Ship Stats

[rucdoc]

Greetings all. I bring you this thread for the discussion of the information of the stats for the ships.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgihfVnEaLDjdEhHSXBxdzZnTktVenNqWi1EQVJhdFE&usp=sharing

 

Above is a break down of the ship statistic as listed on the web site. it will be modified as we get release data for the ships.

 

If you have any sugestions for additions to the pages please let me know and I will see what I can do.

[rustikles]

Is a polar bear really 700kg/m^3? hahaha

 

(It was on the doc, I'm not just derailing the thread already)

[rucdoc]

when pulped, sifted, and compressed, yes it is

[DamDirtyApe]

Lovin' it! Our own statistic and intelligence manager, Rucca, Rucca, Rucca, Rucca!

[rucdoc]

We now have stats on 40 ships. I am working on adding it all to the sheet atm, the MISC Hull C is insane btw

[Semphis Rythorn]

So the Avenger is now a zoom and boom ship with a class 2 size 5 nose turret (A-10 wee)

[rucdoc]

Had a very short convo with one of the devs yesterday, with some rather heavy ideas imparted in a very short time.

 

1 Mass will not, atm, be limited in cargo containers, just volume

2 where you put the mass in your ship will be very important.

3 while you won't have a hard mass limit, atm, but at some point your ship will stop moving, and that might be an issue.

4 my spread sheet might not be able to handle the complex math needed for some of this.

[DamDirtyApe]

I remember on Wingman's, I think, they talked about how you place your cargo is up to you, but you'll also have the choice of tying it down? Or securing it? Curious to see how this works as well. Shouldn't be much of an issue since there's now looking to be a standard cargo container since it's a fixed volume as you stated.

[rucdoc]

oh yeah, dude if you don't secure your containers, they will shift and throw off your center of mass, and will probably result in the spin of death and or massive damage to your cargo and hold, and anyone in the hold.

[DamDirtyApe]

oh yeah, dude if you don't secure your containers, they will shift and throw off your center of mass, and will probably result in the spin of death and or massive damage to your cargo and hold, and anyone in the hold.

 

Wonder if you can loot bodies of passengers......

[rucdoc]

unconfirmed, maybe?

[DamDirtyApe]

unconfirmed, maybe?

 

Many "accidents" waiting to happen. Wonderful!

 

Imagine if you could process the same chart into the game as a message. So people could have an actual stat list in game in a message system or something. So our pirate/merc groups see a potential target ship, depending on where they came from they could on the fly work out some numbers on if it's worth attacking.

[rucdoc]

well without a cargo scan it would be hard, but I could identify certain ports and the major exports and thus list possible cargo loads being exported and which ships would possibly be carrying those loads. thus allowing them to better select targets in general for the area they are in.

[DamDirtyApe]

well without a cargo scan it would be hard, but I could identify certain ports and the major exports and thus list possible cargo loads being exported and which ships would possibly be carrying those loads. thus allowing them to better select targets in general for the area they are in.

 

Sounds like a job for our future think tank.

[thedomsaww]

YA that would be cool to have a cheat sheet to work out the max velocity of ship without cargo and and then enter the current velocity and be able to calc. approx mass of cargo.

[Lastknight]

Hey all i only have a aurora atm and was wondering what other ships would you guys recommend i was thinking and hornet but i heard about the f8 and was wondering if i should wait to try and buy that ship instead.

[rucdoc]

it depends on what you want to do. If you want to dog fight the hornet is good, the F8 was pulled from the stats page. I won't remove it because I want to know what changes are.

[rucdoc]

this is a test, only a test, but if there is any thing you would like to see stat wise show up on this page : http://www.dust514stats.com/SC/shiptest.cfm make a post and let me know, and I'll think about it

[ExiIe]

So the Avenger is now a zoom and boom ship with a class 2 size 5 nose turret (A-10 wee)

Yeah that's why I love it! 

I just hope it actually stands up in the game; and isn't nerfed into uselessness.

[rucdoc]

ok so I've been working on a payload layout and center of mass thing, it's the second to last sheet on the right, with the cutlass work in progess to the right of that. anyone mind looking at it and making sure I'm not completly in the weeds here?

[Maciek]

ok so I've been working on a payload layout and center of mass thing, it's the second to last sheet on the right, with the cutlass work in progess to the right of that. anyone mind looking at it and making sure I'm not completly in the weeds here?

 

I'd love to help, but I'm not quite sure I can read it right

Btw. shouldn't your hard work be somehow hidden from the hungry eyes of the whole world? In some super secret LTT safe? 

[rucdoc]

I don't like staying in the safe, it's stuffy, and too small.

 

and yeah the layout is a bit complex, because maths.

 

 

EDIT: did some color coding that should make some things a bit easier to understand.

[carolkarine]

I should note that having a rediculous amount of mass in your ship would not keep you from moving EVER, it would just limit acceleration to something incredibly small (.001m/s^2 or the like) because without any outside friction, there is no other forces acting on the ship besides the thrusters. as a result, in order for the mass to render the ship immobile it would need to be an infinite amount of mass.

 

this is because F=MA, and if we have a defined force 1000N, and a 1,000,000,000Kg ship, then acceleration would be A=(1000)/(1,000,000,000)=.000001m/s^2

 

this ship would move, just incredibly slowly.

 

sorry, I figured this technicality needed to be pointed out. other than that, I love your spreadsheets!

[rucdoc]

keeping things moving forever is easy, just don't reverse thrust.

[That Norwegian Guy]

So the Avenger is now a zoom and boom ship with a class 2 size 5 nose turret (A-10 wee)

 

Expect to have either power issues or overheating issues (depending if you mount an energy or projectile weapon) if you do mount a size 5 though