Parents computer integrated gpu

[Ertman]

Budget (including currency): $600 Canuck Bucks

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: for parents to use. basic productivity, web surfing, transcoding Plex server (not 4K), room for some more advanced uses.

Other details : not for gaming. No dedicated GPU, must use an iGPU. Not planning on overclocking. this a computer for my parents to use. They would like the computer to be quick and functional for 6-10 years. I do NOT need a case. Previous computer was an OEM i5-4440 where it’s motherboard died.

 

recap

CPU

Motherboard -MicroAtx.

Ram

500gb SSD

PSU

 

I have my own ideas, but I would like to source the forum for other considerations.

 

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HMzbmk

Maybe something like this?

[GeorgeMKane]

You may not NEED a case, but you'll probably want one. Much easier to upgrade in later.

 

A lot of room for upgrades here. More case fans, m.2 nvme ssd, case can hold a dedicated gpu just fine (and the psu can easily provide enough power for something like a gtx 1660 super/ti, if necessary later), and the motherboard has 4 ram slots.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/T9bN8J

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($251.25 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B460M D3H Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.19 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($59.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $582.91

[Ertman]

6 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HMzbmk

Maybe something like this?

Hi thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. The 5600G is something I was considering.

 

i do have a concern or two going with a 5600G. Is the price premium over an i5 build (similar to what GeorgeKane presented) worth it? And the other more pressing concern would be whether or not the motherboards’ BIOS, even a 550, would support it out of the box. 
 

Honestly,  I would even go with a bit more  savings and get a B450 board (Asrock B450 Pro4 2.0) as I wouldn’t see much benefit (ex PCIE 4.0) of a B550, but that only significantly increases the likelihood of an issue with the BIOS.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

4 minutes ago, Ertman said:

Hi thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. The 5600G is something I was considering.

 

i do have a concern or two going with a 5600G. Is the price premium over an i5 build (similar to what GeorgeKane presented) worth it? And the other more pressing concern would be whether or not the motherboards’ BIOS, even a 550, would support it out of the box. 
 

Honestly,  I would even go with a bit more  savings and get a B450 board (Asrock B450 Pro4 2.0) as I wouldn’t see much benefit (ex PCIE 4.0) of a B550, but that only significantly increases the likelihood of an issue with the BIOS.

I guess you can save abit on the board, though pcie 4.0 does not equal more bios problems

 

And im pretty sure the 5600g is worth it since its more efficient and has better igpu than an i5, though an i7 10700 is prob the same price as the 5600g if your parents need an 8 core for some reason

[Ertman]

6 hours ago, GeorgeMKane said:

You may not NEED a case, but you'll probably want one. Much easier to upgrade in later.

 

A lot of room for upgrades here. More case fans, m.2 nvme ssd, case can hold a dedicated gpu just fine (and the psu can easily provide enough power for something like a gtx 1660 super/ti, if necessary later), and the motherboard has 4 ram slots.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/T9bN8J

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($251.25 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B460M D3H Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($59.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.19 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($59.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $582.91

Also thank you for sharing you thoughts, options and especially for being mindful of the budget.

 

I do not NEED a case because, and I probably should have been more clear, I already had a case in mind and I didn’t want it to affect the remaining budget as people provided their personal preferences. It was never an intention to build a cardboard test bench.
 

Along with the pricier and newer 5600G, I was considering a 10400 build. Looking at the part picker, would going with a 10600k (obviously not for over locking given the board and the users) be a reasonable alternative for $20 more, or would the power usage be a worse option than the expected performance boost?

 

 

[GeorgeMKane]

The i5-10600k definitely does have a higher core clock speed, but idk if that warrants the price increase for a build like this. Would recommend getting m.2 nvme ssd storage instead then, for the speed increase you're looking for... New motherboard comes with a m.2 heatsink, so you won't have to worry about thermals there. Also went for 16GB of RAM. You can stick with the 8gb RAM I had in the other build list, if you want to keep the price down. I figured get 16GB now, so they won't have to upgrade later.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JJDr4d

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($251.25 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B560M-A Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($94.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
$596.21

[Ertman]

21 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

I guess you can save abit on the board, though pcie 4.0 does not equal more bios problems

 

And im pretty sure the 5600g is worth it since its more efficient and has better igpu than an i5, though an i7 10700 is prob the same price as the 5600g if your parents need an 8 core for some reason

Sorry what I meant was that the B450’s BIOS would be even more likely out of date. This might be an insurmountable problem since I don’t have access to a earlier CPU to do a BIOS update. Would a B550 board work if it hasn’t been updated to the bios with the 5500G support?

 

The PCIE comment was about One of the trade offs for the B450 board is the lack of PCIE 4.0, which is something the 5600g doesn’t support anyways.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, Ertman said:

Sorry what I meant was that the B450’s BIOS would be even more likely out of date. This might be an insurmountable problem since I don’t have access to a earlier CPU to do a BIOS update. Would a B550 board work if it hasn’t been updated to the bios with the 5500G support?

 

The PCIE comment was about One of the trade offs for the B450 board is the lack of PCIE 4.0, which is something the 5600g doesn’t support anyways.

Your bios will either be already updated by the seller or if it isnt most mobos have bios flashback so you can update your bios without a cpu

[thewelshbrummie]

Plex transcoding at 1080p worked fine on my Ivy Bridge dual core CPU so Intel Quad would seem like a good option here. It depends on the lifespan you have in mind - that would likely be fine for 6 years. 10 years? I'd probably go 6 core now, just to potentially avoid any need to upgrade the system later on.

 

I'd probably stick with an Intel build, simply as there's more choice in mATX motherboards vs AMD - that was a requirement for me and I couldn't find anything AMD based that had all of the features I wanted, so I stuck with an Intel build so I could get what I wanted.