New Gaming Computer

[Balance of Judgement]

I am not a hardcore gamer by any means but i do like the occasional game, and am wanting to give some of the VR games a try. computer will also be used for some 3d design used in 3d printing. i have 2 monitors (27 inch), and in the US (Arizona to be exact). i currently have a G502 wireless mouse, but will be needing/wanting a new keyboard (not included in build budget but recommendations appreciated since been a long time since i got a new one).

 

any help is appreciated as it has been a good 7-8 years since i really looked at build parts (last time i upgraded parts to my current computer) so im a bit behind on which ones are good, and part picking has always been my struggle.

 

another concern i have (and reason i didn't build one last year and decided to wait) is that it seams a lot of parts are seriously overprice or almost impossible to get. i'm hoping this situation has improved somewhat.

 

I would like to keep build costs at about $2,000 or less (but not a hard budget, could go a little over if it will make a noticeable performance difference for what i'm doing)

[brob]

Is the system to be used for work?

 

What interest do you have in RGB lighting?

 

Is noise a concern?

 

Monitor resolution?

[Kangaroo Factory]

Wait for 4080 to come out. Buy 1080 Ti FTW3 off ebay for ~300ish.

Or wait for the 4080 to come out. Buy 2080 Ti XC off ebay for ~420ish.

 

Avoid DDR5 motherboards.

 

PCI 5.0 is unnecessary. 

 

pci 4.0 7000 mb m2 hard drives are cool and cost the same as an equivalent ssd right now. 

 

I liked the Dark Hero AM4, but it's expensive at $450 and only has two m2 slots.

Dark Hero AM4 (amazon)

5600 X 

Prism cooler (ebay)

GSkill Trident Z16 GB DDR4 CL 18 3600 ram

m2 drive

corsair power supply rm 850 watt

 

I also liked the Asus Strix z690-a, because it's less expensive and you get 4 m2 slots. There's an amazon warehouse deal going for $284 as I type this.

Asus Strix z690-a

12700k 

D15 cooler with short ddr4 ram

or 

AIO cooler with tall ram

m2 drives

corsair power supply rm 850 watt

 

I like D15 CPU fans, but you'll need a dremel cut off tool to use tall ram, or get short ram like the corsair vengeance. I should point out that corsair vengeance ram is cheap stuff. There's probably a better option that's still low profile.

[Balance of Judgement]

10 hours ago, brob said:

Is the system to be used for work?

 

What interest do you have in RGB lighting?

 

Is noise a concern?

 

Monitor resolution?

ASUS TUF Gaming 27" 2K Monitor (VG27AQL1A) is the monitor, it wont be used for my job, but i will do similar work type items as i do for work on it still  (adobe, office, email, ect, plus i like to 3d print and make my own designs so should be able to handle that also). id rather it not be too loud if possible. RBG lighting would be neat so little interest in it, but if it creates a huge cost increase than i'd rather focus on performance.

 

Computer is mainly for Games (VR big thing im wanting, but given this will be me getting introduced into VR, i dont really know what is needed to have good performance there), plus a lot of the standard stuff i listed earlier.

[brob]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($342.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S redux 70.75 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.99 @ Best Buy) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($548.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($107.89 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1518.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-30 03:09 EDT-0400

[Balance of Judgement]

8 hours ago, brob said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($342.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S redux 70.75 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.99 @ Best Buy) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($548.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($107.89 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1518.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-30 03:09 EDT-0400

wow thanks. thats actually a lot lower than i was expecting to pay. thanks

[Balance of Judgement]

On 5/30/2022 at 12:10 AM, brob said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($342.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S redux 70.75 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.99 @ Best Buy) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($548.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($107.89 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1518.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-05-30 03:09 EDT-0400

looking at ordering some of the parts. if i'm not looking to upgrade for a while (hoping this one will be able to run what i want it to for at least 4 years) do you think i should look at doing 32 gb ram over 16, or is it just a waste beyond 16 gb because the other parts (motherboard/cpu) will get outdated before the 16 gb ram becomes obsolete (i know 16 works for now but things also require harder specs over time.)

[GeorgeMKane]

15 minutes ago, Balance of Judgement said:

looking at ordering some of the parts. if i'm not looking to upgrade for a while (hoping this one will be able to run what i want it to for at least 4 years) do you think i should look at doing 32 gb ram over 16, or is it just a waste beyond 16 gb because the other parts (motherboard/cpu) will get outdated before the 16 gb ram becomes obsolete (i know 16 works for now but things also require harder specs over time.)

You can go for 32GB of RAM. 32GB of 3200MHz CL16 RAM is at a good price. Definitely helps with AAA gaming, and general multitasking. AAA gaming companies keep bumping up system requirements. A few years ago you only needed 6-8GB of RAM, and now they're at like 12-16GB of RAM recommended.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-memory-f43200c16d32gvk

Edited June 5, 2022 by GeorgeMKane

[Balance of Judgement]

18 minutes ago, GeorgeMKane said:

You can go for 32GB of RAM. 32GB of 3200MHz CL16 RAM is at a good price. Definitely helps with AAA gaming, and general multitasking. AAA gaming companies keep bumping up system requirements. A few years ago you only needed 6-8GB of RAM, and now they're at like 12-16GB of RAM recommended.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-memory-f43200c16d32gvk

thanks, that was kind of my concern there, especially since i do tend to keep multiple applications open at once, lol. appreciate the help!

[Balance of Judgement]

On 6/4/2022 at 8:53 PM, GeorgeMKane said:

You can go for 32GB of RAM. 32GB of 3200MHz CL16 RAM is at a good price. Definitely helps with AAA gaming, and general multitasking. AAA gaming companies keep bumping up system requirements. A few years ago you only needed 6-8GB of RAM, and now they're at like 12-16GB of RAM recommended.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-memory-f43200c16d32gvk

sorry if this is a dumb question on the above. how big a difference would i notice between the 12700 and 12700k CPU for what i'm using, im assuming he suggested the 12700 because the 12700k would be overkill for my needs and uses extra power (and would probably need a bigger power supply at that point) but figured i'd ask

[brob]

With appropriate cooling and BIOS settings there can be a relatively small performance differential, https://www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/. 

[Balance of Judgement]

5 hours ago, brob said:

With appropriate cooling and BIOS settings there can be a relatively small performance differential, https://www.techspot.com/review/2391-intel-core-i7-12700/. 

thanks again for the help. i appreciate it