Recommended Custom PC Builder?

BloodWithIce · April 3, 2014

Why?

Because it runs hotter and louder. In some games the scaling is really bad so you won't get what you pay for.

Sorry to burst your bubble but 770 SLI destroys a single 780 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sli_review,1.html

Like I didn't know. I had sli and now I have a 780. Single cards are way way better.

NtB · April 3, 2014

Because it runs hotter and louder. In some games the scaling is really bad so you won't get what you pay for.

Like I didn't know. I had sli and now I have a 780. Single cards are way way better.

Well, in that article the Dual 770s run 1 degree hotter than one 770. Also, dual 770s have a DBa of 41, which is about the volume of your average living room.

Mitch3k · April 3, 2014

Because it runs hotter and louder. In some games the scaling is really bad so you won't get what you pay for.

Like I didn't know. I had sli and now I have a 780. Single cards are way way better.

I beg to differ, assuming you can put at least a single slot between the cards (which you can with this motherboard) they won't run that much hotter, The cooler on this card keeps it VERY quiet so the extra noise will be negligible. Nearly all new games have wonderful support for SLI and any older games that don't you will be able to run it wonderfully with a single card.

BloodWithIce · April 3, 2014

Go with this: this is the best you can get. Don't listen to other people saying sli is better. he guy above even selected a ram whi isn't compatible with your cpu AHAHAHA

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3l23w

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.99 @ NCIX US)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($103.95 @ Amazon)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.98 @ OutletPC)

Total: $1478.84

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-02 21:05 EDT-0400)

It's even watercooled

BloodWithIce · April 3, 2014

Well, in that article the Dual 770s run 1 degree hotter than one 770. Also, dual 770s have a DBa of 41, which is about the volume of your average living room.

EACH is 41. So it will be 82 eventually. And in a case like the 750D (which I own) cards don't get a lot of air. The case is designed for water cooling

BloodWithIce · April 3, 2014

I beg to differ, assuming you can put at least a single slot between the cards (which you can with this motherboard) they won't run that much hotter, The cooler on this card keeps it VERY quiet so the extra noise will be negligible. Nearly all new games have wonderful support for SLI and any older games that don't you will be able to run it wonderfully with a single card.

Have you ever had sli kiddo? I have and it's a tornado. If you leave a slot, the 3rd is going to be 4x and affect negatively the performance.

Mitch3k · April 3, 2014

EACH is 41. So it will be 82 eventually. And in a case like the 750D (which I own) cards don't get a lot of air. The case is designed for water cooling

Noise doesn't work like that……

Mitch3k · April 3, 2014

Have you ever had sli kiddo? I have and it's a tornado. If you leave a slot, the 3rd is going to be 4x and affect negatively the performance.

Thats also not true for this motherboard, and yes I HAVE had crossfire it's marginally louder. Sure if you put two stock cooled 290s in crossfire yea they will sound like a vacuum cleaner but thats not the case.

BloodWithIce · April 3, 2014

Thats also not true for this motherboard, and yes I HAVE had crossfire it's marginally louder. Sure if you put two stock cooled 290s in crossfire yea they will sound like a vacuum cleaner but thats not the case.

Still single card is better. Ask anyone around, they will say the same thing. If you really want to go sli with 770, you should know you are supposed to pick the 4gb ones...

Mitch3k · April 3, 2014

Still single card is better. Ask anyone around, they will say the same thing. If you really want to go sli with 770, you should know you are supposed to pick the 4gb ones...

Please define better. Two 4gb cards will cost an extra $150 and thats not in the budget, even two 2gb 770 will outperform a 780, even a 780ti.

BloodWithIce · April 3, 2014

Please define better. Two 4gb cards will cost an extra $150 and thats not in the budget, even two 2gb 770 will outperform a 780, even a 780ti.

When you sli 2 2g cards only 2 gb are used for both cards. When you use 4gb they use 4gb. One single 770 can't use as much as 4gb in 1080. But 2 can use 4 in 1600

Megazero · April 3, 2014

The problem with SLI isnt really with the heat and noise, it's more of stability, many games dont support SLI/Crossfire, which not only dont improve the performance but sometime outright decrease it, the VRAM of the 2 card dont add up, and some other stuff I cant think atop of my head now, But just remember this 1 golden rule: Always goes with a single power card compare to SLI/Crossfire if possible.

The build BloodWithIce give you is quite solid, though if you want to overclock I suggest switching the motherboard to MSI Z87 GD65, and if you dont I suggest switching the CPU to i5 4670 and a motherboard that dont really support OC much, it will be much cheaper.

NtB · April 3, 2014

The problem with SLI isnt really with the heat and noise, it's more of stability, many games dont support SLI/Crossfire, which not only dont improve the performance but sometime outright decrease it, the VRAM of the 2 card dont add up, and some other stuff I cant think atop of my head now, But just remember this 1 golden rule: Always goes with a single power card compare to SLI/Crossfire if possible.

The build BloodWithIce give you is quite solid, though if you want to overclock I suggest switching the motherboard to MSI Z87 GD65, and if you dont I suggest switching the CPU to i5 4670 and a motherboard that dont really support OC much, it will be much cheaper.

Go with this: this is the best you can get. Don't listen to other people saying sli is better. he guy above even selected a ram whi isn't compatible with your cpu AHAHAHA

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3l23w

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.99 @ NCIX US)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Corsair Neutron Series GTX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($103.95 @ Amazon)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.98 @ OutletPC)

Total: $1478.84

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-02 21:05 EDT-0400)
It's even watercooled

Please define better. Two 4gb cards will cost an extra $150 and thats not in the budget, even two 2gb 770 will outperform a 780, even a 780ti.

Is this good?

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/JamesFlint/saved/4fvK

Sorry, wrong link. Is this setup good?

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/JamesFlint/saved/4fYU

Edited April 3, 2014 by NtB

Mitch3k · April 3, 2014

Thats a gigantic case for just putting a single GPU and only a 240mm rad in. If you really like the obsidian line check out the 450D it will suit your needs just as well, otherwise I'd say go with an NZXT H440.

Megazero · April 3, 2014

Is this good?

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/JamesFlint/saved/4fvK

Sorry, wrong link. Is this setup good?

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/JamesFlint/saved/4fYU

Yeah it's ok, I forgot to mention this: the GD65 Motherboard have more benefit over the G45 just with the 2 more SATA port + OC friendly option like onboard power button, go2bios etc, so if you dont need those as in you dont use all 8 SATA port of the GD65 and you dont overclock so crazy and flashing bios of the Mobo like hell then G45 is also a valid choice for a cheaper price.

For the case it's more like a preference so like Mitch said you could go with a smaller case like 450D, I usually dont care about what case anyone choose for the build since it's base on color scheme and stuff more than the actually usefulness.

NtB · April 3, 2014

Yeah it's ok, I forgot to mention this: the GD65 Motherboard have more benefit over the G45 just with the 2 more SATA port + OC friendly option like onboard power button, go2bios etc, so if you dont need those as in you dont use all 8 SATA port of the GD65 and you dont overclock so crazy and flashing bios of the Mobo like hell then G45 is also a valid choice for a cheaper price.

For the case it's more like a preference so like Mitch said you could go with a smaller case like 450D, I usually dont care about what case anyone choose for the build since it's base on color scheme and stuff more than the actually usefulness.

So the G45 is good for minor overclocking? I'm not planning on going overboard with overclocking.

Megazero · April 3, 2014

So the G45 is good for minor overclocking? I'm not planning on going overboard with overclocking.

Yeah, all the Z87 board can be overclock, the G45 can be overclock as good sa GD65 I suppose?, it just that if you when WAYYYYY overboard and you screw something up then those option on GD65 would help.

NtB · April 4, 2014

Yeah, all the Z87 board can be overclock, the G45 can be overclock as good sa GD65 I suppose?, it just that if you when WAYYYYY overboard and you screw something up then those option on GD65 would help.

My friend told me to get a EVGA ACX 770. He said "If you buy a 770 now, you'll save a lot of money towards a newer card down the road, because you never know what games will need." Is that a good idea? My total came out to $1,314.67 when I switched to the 770.

Megazero · April 4, 2014

My friend told me to get a EVGA ACX 770. He said "If you buy a 770 now, you'll save a lot of money towards a newer card down the road, because you never know what games will need." Is that a good idea? My total came out to $1,314.67 when I switched to the 770.

While it's true that new series of GPU will come out soon (around the end of this year I suppose?), buying a 780 meaning that you dont have to change your graphic card for about 2-3 years more. It's true that we cant know what we will need, but the 780 is very powerful, and with the up coming Direct X 12 and all, it will allow the 780 to become even better, making it last longer, while the 770 will fall behind and you will probably have to upgrade in about 1-2 years. Think of it somewhere along these line: When the new 800 series come out, 780 will fall back to be as powerful as 770 now, which is still playable for most game at high setting, and the 770 will drop down to 760 or less.

NtB · April 7, 2014

While it's true that new series of GPU will come out soon (around the end of this year I suppose?), buying a 780 meaning that you dont have to change your graphic card for about 2-3 years more. It's true that we cant know what we will need, but the 780 is very powerful, and with the up coming Direct X 12 and all, it will allow the 780 to become even better, making it last longer, while the 770 will fall behind and you will probably have to upgrade in about 1-2 years. Think of it somewhere along these line: When the new 800 series come out, 780 will fall back to be as powerful as 770 now, which is still playable for most game at high setting, and the 770 will drop down to 760 or less.

Alright, thanks.

And if anybody else has suggestions, please let me know.