Ryzen 7 5800x problem

[HoldMyBeerMF]

I have msi mag b550 tomahawk and Ryzen 7 5800x. When I ordered it at first it was working until I decided to change cooler. It came with click bios which I did not like so I updated the bios. Then I removed everything, installed my liquid freezer and ez debug led started glowing red on CPU. I thought I bricked my CPU but when I tried troubleshooting it turns that that following happens: with PSU plugged in with only 24 pin and 8 pin cables and nothing else in the motherboard the CPU debug led us still glowing red. Is there any way to tell if it is a motherboard issue or CPU issue? 

 

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, HoldMyBeerMF said:

It came with click bios which I did not like so I updated the bios

What do you mean by this? And what BIOS version did you upgrade to?

[HoldMyBeerMF]

9 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

What do you mean by this? And what BIOS version did you upgrade to?

There is a thing called click bios for MSI motherboards. Looks smth like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=click+bios&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo3&prmd=ivmn&sxsrf=ALeKk02RDFVGvu-twJ-gJuwYnHWPgVaIVg:1629497778575&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwic4YOi0MDyAhVj_7sIHYclCcEQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=393&bih=712&dpr=2.75#imgrc=JVMBYvC4KEn9wM

 

 

And I updated it to the latest non-beta bios version available on MSI website for this motherboard

[GuiltySpark_]

 

26 minutes ago, HoldMyBeerMF said:

It came with click bios which I did not like so I updated the bios. 

 

 

Ok, so lets break this down.

 

You didn't like a screen/option in the BIOS so you updated the BIOS (which btw will have that same screen/option). This part is still very unclear.

 

We need to know a lot more information starting with how exactly did you update the BIOS? Power off flashback method with a USB stick? From inside the BIOS? Using a Windows application inside Windows?

 

Without knowing anything else, what I would do is a clean BIOS flash using the USB method and the BIOS flash button on your motherboard. Outlined here: 

 

[Fasauceome]

10 minutes ago, HoldMyBeerMF said:

There is a thing called click bios for MSI motherboards. Looks smth like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=click+bios&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo3&prmd=ivmn&sxsrf=ALeKk02RDFVGvu-twJ-gJuwYnHWPgVaIVg:1629497778575&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwic4YOi0MDyAhVj_7sIHYclCcEQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=393&bih=712&dpr=2.75#imgrc=JVMBYvC4KEn9wM

 

 

And I updated it to the latest non-beta bios version available on MSI website for this motherboard

Must be part of their little "one click" family of features. Anyway if you update your BIOS. I believe you did not get rid of this click feature.

 

Are you currently failing to get video output from your system?

[HoldMyBeerMF]

7 minutes ago, rickeo said:

 

 

Ok, so lets break this down.

 

You didn't like a screen/option in the BIOS so you updated the BIOS (which btw will have that same screen/option). This part is still very unclear.

 

We need to know a lot more information starting with how exactly did you update the BIOS? Power off flashback method with a USB stick? From inside the BIOS? Using a Windows application inside Windows?

 

Without knowing anything else, what I would do is a clean BIOS flash using the USB method and the BIOS flash button on your motherboard. Outlined here: 

 

I did the exact same thing the guy in the video did because it is literally the first one you find when looking up b550 mag tomahawk bios update. And I did not like the click bios 5 the motherboard came with because it was freezing most of the time and was uncomfortable to use and was older than the latest one. I have absolutely no idea why you are so hung up on it. If it is so crucial I'd like to know why. 

[HoldMyBeerMF]

9 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Must be part of their little "one click" family of features. Anyway if you update your BIOS. I believe you did not get rid of this click feature.

 

Are you currently failing to get video output from your system?

When I plug in everything including GPU, CPU, cooker fans, case fans etc. I get the lighting going off but I don't have bios screen. And regardless of whether or not CPU is plugged in ez debug led is glowing red. I don't have any case speakers so unfortunately I don't know if there is a distinct POST code there, just led. It's not much, sorry

[GuiltySpark_]

1 minute ago, HoldMyBeerMF said:

I did the exact same thing the guy in the video did because it is literally the first one you find when looking up b550 mag tomahawk bios update. And I did not like the click bios 5 the motherboard came with because it was freezing most of the time and was uncomfortable to use and was older than the latest one. I have absolutely no idea why you are so hung up on it. If it is so crucial I'd like to know why. 

I think you have a misunderstanding about what Click Bios is. Its just a marketing name MSI puts on their BIOS screens. Every BIOS available for that board will have that same branding. 

 

If you updated the BIOS using that method and now you can't boot, something went wrong with the BIOS flash and I'm suggesting you do it again. That or you damaged the CPU somehow swapping coolers. 

[HoldMyBeerMF]

1 minute ago, rickeo said:

I think you have a misunderstanding about what Click Bios is. Its just a marketing name MSI puts on their BIOS screens. Every BIOS available for that board will have that same branding. 

 

If you updated the BIOS using that method and now you can't boot, something went wrong with the BIOS flash and I'm suggesting you do it again. That or you damaged the CPU somehow swapping coolers. 

The led is on even without CPU plugged in. I don't think it is CPU problem because if it and I'm not sure where to go further

[GuiltySpark_]

The CPU debug LED will obviously be lit if there is no CPU in the socket. 

 

I'm not sure if you maybe missed my first suggestion but re-do that BIOS flash, its entirely possible it didn't complete fully and is now corrupted which would explain this. 

[HoldMyBeerMF]

Just now, rickeo said:

The CPU debug LED will obviously be lit if there is no CPU in the socket. 

 

I'm not sure if you maybe missed my first suggestion but re-do that BIOS flash, its entirely possible it didn't complete fully and is now corrupted which would explain this. 

Why other led are not on then. I don't have anything plugged in at all when this happens. In addition, I did flash it once more and then grounded myself and pulled CMOS battery out. Fir hour or so. It is still on. 

[GuiltySpark_]

Good luck man. 

[Fasauceome]

2 hours ago, HoldMyBeerMF said:

When I plug in everything including GPU, CPU, cooker fans, case fans etc. I get the lighting going off but I don't have bios screen. And regardless of whether or not CPU is plugged in ez debug led is glowing red. I don't have any case speakers so unfortunately I don't know if there is a distinct POST code there, just led. It's not much, sorry

Monitor is plugged into GPU and not motherboard?

[HoldMyBeerMF]

15 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Monitor is plugged into GPU and not motherboard?

I think I was not clear enough: with everything properly set up: GPU, monitor, SATA, CPU, RAM it has the CPU LED on and does not give visual response and even keyboard does not light up

Without ANYTHING plugged in, just cables of 24 pin motherboard and 8 pin processor it still has CPU LED glowing with red

[Fasauceome]

10 hours ago, HoldMyBeerMF said:

Without ANYTHING plugged in, just cables of 24 pin motherboard and 8 pin processor it still has CPU LED glowing with red

How many times did you attempt BIOS flash?

[HoldMyBeerMF]

8 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

How many times did you attempt BIOS flash?

Tried two times 
and tried resetting it with CMOS bat 1 time but I left it for an hour

[Fasauceome]

2 hours ago, HoldMyBeerMF said:

Tried two times 
and tried resetting it with CMOS bat 1 time but I left it for an hour

I usually have more success when I reset the CMOS with jumpers or CMOS button