SSUPD Meshlicious Mess

[Marexn]

Sup.

 

Let's give TL:DR first.

Building my first SFF, realized the Mobo doesn't have header for USB-C, I don't wanna leave any of the ports hanging so came up with this solution: 20 Pin USB 3.0 Internal Header Y-Splitter + USB 3.1 Front Panel Header to USB 3.0 Font Panel Header Mini Adapter.

Links - https://www.moddiy.com/products/20-Pin-USB-3.0-Internal-Header-Y-Splitter-Cable-12cm.html + https://www.moddiy.com/products/USB-3.1-Front-Panel-Header-to-USB-3.0-Font-Panel-Header-Mini-Adapter.html
Will this work?

 

Ok, with that out of the way, welcome.
I decided to start my ITX journey after building my sister her first PC. I've been ordering some components sporadically when ever I saw my bank account fit to the occasion. Thankfully, I'm on my last stretch.
Here's the PCPartPicker list for anyone curious: https://fi.pcpartpicker.com/list/2vWqrD
I'm looking forward to doing the spacer standoff modification in order to get more clearance and hiding the cables a bit. Thinking of doing it only to motherboard, but I've seen few people do it also to their GPU's, especially the Nvidia Founders edition cards to make the withdraw in more air. I will be replacing the Asus Rog Strix GTX 1080 to maybe 6800 xt, depending on when I'll be selling off my old PC and if wallet stretches enough for one, or if time flies by quicker than I think and I get to go with 7000 series cards... We will see.
Found few days ago also that there was M.2 SSD cooler, made by Be Quiet! so I may pick one up and add it to the back of the motherboard to ease it a bit and give it longer shelf life (The Crucial P2 1TB will go on the backside).
So far the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme has caught my eye as "the one" thermal compound to go with, but I'm open minded for other suggestions.
I was hesitating on going with Crucial Ballistix Ram due to it's height, my other option would have been Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3600MHz CL16, link: https://geizhals.eu/corsair-vengeance-lpx-schwarz-dimm-kit-32gb-cmk32gx4m2d3600c16-a2657554.html
The components I so far have are Fans, AIO, Motherboard, M.2 SSD's, and CPU just came in. I have also ordered the RAM, but it was out of stock on Amazon, so while twiddling thumbs I'm contemplating on switching to Corsair RAM however... I think I've made my mind up, we'll see if this bites me in the ass later...

So, that is it for now... I may post about of my experience after I'm done.

Have a great day.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

3600 cl16 is a ripoff since those will get obliterated by any micron rev e/b (bare pcb, ballistix, dont matter same thing easy 4600+ cl18 or 3800 cl14 profile off the internet), if you want performance rams either any micron rev e/b (avoid >3200 bins, bare pcb 2666 also works) or samsung bdie on 4400 19-19-19 or 3200 cl14 but keep in mind performance rams are completely useless without tuning so if you cant do something as basic as manually setting a profile from the internet then stick to 3200 cl16/3600 cl18 as you wont be missing out on much performance anyways, anything else is obliterated by microns and samsung bdie. Btw primaries < secondaries & tertiaries, trash primaries dont matter that much as long as the subtimings are good, thats pretty much why bdie obliterates everything since it can lower trfc a ton vs all other ram ics

 

Kryonaut extreme is for xoc and top thermal pastes only vary by 1-2c so just get a cheaper paste like arctic mx4 or if you aant a highend one gelid gc extreme

 

And crucial p2 is god awful so if there are cheaper ssds go with those or if there are dram or atleast faster ssds near the price of the p2 go with those

[Marexn]

16 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

3600 cl16 is a ripoff since those will get obliterated by any micron rev e/b (bare pcb, ballistix, dont matter same thing easy 4600+ cl18 or 3800 cl14 profile off the internet), if you want performance rams either any micron rev e/b (avoid >3200 bins, bare pcb 2666 also works) or samsung bdie on 4400 19-19-19 or 3200 cl14 but keep in mind performance rams are completely useless without tuning so if you cant do something as basic as manually setting a profile from the internet then stick to 3200 cl16/3600 cl18 as you wont be missing out on much performance anyways, anything else is obliterated by microns and samsung bdie. Btw primaries < secondaries & tertiaries, trash primaries dont matter that much as long as the subtimings are good, thats pretty much why bdie obliterates everything since it can lower trfc a ton vs all other ram ics

 

Kryonaut extreme is for xoc and top thermal pastes only vary by 1-2c so just get a cheaper paste like arctic mx4 or if you aant a highend one gelid gc extreme

 

And crucial p2 is god awful so if there are cheaper ssds go with those or if there are dram or atleast faster ssds near the price of the p2 go with those

The only reason why I was debating on going with Corsairs RAM was due to the height. Imma be honest, I have little to no knowledge on the rev e/b and different bdie's Micron or Samsung makes, I haven't been able to teach myself on them yet. But Crucial has been the RAM I've gone with previously, so I trusted their products.

 

With the paste... Yeah, I'm not looking to do any big performance testings and what not to push my CPU to it's limits. I may go with Arctics MX4 or Noctua's offerings in the end if I wanna cheap out.

I've already gotten the Crucial P2 SSD. It was really freaking cheap when I got it ordered. It won't be my main OS drive, just gonna off load bunch of Steam games etc. in it.
Perhaps I'll look to upgrade the M.2 at somepoint when I clean the PC up and upgrade the cables, need to do some measuring on how long I'll need if I decide to go with custom length once, haven't decided yet. Found out that Corsair has made their own SF-Series Premium PSU cables, but apparently the PSU already comes with decent enough ones, so I'm gonna run off of those first and in the future look into options to either swap em' with those or ball out with custom ones.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

30 minutes ago, Marexn said:

The only reason why I was debating on going with Corsairs RAM was due to the height. Imma be honest, I have little to no knowledge on the rev e/b and different bdie's Micron or Samsung makes, I haven't been able to teach myself on them yet. But Crucial has been the RAM I've gone with previously, so I trusted their products.

Crucial got good ram ics so you should be fine with em, though get the 3200 version instead, performance doesnt come from the primaries anyways fyi, and btw there are 3600/3800 cl14 oc profiles for these ballistix rams so check those out, free performance boost while also being low effort

 

and since crucial use microns which are really good id assume the far more important subtimings are tighter than that of the corsair ram since 3600 cl16 is still gonna get you the same ics you get on 3200 cl16 and 3600 cl18 so they have to nuke the subtimings to get all ics to work (from garbage cdie to hynix djr aka very diff ics) properly while crucial only has rev e to deal with (rev b 8gbit is outdated and pretty trash so they dont use it anymore for all i know) so youll likely see similar performance between 3200 cl16 ballistix and 3600 cl16 corsair (yes the subtimings do indeed impact bandwidth too not just latency), not to mention apparently corsair has binning issues, very easy to solve but since you have zero knowledge on rams easy to solve becomes impossible to solve

 

31 minutes ago, Marexn said:

I've already gotten the Crucial P2 SSD. It was really freaking cheap when I got it ordered. It won't be my main OS drive, just gonna off load bunch of Steam games etc. in it.
Perhaps I'll look to upgrade the M.2 at somepoint when I clean the PC up and upgrade the cables

No need to upgrade as fast ssd is not important, if its fasteer than a sata ssd then its perfectly fine for most tasks other than some very intense r/w stuff which loading games or apps does not fall into (iirc its something to do with productivity stuff like high res vid editing)