First PC Build

[Sakura_Marina]

Hi everyone ^^ I need some help for my build ^^

 

Budget (including currency): Currency is CLP, below 4000000 CLP this is not a strict requirement, but cheaper the better.

Country: Chile

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, Maya, Toon Boom Harmonix and Storyboard, Zbrush, Adobe Suit, and others for 2D/3D animation, games are not a priority

Parts I found online:

Cpu:Ryzen 9 5950X 

Price:769900 CLP

I chose this one for the number of cores

https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/product&path=460_473_367&product_id=11097

Cpu Cooler:

I have no idea which one to buy

Gpu: RTX 3080 TI

Price: 1739900 CLP

This is the cheapest I could find, I chose the 3080 ti for it render times in Blender

https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/product&path=460_475_159&product_id=12038&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

Storage: M2:Corsair 1TB MP600 HDD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda

I chose the MP600 because of the speed and the 1800 TBW , as for the Seagate it's because of the 7200 rmp

Price: 189990+57990

https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/39908-corsair-unidad-ssd-1tb-pcie-nvme-gen4-m-2-mp600-w-heatsink

https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/32517-seagate-disco-duro-pc-2tb-barracuda

Ram:

I'm unsure about which one to buy

Motherboard:

I found the cheapest one at 159900 CLP I'm not sure if I need something better

https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/product&path=460_472_369&product_id=9434&sort=p.price&order=ASC

Psu: Asus Thor 850W or 1200W

Price: 285990 or 399990

Case:

Again, no idea which one to buy

Monitors

I read that an IPS with 100% sRGB is ideal for animation so I was going to get this monitor: https://www.pcfactory.cl/producto/37250-asus-monitor-diseno-27-pa278qv-wqhd-panel-ips-hdmi

 

Other details:

For the CPU and GPU I would like to keep those that I found, everything else can be changed

I need this pc to render fast, transfer data to external storage fast as well since I will be studying and will have to carry projects around

I was told that 8GB of ram was the bare minimum I should get, I read that for fluid simulation 64GB was recommended, I was planning on getting 32GB in a single stick so I could upgrade to 128GB in the future. since I'm unsure of what I will do later on I tried to future proof a bit. Is that going over board a bit? What should I get? Should I go with 2x16GB instead? will I ever need 128GB of ram?

I watched the video from Linus Tech Tips about ram density but didn't understood it, where do the manufacturers put that info on their websites?

I searched a bit about the motherboard and found out that the X570 chip would be the best choice

I chose the thor psu since it has platinum certification and every penny saved on electricity is welcome, but I'm not sure if it will make a real difference an 850W Gold cost about half the price of the thor 850W, I know the cost of KWH is about 0.35 USD or 291 CLP

I was planning to buy windows from their website but if I can find a retail key cheaper it would be welcome

I tried to follow the recommendations in this site: https://www.cgdirector.com/best-computer-3d-modeling-rendering/

but I may have gone a little overboard, I haven't touched a desktop roughly since 2012 it was a pentium 4 with ubuntu, and my last pc was a 2011 laptop which I upgrade the ram with an amd cpu and linux lite

 

 

Down below I will put links to components

Cpu Cooler:https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=460_473_169&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://www.pcfactory.cl/refrigeracion?categoria=42&papa=633

Ram: https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=72_126&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://www.pcfactory.cl/memorias-pc?categoria=112&papa=264

Motherboard: https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=460_472_369&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://www.pcfactory.cl/placas-madres-amd-sam4?categoria=838&papa=292

Psu:https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=460_461_279&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://www.pcfactory.cl/fuentes-de-poder-psu-?categoria=54&papa=633

Case:https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=460_462_120&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=460_462_119

https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=460_462_278

https://www.pcfactory.cl/gabinetes?categoria=326&papa=633

Storage: HDD: https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=62_413_101&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://www.pcfactory.cl/discos-duros-pc?categoria=340&papa=312

SSD:https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=62_331_407&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=62_331_406&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=62_331_408&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://www.pcfactory.cl/discos-ssd?categoria=585&papa=312

Monitor: https://www.pcfactory.cl/monitores?categoria=995&papa=256
https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=73_523_128&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=73_523_129&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

https://tienda.pc-express.cl/index.php?route=product/category&path=73_523_171&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=100

 

 

[brob]

While the links are useful, a simple list of components would make it a lot easier to quickly understand the build.

 

Using a single stick of memory will lose you at least 5%, probably more performance. The Ryzen architecture supports and exploits dual channel memory operation. If the budget allows for 32GB, get a 2x16GB ddr4-3600 CL16 kit.?

 

The motherboard is okay. See the mother vrm tier list for other choices. (https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/)

 

If the budget allows, replace the HDD with an SSD.

 

Meshify 2 and Pure Base 500DX are good case choices. Corsair 4000D Airflow is also popular.

 

As a general recommendation the NH-D15S and NH-U12A are good cpu cooler choices. Both will do an excellent job and have no memory encroachment issues.

 

 

You may want to check out the i9-12900k reviews. It is proving to be very good at tasks in your use case. Core count is not the only factor that affects performance, even in highly multi-threaded cpu rendering jobs.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-12th-gen/6.html

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/12th-Gen-Intel-Core-CPU-Review-Roundup-2248/#V-RayCPURendering

 

[Sakura_Marina]

15 hours ago, brob said:

While the links are useful, a simple list of components would make it a lot easier to quickly understand the build.

 

Using a single stick of memory will lose you at least 5%, probably more performance. The Ryzen architecture supports and exploits dual channel memory operation. If the budget allows for 32GB, get a 2x16GB ddr4-3600 CL16 kit.?

 

The motherboard is okay. See the mother vrm tier list for other choices. (https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/)

 

If the budget allows, replace the HDD with an SSD.

 

Meshify 2 and Pure Base 500DX are good case choices. Corsair 4000D Airflow is also popular.

 

As a general recommendation the NH-D15S and NH-U12A are good cpu cooler choices. Both will do an excellent job and have no memory encroachment issues.

 

 

You may want to check out the i9-12900k reviews. It is proving to be very good at tasks in your use case. Core count is not the only factor that affects performance, even in highly multi-threaded cpu rendering jobs.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-12th-gen/6.html

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/12th-Gen-Intel-Core-CPU-Review-Roundup-2248/#V-RayCPURendering

 

Thanks for the reply ^^

I'll go with two ram sticks as you suggested, I'll look at the motherboards tier list and see if I can find one of those here.

Is there a difference between the Pure Base 500DX and the Corsair 4000D Airflow? I kinda like the 500DX design a bit more.

I can't find any Noctua cooler here, do you have an other recommendation?

I took a look at the links you posted, while it's true that the 12900k is slightly better, the power consumption is almost twice as much than the 5950x, so i'm not sure it's worth it.

 

[brob]

Are bequiet or scythe available?

 

A cpu that has 20% higher performance can easily justify 20% higher power consumption. If the system is being used professionally an even larger difference is justifiable by lower labor costs. 

 

Simply comparing theoretical or laboratory power numbers is not an accurate gauge of actual power consumption. Power used depends a great deal on the actual programs running. Besides, unless the cost of power is outrageously high the difference on a power bill will not be noticeable.

 

[Sakura_Marina]

bequiet are available, I'm probably doing calculations wrong because for the amd setup it would cost me about 161 usd by month and for intel its about 197 usd, in Chilean currency it does impact quiet a bit that 36$

[brob]

How many kilowatt-hours do you figure each system would use each month?

[Sakura_Marina]

I'm using this website to calculate: https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator, I put it at 24/7 on both the Computer Utilization Time and Gaming/Video Editing/3D Rendering Time I know it's not the actual time I'll be using it, but I also know I'll have to leave it render overnight a couple of days from time to time. For amd it gave me $1933.21/year and divided by 12 it's $161,1/month, and for intel it's $2359.49/year and $196.62/month

[brob]

I suspect you are vastly over estimating usage. If you are only rendering overnight "a couple of days from time to time", say on average once a week, your actual consumption will be 1 / 52 of the time calculated for that work.

 

You know roughly the number of hours that will be spent infront of the system each day. During that time the system will be at the low end of its consumption curve. Most cores will be idle and active cores will not be fully loaded.

 

I suspect a realistic estimate of rendering time would be 4 hrs/day or 28 hours a week. Perhaps two overnight rendering jobs a week. Likely the cost difference is only a few $ per week. But this does not account for renderings being faster on the one platform meaning actual cpu load times will be lower on the one system.

[Sakura_Marina]

I think I'll stay away from the 12900k unless i can find better rendering times on  blender/3d software since it's seems to consume way more power and be less efficient in that area.

[brob]

3 hours ago, Sakura_Marina said:

I think I'll stay away from the 12900k unless i can find better rendering times on  blender/3d software since it's seems to consume way more power and be less efficient in that area.

 

Worrying about power consumption is silly. It doesn't account for productivity improvements as a result of the added power consumption. I would also argue that in real world use the power cost differential will be quite small.

 

The results I've seen suggest the i9 is better in some and worse in other Blender renders. If one is only doing rendering the 5950x might have an edge. Toss in Adobe suite, games, etc. and the balance shifts.

 

Pick what you feel comfortable with. Both cpu are excellent.

[Sakura_Marina]

Yeah, I saw the i9 beats the 5950x on most of the tasks except on 3d rendering which is my main focus. So I'll stick with amd for now.

Thanks for helping me out ^^

[ahmad13610]

change to intel 12th

 

the motherboard pretty more solid and more future tech