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Rob in MB
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OK so I'm building using an X570 mobo (PCIe 4) along with a 5700G (PCIe 3) -- if I get a PCIe 4 SSD, will that make any difference in terms of I/O, virtual memory / swap file, or anything else?
Would any difference only be within margin of error between 2 identical runs of benchmarks? 
This is aside from the "you might as well get a PCIe 4 SSD anyhow" points.
My first-ever post so don't flame me if I'm posting in the wrong section, And if anyone has dealt with this issue in the past, well, I'll buy LTT merch or something ;-)
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Welcome to the forums!
With a faster SSD, pagefile will be faster. So will temp folders, boot times etc. However, a gen4 SSD won't perform to its max potential as a gen3 drive will.

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1 minute ago, Rob in MB said:

will that make any difference in terms of I/O, virtual memory / swap file, or anything else?

Nope, if anything it'll be slightly worse since the Gen 4 drives are usually tuned more for raw speed rather than IOPS (what you actually want for daily operation). There are some exceptions to that, but for the most part the only advantage of the Gen 4 drives are the massive amounts of throughput on them. The performance differences between them.

 

I'd save your money and just get a good Gen 3 drive. Most people don't notice the difference between Gen 3 and Gen 4 drives anyway.

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Yes technically a gen 4 drive would be faster. But in real world tests a fast Gen 3 works really good.

I have yet to see someone who uses a GEN 4 drive actually see the difference in speed. The GEN 4 is more for multuiple drives, in some form of a RAID to acutally get noticed for its speed. As others have said the IOPS is more important than throughput for us normal mortals using home PC's.

 

I did the reseach awhile ago, and opted for a larger Gen 3 vs a faster Gen 4, and its noticalbly faster then my old SSD in sata port.

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There's a minimal practical difference between most "not bad" SSDs.

If you're worried about page file performance a TON, buy a used optane drive off ebay (extra credit for being crazy and using block level caching with something like primocache or storeMI and saving your metadata to the optane drive)

The one potential future benefit to pcie 4.0 would be directstorage. I have no idea if or when this will mater

 

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