First Build, thoughts?

[Bischxf]

Hello,

that's the plan for first build. It should be silent and shouldn't have overpriced components. But paying like 10€/10$ more shouldn't be a problem.

 

Budget : 700€-800€/820$-930$

Country: Germany 

Games that it will be used for: mainly competitive Shooter

Other details: 

The prices (that are the lowest I could find) are included for reference in EUR and US-Dollar

 

CPU:  Ryzen 5 5600G  269€/315$

 

GPU: In the future I'll add a 3060ti or 3070 (that's why the PSU has such a high wattage) for now the GPU isn't included in the budget because you can't even buy one now 

 

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming II  79€/92$

 

SSD: Samsung 980 1 TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2  109€/127$

 

Ram:  Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz CL18 Black  89€/104$

 

PSU: STRAIGHT POWER 11 650W Gold  99€/115$ Better options?

 

CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Slim  40€/45€

 

Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Black  85€/99$

 

makes in total around 757€/887$ 

 

I'm just going to buy the pc no peripherals. I already have those.

I would like to buy it as soon as possible 

1x 1080p 144hrz display but I'm not gonna use it's full potential with the iGPU 

 

I'm happy with my selection of the parts but the PSU is very pricy. Are the any silent PSUs out there which are cheaper? Or are there any more optimizations for the System?

btw I know that I can't use the usb-c port from the frontpanel-IO but I'm fine with that and sorry for bad english 

 

[heli1337]

6 minutes ago, Bischxf said:

STRAIGHT POWER 11 650W Gold

Maybe try to find Corsair RM650X, but it's still a good build.

Try to find B550 motherboard imo.

[Bischxf]

Thanks! I'll search after b550 board tomorrow but I don't have high hopes 

[Forleb]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ynv2Jf

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.00 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING SE-224-XT 76.16 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S7 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.90 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $843.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-10 20:10 EDT-0400

 

The 5600G is not a hot chip; I use the SE-224-XT for my 5600X, and it takes serious effort to get it above 70C. 500 series chipsets are required to use Ryzen 5000 CPUs, and I can also personally confirm as a buyer that the Gaming Plus is a great deal.

 

Corsair's iCUE doesn't like to talk with other software, so swapping to the G.Skill RAM ensures you can control your RGB much easier. 3200-16 is also more optimal for Ryzen than 3600-18, as it depends more on latency than raw speeds once you hit that 3000 mark.

 

While a 980 Pro is great as an SSD, I can guarantee you will never utilize its full speed, or even the one I chose; I could have gone SATA, but truthfully, the value compromise for lower volumes of storage makes NVMe the best choice.

 

Corsair PSUs are good, but Enermax arguably has the best value high-power units out there right now. 650W is cutting it very close for a 3060 Ti or 3070 due to its random power spikes, so 750W ensures that you won't trip something for no real reason.

[IkeaGnome]

14 minutes ago, Forleb said:

500 series chipsets are required to use Ryzen 5000 CPUs, and I can also personally confirm as a buyer that the Gaming Plus is a great deal.

I agree with the Gaming Plus, I use the ITX version of it. However, a lot of B450 and X470 motherboards do support Zen 3.

https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-ii-model/helpdesk_cpu

[Bischxf]

50 minutes ago, Forleb said:

 3200-16 is also more optimal for Ryzen than 3600-18, as it depends more on latency than raw speeds once you hit that 3000 mark.

 

 

Reply to Forleb:

I have question: You can see that performance changes (especially when you use an iGPU) when the speed of the ram is higher. So what's gonna bring more performance if you use an 3200-16 memory kit or a 3600-18?

 

At 8:14 he shows benchmarks with different ram speed and at 10:3 he shows benchmarks with different ram latency . So I would rahter take the faster memory because of the iGPU but if I had from the beginning on a external GPU I would go for lower latency aswell. Your other suggestions are very good, I wil keep them mind before buying my pc.

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

19 minutes ago, Bischxf said:

Reply to Forleb:

I have question: You can see that performance changes (especially when you use an iGPU) when the speed of the ram is higher. So what's gonna bring more performance if you use an 3200-16 memory kit or a 3600-18?

For replying you should use the reply button so the person you are replying to will get notified and continue giving more help

 

1 hour ago, Bischxf said:

Hello,

that's the plan for first build. It should be silent and shouldn't have overpriced components. But paying like 10€/10$ more shouldn't be a problem.

 

Budget : 700€-800€/820$-930$

Country: Germany 

Games that it will be used for: mainly competitive Shooter

Other details: 

The prices (that are the lowest I could find) are included for reference in EUR and US-Dollar

 

CPU:  Ryzen 5 5600G  269€/315$

 

GPU: In the future I'll add a 3060ti or 3070 (that's why the PSU has such a high wattage) for now the GPU isn't included in the budget because you can't even buy one now 

 

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming II  79€/92$

 

SSD: Samsung 980 1 TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2  109€/127$

 

Ram:  Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2x8GB) 3600MHz CL18 Black  89€/104$

 

PSU: STRAIGHT POWER 11 650W Gold  99€/115$ Better options?

 

CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Slim  40€/45€

 

Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Black  85€/99$

 

makes in total around 757€/887$ 

 

I'm just going to buy the pc no peripherals. I already have those.

I would like to buy it as soon as possible 

1x 1080p 144hrz display but I'm not gonna use it's full potential with the iGPU 

 

I'm happy with my selection of the parts but the PSU is very pricy. Are the any silent PSUs out there which are cheaper? Or are there any more optimizations for the System?

btw I know that I can't use the usb-c port from the frontpanel-IO but I'm fine with that and sorry for bad english 

 

the ram you chose is horribly overpriced, id suggest going for crucial ballistix 3600mhz since they are cl16 rams and not cl18, then just oc the crap out of the ram till the fclk gives up

 

Id choose a diff cooler cause dark rock slim is also overpriced, se 224 xt is a good option or any decent 4 heatpipe tower cooler like freezer 34, gammaxx 400, etc.

 

Good case though you can get cheaper options, usually something that i just throw out the window for these cheaper builds for max bang for buck

 

 

Btw you can just buy a regular psu, open it up, and swap the fan for a better one like be quiet pure wings

 

I dont reccomend it unless you know what you are doing, but then again ive opened psus even right after they were powered on and im still fine, but i think im just lucky

 

Not sure if theres any equipment to make opening the psu safer

 

 

You could just overbuy on the wattage so your psu fan doesnt need to ramp up as high, so go for an 850w, you wont need it now but in the future once you can get a gpu that 850w is gonna come in handy

[Bischxf]

11 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

the ram you chose is horribly overpriced, id suggest going for crucial ballistix 3600mhz since they are cl16 rams and not cl18, then just oc the crap out of the ram till the fclk gives up

 

Id choose a diff cooler cause dark rock slim is also overpriced, se 224 xt is a good option or any decent 4 heatpipe tower cooler like freezer 34, gammaxx 400, etc.

 

Good case though you can get cheaper options, usually something that i just throw out the window for these cheaper builds for max bang for buck

 

 

Btw you can just buy a regular psu, open it up, and swap the fan for a better one like be quiet pure wings

 

I dont reccomend it unless you know what you are doing, but then again ive opened psus even right after they were powered on and im still fine, but i think im just lucky

 

Not sure if theres any equipment to make opening the psu safer

 

 

You could just overbuy on the wattage so your psu fan doesnt need to ramp up as high, so go for an 850w, you wont need it now but in the future once you can get a gpu that 850w is gonna come in handy

 

Really thanks for the ram. Is it really the fan that makes the noises so you take like EVGA B5 750 W 80+ Bronze https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TxWBD3/evga-b5-750-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-b5-0750-v1, change the fan and it's silent?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 minutes ago, Bischxf said:

 

Really thanks for the ram. Is it really the fan that makes the noises so you take like EVGA B5 750 W 80+ Bronze https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TxWBD3/evga-b5-750-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-b5-0750-v1, change the fan and it's silent?

Well it depends on what fan you are using but i guess you could make it silent

[Forleb]

31 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

id suggest going for crucial ballistix 3600mhz since they are cl16

@BischxfFor just getting performance this is definitely the way to go, I was unsure how important the RGB was to you

[ShockWire]

9 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

For replying you should use the reply button so the person you are replying to will get notified and continue giving more help

 

the ram you chose is horribly overpriced, id suggest going for crucial ballistix 3600mhz since they are cl16 rams and not cl18, then just oc the crap out of the ram till the fclk gives up

 

Id choose a diff cooler cause dark rock slim is also overpriced, se 224 xt is a good option or any decent 4 heatpipe tower cooler like freezer 34, gammaxx 400, etc.

 

Good case though you can get cheaper options, usually something that i just throw out the window for these cheaper builds for max bang for buck

 

 

Btw you can just buy a regular psu, open it up, and swap the fan for a better one like be quiet pure wings

 

I dont reccomend it unless you know what you are doing, but then again ive opened psus even right after they were powered on and im still fine, but i think im just lucky

 

Not sure if theres any equipment to make opening the psu safer

 

 

You could just overbuy on the wattage so your psu fan doesnt need to ramp up as high, so go for an 850w, you wont need it now but in the future once you can get a gpu that 850w is gonna come in handy

Bit of an off topic question but is it possible to buy 2 x 16 3200MTs ram and oc it to 3600 or would it not be stable?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 minute ago, ShockWire said:

Bit of an off topic question but is it possible to buy 2 x 16 3200MTs ram and oc it to 3600 or would it not be stable?

Ofc its possible

Heck ive even heard of 3200mhz sticks running at 4000mhz, but thats just silicon lottery at that point

[ShockWire]

11 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Ofc its possible

Heck ive even heard of 3200mhz sticks running at 4000mhz, but thats just silicon lottery at that point

Is it worth going for 3200MTs and just oc it to 3600 to save money?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

3 hours ago, ShockWire said:

Is it worth going for 3200MTs and just oc it to 3600 to save money?

Yes, yes it is

Unless you are running 4 sticks of ram, good luck trying to overclock that