Best Linux based OS?

[Ultraforce]

1 hour ago, 10leej said:

Well when you see charts like this one you're not really stepping into an area where the "best" actually exists (that image isn't even the full scope of linux, just the Debian family of distro's).

 

It's also Debian family of distros from 2013, ZorinOS and Pop!_OS which are Ubuntu derivatives that are talked about by a few of the Linux related youtube channels didn't come out yet.

[jde3]

SuSE was one of the first distro's I ever used. (Suse 4.2 I believe, I had the box set for a long time)

It has ALWAYS been a quality desktop distro with lots of spit and polish as opposed to other distros.

[jde3]

Also add..

I like computers from 1989 (and have a glorious Unix neckbeard)?
Try Tribblix

Of course that is Illumos (Solaris) and not Linux but still.. it's unique, modern and has a certain look to it.

For those that don't know, that is CDE with the Mosaic browser on an updated modern system, whoa.. It's not fake or weird like templeOS or anything This OS can actually play (some) steam games native using it's linux translation layer. (lxzone)

 

[Ultraforce]

8 hours ago, jde3 said:

Also add..

I like computers from 1989 (and have a glorious Unix neckbeard)?
Try Tribblix

Of course that is Illumos (Solaris) and not Linux but still.. it's unique, modern and has a certain look to it.

For those that don't know, that is CDE with the Mosaic browser on an updated modern system, whoa.. It's not fake or weird like templeOS or anything This OS can actually play (some) steam games native using it's linux translation layer. (lxzone)

 

That looks really cool, but also definitely feels like one of those works for the person using it and might not for others. Not really sure how I'd want to set up a DE for ideal use for myself, but I feel like I'd want a bit less busy taskbar by default.

[SydneyBrokeIt]

For doing dev work, we semi-officially support Ubuntu at my day job.  You can use other things, but if you do, you might not get the help you need.  Some friends use Arch for their daily dev work, but honestly, having to rebuild every few months just... isn't what I'm here for.

 

As it stands right now, on Linux, pretty much everything has *some* way to get it installed on Ubuntu.

 

At my day job, I use Terraform, Golang, Ruby, Python, and Node.js, and all of them can be installed, just about any version I need, through either the package manager, homebrew, or asdf.

[jde3]

5 hours ago, Ultraforce said:

That looks really cool, but also definitely feels like one of those works for the person using it and might not for others. Not really sure how I'd want to set up a DE for ideal use for myself, but I feel like I'd want a bit less busy taskbar by default.

Not for the faint of heart. Mostly it's just cool retro.

That Taskbar.. is.. Well the design predates windows 95. Minimized apps are iconizfied on the desktop (they zoom down to an icon on the side) and the "dock thing" or aka panel has drawers that open up vertically with apps in them. CDE is pretty strange. - XFCE was originally a clone of it but has moved on. (way on)

NeXTStep is similar and was around during that time too and we all know what that turned into (MacOS) - Window Maker is a clone of NeXTStep

[betalars]

I'd argue one of the most promising and technically interesting distros right now is NixOS.

But I'm still afraid to touch that beast right now. But I see it becoming my new main (coming from arch btw)

[jde3]

23 hours ago, betalars said:

I'd argue one of the most promising and technically interesting distros right now is NixOS.

But I'm still afraid to touch that beast right now. But I see it becoming my new main (coming from arch btw)

NixOS is Linux, and Linux suffers from.. well... being Linux.. and having nobody designing it or being in charge of it's direction since it's definition as an OS is "just the kernel".

Corporations influence it and mold it to suit their own goals of maintaining dominance and sell commercial services upon it, The two worst offenders of this are RedHat (an IBM owned company) and Google, tho Amazon, Facebook and Oracle do their part as well.

Being that it's fractured on the system level few things are ever fixed in it, only replaced and technical advancements in it are usually built upon broken models and frameworks and rarely re-engineered from scratch. People with good ideas don't have control over the various open source projects to be able to implement them.

 

Take the new oomd introduced in it as an example. This is a user space utility to kill programs when the system is under memory pressure but the entire reason it exists is because Linux's in kernel OOM killer does not work. It's a band-aid userland utility to fix something broken in the kernel. Other OS's do no have this problem. (I've tested FreeBSD's in kernel OOM killer and where as it's simple, it works every time) - So instead of doing the hard work to make the in kernel OOM killer work they took the easy road and "fixed it" with this. Now you need to run this because the kernel will hang if you don't.. great. And this isn't the only example lots of the system is in userspace when it should be in the kernel. dbus for example, why isn't it? Because it's easier and you can let selinux worry about all the problems later.

One has to ask, how can you build skyscrapers when you can't get the easy stuff right? You can't use python duct tape and sed to fix every problem.. but this seems to be the approach Linux usually takes these days.

Different approaches are done in other OS's such as Illumos, FreeBSD and Redoux. Where the people designing them have full control over the OS, not just the kernel. I've used Linux since the 90's and I can't say for certain anymore it will maintain it's popularity over the next two decades.

[betalars]

1 hour ago, jde3 said:

Corporations influence it and mold it to suit their own goals of maintaining dominance and sell commercial services upon it, The two worst offenders of this are RedHat (an IBM owned company) and Google, tho Amazon, Facebook and Oracle do their part as well

yeah, that honestly kind of worries me too ... especially now that Microsoft is on bord, witch is known to first embrace and then break competing systems.

 

But I am also without a doubt not educated enough on how linux or it's community actually works to come up with good suggestions here. Just a designer using FOSS software happily naively running their arch here.

[Giganthrax]

On 3/9/2022 at 7:02 PM, DarkGamerA said:

for me its ZORIN OS

+1

 

I use Zorin Core on my work laptop and it's really sleek, stable, and user-friendly. No real complaints here.

 

I also used plenty of Linux Mint Mate, and I'm quite happy with it. 

 

I wouldnt use any Linux Distro if your priority is gaming however.

[rohi21]

Check Archcraft for ease of setting up whilst still enjoying all the benefits of Arch Linux! https://github.com/archcraft-os/archcraft

[PigBenis99]

On 3/9/2022 at 11:12 PM, splootbloot said:

you read the title. discuss...

 

For me it is debian, I use cinnamon DE which feels a lot better to me for as a beginner.

[OlivePigeon609]

I have tried over 20 distros and ended up with CentOS Stream on my desktop and POP!_OS on my laptop.

I'm using CentOS Stream becouse I just want something upstream and stable on my workstation and POP!_OS on my laptop becouse it runs better than anything I tried on it.

[TorC]

On 3/13/2022 at 1:52 AM, jde3 said:

NixOS is Linux, and Linux suffers from.. well... being Linux.. and having nobody designing it or being in charge of it's direction since it's definition as an OS is "just the kernel".

Corporations influence it and mold it to suit their own goals of maintaining dominance and sell commercial services upon it, The two worst offenders of this are RedHat (an IBM owned company) and Google, tho Amazon, Facebook and Oracle do their part as well.

Being that it's fractured on the system level few things are ever fixed in it, only replaced and technical advancements in it are usually built upon broken models and frameworks and rarely re-engineered from scratch. People with good ideas don't have control over the various open source projects to be able to implement them.

 . . .

Different approaches are done in other OS's such as Illumos, FreeBSD and Redoux. Where the people designing them have full control over the OS, not just the kernel. I've used Linux since the 90's and I can't say for certain anymore it will maintain it's popularity over the next two decades.

If GNU/Linux survives its corporatization it will be due to common-goal communities surrounding a core of zealots dedicated to the distro.  Slackware and PCLinuxOS, for example.  Both surround a founding individual with a vision for what a GNU/Linux distribution should entail and encompass.  I draw a line where Mark Shuttleworth is concerned I would have to say.   

[jde3]

34 minutes ago, TorC said:

If GNU/Linux survives its corporatization it will be due to common-goal communities surrounding a core of zealots dedicated to the distro.  Slackware and PCLinuxOS, for example.  Both surround a founding individual with a vision for what a GNU/Linux distribution should entail and encompass.  I draw a line where Mark Shuttleworth is concerned I would have to say.   

I'm sort of of the opinion we already lost this battle. - It was really exciting back in 200? to see IBM run the first Linux ad's.. we didn't know we were sowing our doom.

 

Far as Shuttleworth well.... his primary competition is IBM-hat now so.. I trust him more than I do them..

On 3/20/2022 at 8:17 AM, OlivePigeon609 said:

CentOS Stream becouse I just want something upstream and stable

One the same note.. Pretty sure IBM made that distro for the sole reason to push ppl to pay for a RHEL subscription.

[Master Disaster]

On 3/16/2022 at 8:12 AM, rohi21 said:

Check Archcraft for ease of setting up whilst still enjoying all the benefits of Arch Linux! https://github.com/archcraft-os/archcraft

The problem with Arch install scripts is that the target for them is the same people that probably shouldn't be using Arch.

 

If you don't know how to handle a fully manual install (which is fine, not everyone has time, motivation or the need to learn Linux to that point) then don't take the shortcut and end up in the deep end of the pool realising that you don't know how to swim.

 

This is what pushes newcomers away.

[cretsiah]

Best Linux Distro would be the one that actually works on and recognises your hardware.

 

for me that would now be Linux Mint Debian Edition 5

 

 

[Jaykrish]

it depends if you are an IT professional you should go for Kali linux , Parrot Os etc but if you are just a normal user you should go for Ubuntu , pop os , manjaro , zorin os

Hope this helped you to make a decision

[YamiYukiSenpai]

I love Kubuntu, and it has been my default since college (around the time Ubuntu stopped working on Unity).  I have it on my new gaming desktop and my laptop.

[FUIT1985]

On 3/9/2022 at 6:42 PM, splootbloot said:

you read the title. discuss...

 

A good argument for a flaming war

[10leej]

14 hours ago, FUIT1985 said:

A good argument for a flaming war

Don't revive dead posts please.

[FUIT1985]

8 hours ago, 10leej said:

Don't revive dead posts please.

I just commented an active discussion.