Need help with AMD Build

[Philusaphur]

Budget (including currency): 2500

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): From the Hit game Minecraft to the less popular game Battlefield 2042.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xKCyvf

 

I'm trying to help a friend out, to build his first PC. The problem is the only builds I've done before is Intel and I haven't been keeping up with the latest techs. He's planning on a long term PC build. The GPU his planning to get is a 3070 but that's when it goes on stock in the local best buy. I'm just wondering if any of you more knowledgeable folks know of a better build than what I've put together here.

[Jurrunio]

The case has no price tag, I assume some of it are already bought? 

[Philusaphur]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The case has no price tag, I assume some of it are already bought? 

Oops here you go https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ff7WW3

[RONOTHAN##]

I'd wait till you actually have a 3070 in hand before you do the build. There no telling how long until you can actually get a 3070, could be a week, could be 2 months, and by the time you get one, Alder Lake will probably be out, and Ryzen 6000 will be just around the corner if not already out. Stuff will change enough between now and then that any finishing touches you put on the system is out of date. 

[Jonathan Lee]

I would recommending 32GB ram if you can afford it.

 

You can go down to B550 mobo and save money there.

 

I would also go to a 1TB nvme drive with dram instead of current storage configuration. Here are some I would recommend:

Mushkin Pilot-E

Silicon Power P34A80

PNY CS2130

 

Here's an example build:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($499.00 @ Canada Computers) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($167.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($157.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Mushkin Pilot-E 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($128.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($165.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1349.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-20 16:15 EDT-0400

 

Intel is also a pretty good option. They have so good prices with their 10th gen CPU's:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700KF 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($384.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490 UD AC-Y1 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Canada Computers) 
 

[Philusaphur]

2 hours ago, Jonathan Lee said:

I would recommending 32GB ram if you can afford it.

 

You can go down to B550 mobo and save money there.

 

I would also go to a 1TB nvme drive with dram instead of current storage configuration. Here are some I would recommend:

Mushkin Pilot-E

Silicon Power P34A80

PNY CS2130

 

Here's an example build:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($499.00 @ Canada Computers) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($167.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($157.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Mushkin Pilot-E 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($128.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($165.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1349.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-20 16:15 EDT-0400

 

Intel is also a pretty good option. They have so good prices with their 10th gen CPU's:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700KF 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($384.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490 UD AC-Y1 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Canada Computers) 
 

Whats the point of goin for 32gb of ram if I may ask?

[Jonathan Lee]

16 minutes ago, Philusaphur said:

Whats the point of goin for 32gb of ram if I may ask?

Mainly so you won't need to mess with your computer for awhile. I assume your friend would at least keep the computer for 2-4 years (perhaps longer) and the requirements for games slowly creep up over time. While you can always upgrade to 32 GB later, you might get issues in placing a 2nd kit of ram into the system. Better do it so everything works already.

 

Second reason which is more personal: Makes system overall more responsive and snappy. Generally, I don't like closing all my programs I have running when I decide to run a game. It's a nice experience to leave chrome, discord, steam and other programs hanging in the background and jump right into the game without worrying about compromising my experience.

 

Windows also generally compresses ram and memory swaps with the SSD if you're at the top end of your ram. This can reduce the life of both components (although this might be negligible difference). Windows will actually use more ram if it's available too. For example, I had 16 GB of ram and it looks like I typically 8-9GB of ram, but about 3 GB of compressed ram. When I added another 2x16GB kit (yes I'm crazy boi), I noticed my ram jumped to about 10-12GB when gaming (sometimes 14) with no compressed ram. The extra ram is also used as a cache so that when you open up a program again it will load faster.

 

Even with that said, I think 16GB would still be fine for most situations. It's not too hard to add ram later so it's your call.