DDR5 question

[AveragePCenjoyer]

with my new build I am going to get some Trident Z 64gb at 6000mhz CL30 (F5-6000J3040). I would like to know if thats one of the best kit that I can buy or are there better ones. DDR5 is still really foregin to me and I would go with good ole DDR4 if I could. I am using the Z690 Apex board, that should be able to run it at the advertised speed right? Thanks in advance guys 

[Shimejii]

Not exactly guaranteed to work, still need to have a good cpu and decent Internal mem controller and make sure its on the QVL of the motherboard. most 4x16 kits are not gonna work at 6000, just plain and simple. If its a 2x32 kit, you HAVE to make sure its on the motherboard QVL for Memory, otherwise you are simply wasting money as theres a good chance it wont boot with XMP or be stable.

[RONOTHAN##]

Two things:

1. Do you actually need 64GB of RAM? If you don't you're really better off sticking to the 2x16GB kits, they perform almost identically (the dual rank benefits of DDR5 is almost non-existent compared to DDR3 and DDR4), and the single rank DDR5 kits can clock significantly higher if you overclock it manually (which if you bought an Apex, you should be doing manual DDR5 overclocking) since the memory controller on Alder Lake does struggle with multiple memory ranks. 
2. It depends what you mean by "best." That is a kit that's guaranteed to be Hynix M-Die, which is currently the best memory IC for overclocking present in North America and G.Skill does make some pretty good PCBs, so it is definitely strong. That said, Hynix A-Die has released in Asian markets and performs significantly better (8GT/s on air is achievable for daily stable settings with a good kit), and you can currently get kits if you know the right people (Splave is currently selling binned OEM DIMMs for $450 a kit on the HWBot forums, guaranteeing that they do at least 7600MT/s CL32). 

If you just want a kit that you can enable XMP on and need 64GB of RAM, yeah that's about as good as you can reasonably find, but IMO if you're buying a Z690 Apex, you shouldn't be enabling XMP and calling it a day, that's a board designed for very high speed DDR5 overclocking, you should be running some pretty aggressive DDR5 settings. 

[AveragePCenjoyer]

3 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Not exactly guaranteed to work, still need to have a good cpu and decent Internal mem controller and make sure its on the QVL of the motherboard. most 4x16 kits are not gonna work at 6000, just plain and simple. If its a 2x32 kit, you HAVE to make sure its on the motherboard QVL for Memory, otherwise you are simply wasting money as theres a good chance it wont boot with XMP or be stable.

 its 2 stick of 32 and the z690 Apex last time I checked should work.... right? Again I am new to this whole DDR5 thing. Last PC I built had a 9900k its been a while

 

[AveragePCenjoyer]

2 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Two things:

1. Do you actually need 64GB of RAM? If you don't you're really better off sticking to the 2x16GB kits, they perform almost identically (the dual rank benefits of DDR5 is almost non-existent compared to DDR3 and DDR4), and the single rank DDR5 kits can clock significantly higher if you overclock it manually (which if you bought an Apex, you should be doing manual DDR5 overclocking) since the memory controller on Alder Lake does struggle with multiple memory ranks. 
2. It depends what you mean by "best." That is a kit that's guaranteed to be Hynix M-Die, which is currently the best memory IC for overclocking present in North America and G.Skill does make some pretty good PCBs, so it is definitely strong. That said, Hynix A-Die has released in Asian markets and performs significantly better (8GT/s on air is achievable for daily stable settings with a good kit), and you can currently get kits if you know the right people (Splave is currently selling binned OEM DIMMs for $450 a kit on the HWBot forums, guaranteeing that they do at least 7600MT/s CL32). 

If you just want a kit that you can enable XMP on and need 64GB of RAM, yeah that's about as good as you can reasonably find, but IMO if you're buying a Z690 Apex, you shouldn't be enabling XMP and calling it a day, that's a board designed for very high speed DDR5 overclocking, you should be running some pretty aggressive DDR5 settings. 

Defintely, I would be doing somse manual OCing in the future but for now I just want to be able to game when I get home from this stresful job. I had no idea about the Asia release thing, I guess these will be nice since I am working in Hong Kong right now and all the parts are locally sourced.