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I've got a PC running from early 2010s. The same hardware, no upgrades done. It's got a i5-3300 running on-board graphics for about 10 years. Intel stock air cooler (it seriously works). some off-the-street power supply that by miracle hasn't blown up for the speed at which the fan runs. It's got some random intel desktop board whose credentials I'm honestly too tired to google. 32-bit, so yeah, 4 gigs memory 😕 Runs at 70% usage for windows. I don't know whether ddr4 works with 32 bit, but currently running ddr3. stock speed 1333, To show how long ago it was, as a cherry on top, my dad got this over a cheaper one as it had a friggin Optical drive (internal). Yeah, that was a decision-maker those days. I was 6 or something so obviously it was a improvement over a laptop as it was well, bigger. It was 150$ when brought, and that was " does the job - (my mom) ". Ran a pirated copy of win 7.

 

TLDR - old cheapo computer, too young when brought to think of modifying , used for basic power point and word. no internet usage.

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Now to get it out of the way, it came with a 1 tb hdd.

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(idk whether this was intentional or what, but it was allocated barely 200gigs. As i was well -6 I thought my dad was bluffing when he said it was 1 tb. He's a doc, so he had no idea and bought a 2tb drive without realizing he was being fleeced. this happened in '16). again, he knew nothing about sata and internal HDD's so he went to the same store all this while. And guess what, he returned with just 450gigs of added storage. The store said and I quote.

 

" redundancy as - if the hdd failed, the same data would be copied 4 times and could be recovered more easily. and some tomfoolery about data safety and such. "

Dad didn't get a word obviously. No raid shit. Just 1 drive with data copied 4 times over. We didn't think we would ever need more so blindly got it

 

Now with about 2 drives it was fine until we got internet in '17 and I subbed to ltt in '19. Guy gave me everything I know about PCMR. I finally allocated all the storage. Then switched to win 10. Then gave a finger to the gate and opened it for puppy. all fine till then.

 

 

TLDR - 2 drives, 1tb and 2 tb. the OS was running on 1 tb. I started have a fetish of uniformity.

 

I wanted videos (movies and shows ) to be in the videos folder. music tracks to be in the music folder. Obviously it wont be possible with the OS on 1tb drive so I got puppy on the 2tb drive (pop-OS) and kept the OS on the 1 tb as it is.

 

Then one day, I basically crashed all of myself onto the pc. It's on the floor and I tripped. Thought of it to be nothing. a week passed by and I heard clicks from the PC. goosebumps flew over me. Immediately opened the PC, kept it on the desk and to my expected horror the click sounded to come from the 2tb hdd. I made the best out of any data I could salvage and got a ssd. transferred it to be the only OS drive and copied the data on the 2tb drive onto a new 4 tb drive. one thing that happened with the 2 tb drive was that I was not able to log onto it as the OS redirected me to the ubuntu box something. I remember going onto google and some forum post said it was because the OS was tampered with. reckoned it was cause of the tripping so I copied all the data back. funnily I was able to copy it with no problems, like no pop-ups and shit. I could completely access every movie file I had(from another drive with linux file system) (I should have known at the time. ) After I made sure all files had been copied, I tried to play with it and funnily I was able to login a few times, and after some time, it would redirect me back. Some magic I thought. I avoided storing files on that drive mostly with it having only a few movies I was willing to lose.

a month later, or two months from today, to my surprise the drive failed. But wait!, not the 2 tb, rather the 1 tb. It made some beep sound when sata power plugged in and showed only 4 gigs of capacity. Classic hdd failure. luckily I copied all the data wayy before this onto the new 4tb cause I thought well, why not.

I realized the 2 tb never " failed " rather it was the OS which failed. This happened a hella lotta times with puppy and shows how with the perfect situation, anything can fool anyone. But what STILL goes past me is how I was still able to log into the 1 tb drive a month later even though it " failed " ?

And I guarantee it couldn't have failed when I tripped because when i heard clicks, only two drives were present and the 2 tb drive still works today perfectly as a plex media house kinda.

The Takeaway from this is that

  1. either the 1 tb hdd failed and came after life for me to copy data.

  2. the 2 tb died when I heard clicks and the 1 tb failed later. And that the 2 tb drive STILL is in its afterlife trying to stay alive. but I just wanna know how a drive could still work after it clicked, failed an Os simultaneously and works at a better speed than before.

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Okay just a bit of a backdrop.

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I've got a PC running from early 2010s. The same hardware, no upgrades done. It's got a i5-3300 running on-board graphics for about 10 years. Intel stock air cooler (it seriously works). some off-the-street power supply that by miracle hasn't blown up for the speed at which the fan runs. It's got some random intel desktop board whose credentials I'm honestly too tired to google. 32-bit, so yeah, 4 gigs memory 😕 Runs at 70% usage for windows. I don't know whether ddr4 works with 32 bit, but currently running ddr3. stock speed 1333, To show how long ago it was, as a cherry on top, my dad got this over a cheaper one as it had a friggin Optical drive (internal). Yeah, that was a decision-maker those days. I was 6 or something so obviously it was a improvement over a laptop as it was well, bigger. It was 150$ when brought, and that was " does the job - (my mom) ". Ran a pirated copy of win 7.

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TLDR - old cheapo computer, too young when brought to think of modifying , used for basic power point and word. no internet usage.

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Now to get it out of the way, it came with a 1 tb hdd. (idk whether this was intentional or what, but it was allocated barely 200gigs. As i was well -6 I thought my dad was bluffing when he said it was 1 tb. He's a doc, so he had no idea and bought a 2tb drive without realizing he was being fleeced. this happened in '16). again, he knew nothing about sata and internal HDD's so he went to the same store all this while. And guess what, he returned with just 5450gigs of added storage. The store said and I quote.

" redundancy as - if the hdd failed, the same data would be copied 4 times and could be recovered more easily. and some tomfoolery about data safety and such. "

Dad didn't get a word obviously. No raid shit. Just 1 drive with data copied 4 times over. We didn't think we would ever need more so blindly got it

Now with about 2 drives it was fine until we got internet in '17 and I subbed to ltt in '19. Guy gave me everything I know about PCMR. I finally allocated all the storage. Then switched to win 10. Then gave a finger to the gate and opened it for puppy. all fine till then.

 

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TLDR - 2 drives, 1tb and 2 tb. the OS was running on 1 tb. I started have a fetish of uniformity. I wanted videos (movies and shows ) to be in the videos folder. music tracks to be in the music folder. Obviously it wont be possible with the OS on 1tb drive so I got puppy on the 2tb drive (pop-OS) and kept the OS on the 1 tb as it is.

Then one day, I basically crashed all of myself onto the pc. It's on the floor and I tripped. Thought of it to be nothing. a week passed by and I heard clicks from the PC. goosebumps flew over me. Immediately opened the PC, kept it on the desk and to my expected horror the click sounded to come from the 2tb hdd. I made the best out of any data I could salvage and got a ssd. transferred it to be the only OS drive and copied the data on the 2tb drive onto a new 4 tb drive. one thing that happened with the 2 tb drive was that I was not able to log onto it as the OS redirected me to the ubuntu box something. I remember going onto google and some forum post said it was because the OS was tampered with. reckoned it was cause of the tripping so I copied all the data back. funnily I was able to copy it with no problems, like no pop-ups and shit. I could completely access every movie file I had(from another drive with linux file system) (I should have known at the time. ) After I made sure all files had been copied, I tried to play with it and funnily I was able to login a few times, and after some time, it would redirect me back. Some magic I thought. I avoided storing files on that drive mostly with it having only a few movies I was willing to lose.

a month later, or two months from today, to my surprise the drive failed. But wait!, not the 2 tb, rather the 1 tb. It made some beep sound when sata power plugged in and showed only 4 gigs of capacity. Classic hdd failure. luckily I copied all the data wayy before this onto the new 4tb cause I thought well, why not.

I realized the 2 tb never " failed " rather it was the OS which failed. This happened a hella lotta times with puppy and shows how with the perfect situation, anything can fool anyone. But what STILL goes past me is how I was still able to log into the 1 tb drive a month later even though it " failed " ?

And I guarantee it couldn't have failed when I tripped because when i heard clicks, only two drives were present and the 2 tb drive still works today perfectly as a plex media house kinda.

The Takeaway from this is that

  1. either the 1 tb hdd failed and came after life for me to copy data.

  2. the 2 tb died when I heard clicks and the 1 tb failed later. And that the 2 tb drive STILL is in its afterlife trying to stay alive. but I just wanna know how a drive could still work after it clicked, failed an Os simultaneously and works at a better speed than before.

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

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ok well, it shows up in windows disk utility with only 4 gigs of allowable storage. And some forum post on toms hardware guide said it to be broken anyways. It beeps when SATA power is plugged in. SO yeah, it was DEFINITELY turned on. and it's broken, doesn't work on any other system, not able to format it too.

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When I tripped onto the PC, the 1 tb hdd broke. But if it DID break, I was able to use it as an OS drive for about a month before it started to like, malfunction. which means my hdd came to its afterlife.

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when I tripped onto the PC, the 2 TB hdd broke, and then due to some other unknown reason the 1 tb hdd broke later on. This is quite common honestly, hdd break, especially ones that were in use for 10 years.  But if the 2 tb hdd is broken, it STILLL to this day works! Which means the 2 TB hdd came into its afterlife.

whatever be the case, I safely kept the 1 tb just in case it decided to come back again. and it was my first ever hdd I used, the first ever that failed, so has some form of dark nostalgia to it I guess.

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