First Personal PC Build

[Mater752]

Budget (including currency): $1000 to $1200

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Currently playing Mobile Suit Gundam Evolution on a 3200G but being able to play that on High Settings or get into other games like Warframe, etc.

Other details: Here is my parts list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qYck78. Case has already been bought so it has been excluded - it is a O11 Air Mini

 

[Bombastinator]

Clicked on your link and got “page not found”

 

This 3200g machine.  It might possibly be upgraded into something useful. What do you have?  The motherboard model, case, memory speed, and PSU all need to be listed.

[Ryuikko]

6 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Clicked on your link and got “page not found

The link has a period on the end of it so if you remove it you'll see the list 

Though I agree that knowing the mobo would be useful since a bios update would reduce the cost of having to buy a new one

[GeorgeMKane]

46 minutes ago, Mater752 said:

Budget (including currency): $1000 to $1200

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Currently playing Mobile Suit Gundam Evolution on a 3200G but being able to play that on High Settings or get into other games like Warframe, etc.

Other details: Here is my parts list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qYck78. Case has already been bought so it has been excluded - it is a O11 Air Mini

 

I would recommend these changes. Also, bring over whatever storage you have from your current build and use that for the new one. If you cannot, I recommend holding off on the extra HDD and go with more SSD storage at a later time. You can always add more storage later pretty easily actually.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s3w3Bj

[Bombastinator]

10 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

The link has a period on the end of it so if you remove it you'll see the list 

Though I agree that knowing the mobo would be useful since a bios update would reduce the cost of having to buy a new one

I can’t seem to do that on my iPhone.  It just keeps on wanting to open it and then fails.

[Bombastinator]

38 minutes ago, GeorgeMKane said:

I would recommend these changes. Also, bring over whatever storage you have from your current build and use that for the new one. If you cannot, I recommend holding off on the extra HDD and go with more SSD storage at a later time. You can always add more storage later pretty easily actually.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s3w3Bj

Keep only the case?  It’s that bad? (Haven’t seen the specs yet)  At that point my druthers would be to leave the case as it can be sold as a whole machine and then buy something cheap. Maybe swap the cheap case with the nice one then.  There are crap cases for well under $50.

 

Most motherboards that will take a 3200g will also take a 5600x. That is a 5700x of course and there is a point to those.  The really lowball solution is just pop a video card in what you got.  A 2300g is more or less a 4/8 skylake power wise.  That one is dependent on the PSU though and I got no idea what that is.  Let’s assume b360 for the current motherboard. Pull the cpu and put a 5600g in it because we won’t be going crazy with the video card and a b360 is pcie3 anyway.  Plus they’re even cheaper than 5600xes. (For cause, but this is save-a-buck-theatre here) if the memory is dual channel and more than 8gb just leave it. If it isn’t a 2x8 kit of 3200mhz cas 16 is like $60 or something. Then take the rest of the cash and get a 3070 (NOT a 3080 or even a 3070ti, just a 3070)  the 5600g gets awful fast if it’s rather severe bandwidth limitations are exceeded but as long as they aren’t it’s a happy little 6 core zen3 cpu.  So we don’t push it hard enough for it’s fangs to come out. Amphere is pcie3 so it won’t be bothered, the 5600g has a hellish bandwidth limitation, but a 3070 doesn’t cross it so that doesn’t matter either.  Thing should work fine as long as 8/16 isn’t needed (jury is still out) and there’s spare cash for a better monitor, which also might be needed.   A750w PSU will also be wanted.  Something evga maybe.  I got a decent 850w recently that was dirt cheap.  The 750w and decent though are needed.

 

The given solution will run rings around the 5600g in compute and is LOTS more upgradable though.  Depends on what you want.

 

That cooler is pretty pricey.  Might be tempted to go with a thermalright peerless assassin 120 se.  It’s not quite as good, and definitely not as pretty, but it’s also under $40.

Edited October 16, 2022 by Bombastinator

[GeorgeMKane]

42 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Keep only the case?  It’s that bad? (Haven’t seen the specs yet)

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Case has already been bought so it has been excluded - it is a O11 Air Mini

I have no idea what else was in their old build, with the exception of the case and the APU.

Edited October 16, 2022 by GeorgeMKane

[Somerandomtechyboi]

43 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Keep only the case?  It’s that bad? (Haven’t seen the specs yet)  At that point my druthers would be to leave the case as it can be sold as a whole machine and then buy something cheap. Maybe swap the cheap case with the nice one then.  There are crap cases for well under $50.

 

That cooler is pretty pricey.  Might be tempted to go with a thermalright peerless assassin 120 se.  It’s not quite as good, and definitely not as pretty, but it’s also under $40.

Yea its pretty bad, but like u12s is mid af especially at that price. The assasin 120 would atleast perform the same as the u12s

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rv2k78

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Used board, look for used b3/450 or x3/470 <60$ on your local used market, stuff like the pro4 should be avaliable at that price

 

Gpu wise theres used 6900xt going ~570$ on ebay, same for 3080 if you prefer nvidia. May be worth waiting for the rx 7000 cards or full launch of the rtx 4000 cards though, but if you go that route theres a bunch of rx 6600 floating around at ~200$ used on ebay with some going <200$

[Mater752]

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I saw some questions asking what I am currently running so I will write that out.

CPU - 3200G

MOBO - Asus Prime B450M-A

RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 X 4GB) DDR4 3000

Power Supply - Unsure on this one because the case I am using is a family members that I repurposed and it had one already installed but I believe it's either a 350 or 450 Watt.

Storage - 240 GB WD SSD - Boot Drive and 2 500 GB HDD.

 

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, Mater752 said:

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I saw some questions asking what I am currently running so I will write that out.

CPU - 3200G

MOBO - Asus Prime B450M-A

RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 X 4GB) DDR4 3000

Power Supply - Unsure on this one because the case I am using is a family members that I repurposed and it had one already installed but I believe it's either a 350 or 450 Watt.

Storage - 240 GB WD SSD - Boot Drive and 2 500 GB HDD.

 

That board should take a 5700. I think. might be close.  VRM could be warm.  The stock cooler is downdraft though.  Might be enough.  Maybe do a stress test paying close attention to how hot the VRM gets.  It may need more cooling.  The thing that motherboard doesn’t do is pcie4, but the big pcie4 video cards all have enough live channels on the comb that they can do pcie3 fine so it doesn’t matter.  A 6400 or 5500 would suck, but we’re going higher than that.  A used 3080 or 6900xt would be viable then, except we’re running out of money.  So it’s a 5600 and a big video card, or a 5700 l, possible heat issues, and a not as big video card.  The 5600g is also a viable option on that motherboard since there’s no pcie4 so that route remains a possible.  The thing is any video card that goes on that board with a 5600g will only get 8 lanes of pcie3 to play with, so anything 2080 or smaller is required.