First Build

[Neintonine]

Hello there,
I'm currently planning my first build.
I want it to stay good enough for about 5 to 8 years.
 

Budget (including currency): 1,000€ - 3,000€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Generic Gaming (Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout, Apex Legends, etc.), Blender and programming (in extension Game Development with Unity).

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

My parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ninetonine/saved/jJdv4D

I'm not entirely sure if I want a RTX 3060 or a RTX 3080 TI, thats why I added both.
It has an 12 core for programming, so compiling is faster. I have gone with a intel right now, but I can be swayed to AMD.

I want to run it with a either QHD or 4K (not decided yet) and 144hz.

Right now I running a Intel Xeon E3-1231v3 and a RX 580.
Together with 2 1080p monitors (one 75hz, 60hz) and one 3:4 I want to get rid of after buying the new monitor, what is gonna happen after the system.

I don't have an exact time right now. Its in the timespan of 2 and 5 months.

I have all peripherals already, oviously.

Have a great day,
Neintonine

[Tan3l6]

2 minutes ago, Neintonine said:

My parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ninetonine/saved/FkHnpg

This part list is private.

[Neintonine]

1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

This part list is private.

thank you. Changed it

[Tan3l6]

7 minutes ago, Neintonine said:

My parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ninetonine/saved/FkHnpg

The CPU cooler is not good enough.

Thermalright Frost Spirit 140 is much more adequate, though it costs more it won't cause thermal throttling.

 

Edit:

RAM - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GkJgXL/team-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-ttced432g3600hc18jdc01 - cheaper and faster.

GPU - perhaps RTX 3070 - it's perfect for 1440p

[Neintonine]

4 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

The CPU cooler is not good enough.

Thermalright Frost Spirit 140 is much more adequate, though it costs more it won't cause thermal throttling.

 

Edit:

RAM - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GkJgXL/team-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-ttced432g3600hc18jdc01 - cheaper and faster.

GPU - perhaps RTX 3070 - it's perfect for 1440p

Thanks.
I've applied your recommendations for cooler and RAM.
Since I work with blender and that requires quite a lot of GPU power in Cycles, I don't quite know if the 3070 is good enough. Also I may want to upgrade to a 4K monitor. So on the GPU I rather buy something way to powerful, but be sure that is has enough power for my upgrade path.

The thing is right now I will have a lot of money for me to, well, "piss away". So I rather buy a very expensive pc now than in 3 years.

But I take that you recommend something stronger than 3060.

[Tan3l6]

5 minutes ago, Neintonine said:

Thanks.
I've applied your recommendations for cooler and RAM.
Since I work with blender and that requires quite a lot of GPU power in Cycles, I don't quite know if the 3070 is good enough. Also I may want to upgrade to a 4K monitor. So on the GPU I rather buy something way to powerful, but be sure that is has enough power for my upgrade path.

The thing is right now I will have a lot of money for me to, well, "piss away". So I rather buy a very expensive pc now than in 3 years.

But I take that you recommend something stronger than 3060.

Oof, my bad, I thought you were from US (forgot to read first post thoroughly). Germany has completely different prices on coolers. let me take a look...

Perhaps AIO cooling even? - https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/2PFKHx/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00068a

If AIO liquid cooling is not acceptable, then air cooling - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/D3Gbt6/scythe-fuma-2-revb-3944-cfm-cpu-cooler-scfm-2100

[Neintonine]

1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

Oof, my bad, I thought you were from US. Germany has completely different prices on coolers. let me take a look...

Perhaps AIO cooling even? - https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/2PFKHx/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00068a

I mean, yeah. I could do a AIO.
I've never had a PC with water cooling, so that is gonna be different.
I guess its not such a hassle as a own loop? Because I don't want water leaking...

[Neintonine]

I guess, I will put both cooler in my list and will continue asking around and getting more information.
I have some time before I want to buy it anyways.
Thank you so much for your help.

[Tan3l6]

6 minutes ago, Neintonine said:

I mean, yeah. I could do a AIO.
I've never had a PC with water cooling, so that is gonna be different.
I guess its not such a hassle as a own loop? Because I don't want water leaking...

I bought my first AIO this year, and have to say it's installation is much less hassle than some giant dual-tower aircooler. Also it's easier to access RAM slots and easier changing the thermal paste. Downside - AIOs are supposedly good for around 5 years. 

The AIO of mine has not leaked yet... the failure of AIOS are reported to be the pump giving up. not the water loop leaking.

[Neintonine]

1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

I bought my first AIO this year, and have to say it's installation is much less hassle than some giant dual-tower aircooler. Also it's easier to access RAM slots and easier changing the thermal paste. Downside - AIOs are supposedly good for around 5 years. 

The AIO of mine has not leaked yet...

Ok. So that means, I have to buy a new cooler in 5 years intervals, when I go with AIO.
That would be not ideal, since maybe I want to use it longer or want to give it away, when I may be get a new one.
But that is part of the further research I guess

[Tan3l6]

2 minutes ago, Neintonine said:

Ok. So that means, I have to buy a new cooler in 5 years intervals, when I go with AIO.
That would be not ideal, since maybe I want to use it longer or want to give it away, when I may be get a new one.
But that is part of the further research I guess

Well, I think there is no absolute statistics when the AIO pump stops working, just reading the forums has left such opinion that about 5 years is the average.

5 years is still long time IMO.

[venomtail]

47 minutes ago, Neintonine said:

My parts list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ninetonine/saved/jJdv4D

Cooler bad. In my mind CPU cooler should cost 1/3rd of your CPU cost for it do be able to do anything. Yours is like 1/10th. It's not up to task. Noctua air coolers should do the job. Unless you need some specific capabilities that only the NZXT board can offer, why have you chosen it? Very pricy. Most people barely use expensive motherboard features anyways.

You're gonna need more than one 500GB SDD, escpecially if you want it to last you 5 years. 500GB might last me 2 weeks before it's all filled up.

Get a better case. In the longterm you'll appreciate ease of access on more expensive cases and in the short term you won't tear your hair out trying to build in a cheap case.

Don't waste 100euro on Windows key. It's free with a watermark you can barely notice. Costs 2-20 euros from ebay to other key reseller sites.

 

Also change ur country to Germany so u can see ur national costs and what's in stock.

Here's an updated list: 
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€417.99 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€98.88 @ Mindfactory) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut 1 g Thermal Paste  (€9.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock H670 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€188.76 @ Computeruniverse) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€286.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Gigabyte AORUS Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€134.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Kingston NV1 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€151.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 16 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€285.65 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: PNY GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB UPRISING Video Card  (€999.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€108.80 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 12 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€208.27 @ Galaxus) 
Total: €2891.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-17 16:41 CEST+0200

 

Heard the conductonaut does well with lowering temps. If you plan to use anything for years, heat will kill anything the fastest.

Don't know enough about 3080ti powerdraw. If PCPartpicker is showing 700W as peak, 850W should be enough. Would like someone with 3080ti usage and knowledge to comment on this. In that case, you still have 100 extra euros to spend on a quality 1000W PSU.

[Neintonine]

18 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Cooler bad. In my mind CPU cooler should cost 1/3rd of your CPU cost for it do be able to do anything. Yours is like 1/10th. It's not up to task. Noctua air coolers should do the job. Unless you need some specific capabilities that only the NZXT build can offer, why have you chosen it? Very pricy. Most people barely use expensive motherboard features anyways.

You're gonna need more than one 500GB SDD, escpecially if you want it to last you 5 years. 500GB might last me 2 weeks before it's all filled up.

Get a better case. In the longterm you'll appreciate ease of access on more expensive cases and in the short term you won't tear your hair out trying to build in a cheap case.

Don't waste 100euro on Windows key. It's free with a watermark you can barely notice. Costs 2-20 euros from ebay to other key reseller sites.

 

Also change ur country to Germany so u can see ur national costs and what's in stock.

Here's an updated list: 
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€417.99 @ Galaxus) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€98.88 @ Mindfactory) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut 1 g Thermal Paste  (€9.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock H670 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€188.76 @ Computeruniverse) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€286.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Gigabyte AORUS Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€134.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Kingston NV1 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€151.90 @ Alza) 
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 16 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€285.65 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: PNY GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB UPRISING Video Card  (€999.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€108.80 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Dark Power 12 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€208.27 @ Galaxus) 
Total: €2891.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-17 16:41 CEST+0200

The cooler is already changed. Either the Scythe Fuma 2 https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/D3Gbt6/scythe-fuma-2-revb-3944-cfm-cpu-cooler-scfm-2100 or the one you put in the part list. (Not yet decided)

The storage is not my issue, since I already have a 500 GB SATA SSD and a 2TB HDD + 1 TB HDD in my RaspPI. Soon I gonna buy a new SATA SSD for games.
The M.2 is just for faster windows boot up. But maybe I should go up to 1TB for programs and stuff.

For the motherboard, I believe most are pretty much the same. But I want a digitial sound output. So I'm gonna stick with what I had before for now.

For the GPU, what is the different in the RTX 3080 LHR version vs the normal one? When I googled it, I only found the normal one.

Tbh, for the case I just chose one, that looked half decent. xD