ram cooling Looking for a compatible RAM block

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I'm building a new pc, and I'm planning on custom loop cooling, which I've never done before

 

 

 

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-128gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374065

 

I eventually chose this RAM, and it doesn't seem that optimus sells RAM blocks, so what does sell high-end RAM blocks? Apparently this one isn't compatible https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-ram-monarch-x4-nickel

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RAM waterblock are kinda useless on DDR4. Save your money, there's a reason why basically every build you've seen in the past 5-10 years as avoided using RAM water blocks, it's just unnecessary restriction being placed on the loop.

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6 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

RAM waterblock are kinda useless on DDR4. Save your money, there's a reason why basically every build you've seen in the past 5-10 years as avoided using RAM water blocks, it's just unnecessary restriction being placed on the loop.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-128gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374065

 

it's DDR4, maybe 5 by the time I buy the PC

 

 

also I'm not going to be saving money

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1 minute ago, Finnegan1616 said:

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-128gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374065

 

it's DDR4, maybe 5 by the time I buy the PC

 

 

also I'm not going to be saving money

That doesn't change anything. Coming from someone who advocated for custom loops, it's a waste of money. There are only two components in the modern system that produce enough heat to bother trying to water cool: the CPU and the GPU. Focus on these, get nice blocks for them. Use the ~$150 you were going to spend on the RAM water block on some extra RGB or something, or maybe some extra rotary fittings since they really do come in handy.

 

Maybe when DDR5 comes out the story will change, but that's a big maybe. Everything at this point is purely speculative, and if you're going to build it once they do come out, consider it then, not now since whatever you build won't be compatible with that.

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1 minute ago, RONOTHAN## said:

That doesn't change anything. Coming from someone who advocated for custom loops, it's a waste of money. There are only two components in the modern system that produce enough heat to bother trying to water cool: the CPU and the GPU. Focus on these, get nice blocks for them. Use the ~$150 you were going to spend on the RAM water block on some extra RGB or something, or maybe some extra rotary fittings since they really do come in handy.

 

Maybe when DDR5 comes out the story will change, but that's a big maybe. Everything at this point is purely speculative, and if you're going to build it once they do come out, consider it then, not now since whatever you build won't be compatible with that.

I have essentially everything in the PC water cooled, including the storage

 

 

also I get that most parts will need to be changed, but at the same time, knowing the parts now can help plan it out in the future

 

nvidia will prob be the best GPU, Sabrent/WD/Samsung will probably still be the best storages, Optimus will probaby still have the highet-quality cpu/gpu blocks, etc

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1 minute ago, Finnegan1616 said:

have essentially everything in the PC water cooled, including the storage

Again, don't. This will actually reduce the performance of everything due to the reduction in performance. Storage doesn't need to be water cooled, it barely needs to be air cooled. 

 

Also, this is your first custom loop. It is complicated, so you don't any more complexity than CPU, GPU, Pump/Res combo, and a radiator. The extra blocks that you're trying to add make it more complex and thus a decent amount harder for your first build. Overall, getting these isn't a good idea. 

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19 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Again, don't. This will actually reduce the performance of everything due to the reduction in performance. Storage doesn't need to be water cooled, it barely needs to be air cooled. 

 

Also, this is your first custom loop. It is complicated, so you don't any more complexity than CPU, GPU, Pump/Res combo, and a radiator. The extra blocks that you're trying to add make it more complex and thus a decent amount harder for your first build. Overall, getting these isn't a good idea. 

how does more cooling cause a reduction in performance?

also there's a stacked power supply (1600w), so if you were going to say that, it's not a problem

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1 hour ago, Finnegan1616 said:

how does more cooling cause a reduction in performance?

also there's a stacked power supply (1600w), so if you were going to say that, it's not a problem

It can reduce performance because of added restriction. Every water block in a loop adds restriction, and therefore decrease water flow. In order to make that up, you'll either have to increase the pump speed and deal with higher noise levels (which defeats half the reason for custom water loops) or deal with worse temps. Also it adds more heat to the loop, though that isn't much. 

 

Also, you know you don't need that beefy of a PSU? Unless you're doing crazy world record overclocking, you probably won't go above 1000w, or if you're doing 3090 SLI 1200w.

 

Look, it's you're money and you're allowed to do whatever you want with it, but RAM and storage water blocks are kind of like buying a golden toilet; you only ever get it for the flex, it doesn't improve usability or add any features, and most people will just wonder "Why?"

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15 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It can reduce performance because of added restriction. Every water block in a loop adds restriction, and therefore decrease water flow. In order to make that up, you'll either have to increase the pump speed and deal with higher noise levels (which defeats half the reason for custom water loops) or deal with worse temps. Also it adds more heat to the loop, though that isn't much. 

 

Also, you know you don't need that beefy of a PSU? Unless you're doing crazy world record overclocking, you probably won't go above 1000w, or if you're doing 3090 SLI 1200w.

 

Look, it's you're money and you're allowed to do whatever you want with it, but RAM and storage water blocks are kind of like buying a golden toilet; you only ever get it for the flex, it doesn't improve usability or add any features, and most people will just wonder "Why?"

I was sort of thinking about multiple loops with separate pumps

 

it's the only "realistic" way to use 2 480mm radiators, a 420, and a 240

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10 minutes ago, Finnegan1616 said:

I was sort of thinking about multiple loops with separate pumps

 

it's the only "realistic" way to use 2 480mm radiators, a 420, and a 240

Except radiators don't actually introduce any resistance. It's effectively the same flow rate as tubing. You can do multiple loops, it's a good way to fill up really large cases, but I wouldn't call it necessary if you just have a ton of radiators.

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9 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Except radiators don't actually introduce any resistance. It's effectively the same flow rate as tubing. You can do multiple loops, it's a good way to fill up really large cases, but I wouldn't call it necessary if you just have a ton of radiators.

it has a CPU block, GPU block, 2 SSD blocks, and as you can tell I'm working on a RAM block