rough on my budget. 

9 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

It would be such a hard bottleneck the GPU wouldn't even use the game clocks - it would probably run on the power/clocks for low load.

If you don't plan on upgrading the rest of the system soon, get a weaker card, it will perform the same. And, at least, get a 3770K used.

weaker card like a 3050?  or like 1660 super or something.  I personally was happy with the 780.  I wanted a 1060, but you know, gpu market went crazy for a while, and now its not really worth it.  A 1660 local to me is $300, and a rtx 3050 is $350.  a 3060 is around $450, and i find that extra $100 is worth it to me.  
The issue is also, i will get a new build probably next year.  But i also want to pick up a GPU now while its on sale, as i'm not able to do much using an old radeon gpu that is as powerful as like a gtx 550 or something.  
ps, my 3570k is OC'd, but i doubt it be a huge difference in this case. 

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2 minutes ago, never_here said:

but what you do you mean it'll be a pretty rough bottleneck.  it seems everyone just says things like this.  Not saying you're wrong, but not many people explain why this is bad.  Is it bottleneck hard that the games would not be playable?  Or bottleneck that makes the GPU not worth the value.  And its not possible for me to just get a new system.  Its way to expensive to pick up a new Mobo and CPU & Ram.  Even on black friday deals, it'll still be pretty rough on my budget. 

weaker card like a 3050?  or like 1660 super or something.  I personally was happy with the 780.  I wanted a 1060, but you know, gpu market went crazy for a while, and now its not really worth it.  A 1660 local to me is $300, and a rtx 3050 is $350.  a 3060 is around $450, and i find that extra $100 is worth it to me.  
The issue is also, i will get a new build probably next year.  But i also want to pick up a GPU now while its on sale, as i'm not able to do much using an old radeon gpu that is as powerful as like a gtx 550 or something.  
ps, my 3570k is OC'd, but i doubt it be a huge difference in this case. 

I just mean in the sense where a 3060 won't really perform like a 3060 with that ancient CPU. It will still work fine it's just the CPU will hold it back A TON.

 

Also, off topic kind of, but why are you considering the 3060? That's like the worst value GPU there is. The 3060ti is like 40% faster for not much more money. Or AMD 6700xt are dirt cheap right now too and way faster than 3060

[191x7]

Have you considered the Radeon 6600?

[Mark Kaine]

Tbh, a cpu bottleneck, which this combo will create, is what you want to avoid,  a gpu bottleneck isnt so bad you can always lower settings and stuff, with a cpu bottleneck you're pretty much stuck and cant improve performance much by normal measures, if at all. 

 

i mean get the card, but understand you should follow up with cpu, mobo and ram upgrade, because otherwise the gpu is a waste as it won't even be close to be utilized fully.

[never_here]

17 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Have you considered the Radeon 6600?

problem is, i have a G-SYNC monitor, which i actually like.  it is not freesync compatible sadly, so i prefer to stay green in terms of GPU.
 

 

19 hours ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

I just mean in the sense where a 3060 won't really perform like a 3060 with that ancient CPU. It will still work fine it's just the CPU will hold it back A TON.

 

Also, off topic kind of, but why are you considering the 3060? That's like the worst value GPU there is. The 3060ti is like 40% faster for not much more money. Or AMD 6700xt are dirt cheap right now too and way faster than 3060

True, honestly, didn't look into a Ti version mostly because it cost another $100 more.  Might pick it up.  Granted, it is faster.  Also, having the GPU not being able to be fully utilized is fine with me.  Its not having a GPU atm is annoying, and buying a 1660 feels like a waste of money right now.  1660 near me is $350, a 3060 is $500.  
 

 

14 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Tbh, a cpu bottleneck, which this combo will create, is what you want to avoid,  a gpu bottleneck isnt so bad you can always lower settings and stuff, with a cpu bottleneck you're pretty much stuck and cant improve performance much by normal measures, if at all. 

 

i mean get the card, but understand you should follow up with cpu, mobo and ram upgrade, because otherwise the gpu is a waste as it won't even be close to be utilized fully.

ya, thats fine.  I get it, but its hard to buy a full new pc now.  I have a perfectly good PC right now, without a GPU basically.  Its pretty frustrating.  I just need one so i can play at least CS GO and Dota reasonably well.  Even my 780 was able to push about 144FPS on CS GO and Dota to 100fps.  I also need to be able to play VR for Beat Saber as my gf is legit annoying me with this.  So much so shes for once, pitching in for me to buy a GPU, hahah.  
Lastly, i dont want to build a cheapo PC.  Similar to my 3570k, it has served me very well, for many years.  And i'm hoping the new Intel 13th gen, or AMD 7000 series will probably be my next upgrade, with DDR5 RAM, and w/e PCI-E stuff.

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7 minutes ago, never_here said:

problem is, i have a G-SYNC monitor, which i actually like.  it is not freesync compatible sadly, so i prefer to stay green in terms of GPU.
 

 

True, honestly, didn't look into a Ti version mostly because it cost another $100 more.  Might pick it up.  Granted, it is faster.  Also, having the GPU not being able to be fully utilized is fine with me.  Its not having a GPU atm is annoying, and buying a 1660 feels like a waste of money right now.  1660 near me is $350, a 3060 is $500.  
 

 

ya, thats fine.  I get it, but its hard to buy a full new pc now.  I have a perfectly good PC right now, without a GPU basically.  Its pretty frustrating.  I just need one so i can play at least CS GO and Dota reasonably well.  Even my 780 was able to push about 144FPS on CS GO and Dota to 100fps.  I also need to be able to play VR for Beat Saber as my gf is legit annoying me with this.  So much so shes for once, pitching in for me to buy a GPU, hahah.  
Lastly, i dont want to build a cheapo PC.  Similar to my 3570k, it has served me very well, for many years.  And i'm hoping the new Intel 13th gen, or AMD 7000 series will probably be my next upgrade, with DDR5 RAM, and w/e PCI-E stuff.

I would definitely pick up the Ti then. It's MUCH faster

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6 minutes ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

I would definitely pick up the Ti then. It's MUCH faster

thanks for the tip.  I think i'll do that.  thanks for the tip man!  checked it out, and ya, seems worth the extra $100 on top compared to the 3060.  Might as well.  would have just gotten the 3060 if i didn't check, hahah

[191x7]

43 minutes ago, never_here said:

problem is, i have a G-SYNC monitor, which i actually like.  it is not freesync compatible sadly, so i prefer to stay green in terms of GPU.
...very well, for many years.  And i'm hoping the new Intel 13th gen, or AMD 7000 series will probably be my next upgrade, with DDR5 RAM, and w/e PCI-E stuff.

Then get a used i7 3770K or a comparable Xeon, to get 4 Cores 8 threads, that will push out a tiny bit more from the GPU you buy. 

[never_here]

12 hours ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

I would definitely pick up the Ti then. It's MUCH faster

i got the RTX 3060ti.  Its been really good so far.  thanks for the clarification,  I get tthe bottleneck limits what my GPU can do, but i actually dontt need it performing at 100% for now.  However, converting my video archives to h.265 its significantly faster, and running tthe gpu at 100%.  As well as some video edits i do occasionally.  

TThanks again!