First time pc build

[ezionomoney]

Budget (not including GPU for obv reasons): 800€

Country: Italy, EU (yes, I'm specifying it, I'm dumb)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

All Assassin's Creed franchise games, except the newer ones; CS:GO for sure, and maybe the latest CODs such as MW2019 but I'm the kind of person low graphic and 60 fps are good enough for. 

No streaming (very nice 3 megabit wifi I have at home).

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Long personal introduction (if you want, skip to the next paragraph):

Understand me: I had never had the opportunity to "game" because my dad has been into macs since I wasn't even born, so I had only macs in my house. I've been playing a little bit of Minecraft for the last 5 years on my Early 2015 Mac Book Air 11", so... not great. This year things are different, even in my head, so I'm looking for a low-decent pc, both for university and games.

 

Without knowing pretty much anything about PCs, I've done a ton of research, watched Linus videos, and spent time looking for AMD CPUs and motherboards when I make up my mind and decided first to go with an integrated graphics card and after GPU shortage will be over I'll probably buy an RTX 2060.

Here's the list: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jz6yGq

Feel free to adit to edit any of its components.

Also, I did not include:

• motherboard
• monitor
• mouse and keyboard 

'cause I'm clueless so every advice is welcome.

 

[Guest]

Even without a GPU this is an extremely tight budget. You have four options here:

 

1. Go with used parts

(Since this is your first computer, I would advise against that since you may not be able to troubleshoot some minor issues. No warranty is also a problem)

 

2. Build a weaker computer than what you have currently specced.

(Building new low-end machines is almost never a good option, since it costs more than getting a pre-built)

 

3. Save up money, and revisit the option of building a computer in some time

(A better option that will make you most satisfied in the long run, better price-to-performance)

 

4. Purchase a laptop

(This may give you more freedom for university and is cheaper than building a PC right now in the EU. No need for a new monitor, keyboard, webcam, mic, etc.)

 

 

[Dr0idGh0sT]

2 hours ago, Konrad_K said:

Even without a GPU this is an extremely tight budget. You have four options here:

 

1. Go with used parts

(Since this is your first computer, I would advise against that since you may not be able to troubleshoot some minor issues. No warranty is also a problem)

 

2. Build a weaker computer than what you have currently specced.

(Building new low-end machines is almost never a good option, since it costs more than getting a pre-built)

 

3. Save up money, and revisit the option of building a computer in some time

(A better option that will make you most satisfied in the long run, better price-to-performance)

 

4. Purchase a laptop

(This may give you more freedom for university and is cheaper than building a PC right now in the EU. No need for a new monitor, keyboard, webcam, mic, etc.)

 

 

There is fifth option, That is to build system on 5000G series CPU and play on it before GPU be available for you..

 

[ezionomoney]

3 hours ago, Konrad_K said:

Even without a GPU this is an extremely tight budget. You have four options here:

 

1. Go with used parts

(Since this is your first computer, I would advise against that since you may not be able to troubleshoot some minor issues. No warranty is also a problem)

 

2. Build a weaker computer than what you have currently specced.

(Building new low-end machines is almost never a good option, since it costs more than getting a pre-built)

 

3. Save up money, and revisit the option of building a computer in some time

(A better option that will make you most satisfied in the long run, better price-to-performance)

 

4. Purchase a laptop

(This may give you more freedom for university and is cheaper than building a PC right now in the EU. No need for a new monitor, keyboard, webcam, mic, etc.)

 

 

First of all, I need to thank you for the response, but here's a couple of things:

• I already have a laptop that, despite being 5 years old, works just fine and does everything I expect from it. I'm not like one of my friends (jk, he's the only one that I have) that recently purchased a 1500€+ gaming laptop "for university", except that the battery lasts just 4 hours and if he would have to take notes, he could enjoy Word at 144hz.
• I'll admit, I may have set a budget that was too tight. In addition to that, all the prebuilds that I managed to find made no sense to me and were everything than reasonably priced.
• Speaking about the third point you made... yes, you are right, but 19 years? I've waited too much and I'm not expecting my budget to grow much and I'm not expecting myself to overuse this machine for the next 5 years.

After all of this, I need to make up my mind. Would you advise me to set the budget around 900-1000€ then? 

[ezionomoney]

41 minutes ago, Dr0idGh0sT said:

There is fifth option, That is to build system on 5000G series CPU and play on it before GPU be available for you..

 

Do you recommend the Ryzen 5 5600G for a little less than 300€?

[Guest]

10 hours ago, ezionomoney said:

 

First of all, I need to thank you for the response, but here's a couple of things:

• I already have a laptop that, despite being 5 years old, works just fine and does everything I expect from it. I'm not like one of my friends (jk, he's the only one that I have) that recently purchased a 1500€+ gaming laptop "for university", except that the battery lasts just 4 hours and if he would have to take notes, he could enjoy Word at 144hz.
• I'll admit, I may have set a budget that was too tight. In addition to that, all the prebuilts that I managed to find made no sense to me and were everything than reasonably priced.
• Speaking about the third point you made... yes, you are right, but 19 years? I've waited too much and I'm not expecting my budget to grow much and I'm not expecting myself to overuse this machine for the next 5 years.

After all of this, I need to make up my mind. Would you advise me to set the budget around 900-1000€ then? 

1. Build advice:

 

I would recommend setting a budget around 1400-1500 for the whole set-up with peripherals at least. I suppose the GPU can wait and be added later, but things such as a monitor can't be easily upgraded, so I would recommend allocating more money towards the things that you can't upgrade. Other important components you can't upgrade would be the power supply and motherboard. i.e. you can add more ram or another SSD, but swapping the motherboard or power supply will make you loose money since you end up with components that have no use, and can't be sold at a full price.

 

2. My (personal) advice:

 

With that said, if you are to build a computer now, you still won't have a GPU, and what you end up with is a very expensive office PC, that is capable of doing similar tasks to your laptop but takes up more space. Therefore not making the investment of ~1000 euro worth it at that moment. So I would hold off for a little longer and see if you actually have the need and time for a gaming computer at university, and then purchase all the components at once.

[Dr0idGh0sT]

6 hours ago, ezionomoney said:

Do you recommend the Ryzen 5 5600G for a little less than 300€?

If you can reach 1000 euros, You can get this + GPU, You might be able to get 6600XT or 3060 maybe, It's hard but you can search.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/ykCqGq

 

Or yes, 5600G, But if you plan to buy GPU later, When prices balance little, Otherwise there is no point buying G series CPU, because It don't have that much of iGPU power to handle games well for long time.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/MgDfqp