Issues with my PC

[Farm-Boy_7130]

So My build is 8 months old, also I’m new here and I don’t know where to ask these questions so if this is the wrong section I apologize. My pc specs are on my profile. Basically, I’ve lost an m.2, a motherboard, a psu and now that I’ve replaced it all at least once, the problems still persist. Not sure what’s wrong but it still randomly Blue screens (I did not catch the error code other than once on the m.2 which was the boot loader file for windows was missing), freezes on start often, blue screens on start often (I will put the error code on here next time I have it blue screen and I see it.) And the CPU (9900KF) Behaves Abnormally. Sometimes it thermal throttles down to 4.2 GHz (Task manager has this information) And sometimes it changes the overclock (Yes, It changes by itself.) randomly to different overclock levels. Like sometimes it runs a slight overclock and sometimes it’s a big one. It also has issues loading MINECRAFT, Yes MINECRAFT. If anyone knows what’s wrong (probably a cpu that I cannot afford to replace.) please reply with any information or questions you may have and I will get back to you as soon as I can. Thank you all for the help. 

[Lotinsh]

Have you tried reinstalling windows? Some files could be corrupted. Also you can install an app called WhoCrashed, it helps to diagnose what was the problem. You will need to first enable crash dump analysis and then use WhoCrashed. It will tell you what the error code means and possible fixes. Other possible thing that's crashing could be a faulty ram, you should run mem tests overnight. Check your cables and cooling. It also is possible that your old motherboard was too weak, motherboards with bad vrm cooling can fail when paired with beefy cpu's like intel 9. It is not necessarily the cpu's fault, it could have been just a bad motherboard. Also are you overclocking? I'm not sure but you should check if your psu has enough wattage for your setup, an intel i9 draws some power. There is a website where you can enter your each part to check how much watts you would need. Not enough power can be fatal. https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator https://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed

[Farm-Boy_7130]

2 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

Have you tried reinstalling windows? Some files could be corrupted. Also you can install an app called WhoCrashed, it helps to diagnose what was the problem. You will need to first enable crash dump analysis and then use WhoCrashed. It will tell you what the error code means and possible fixes. Other possible thing that's crashing could be a faulty ram, you should run mem tests overnight. Check your cables and cooling. It also is possible that your old motherboard was too weak, motherboards with bad vrm cooling can fail when paired with beefy cpu's like intel 9. It is not necessarily the cpu's fault, it could have been just a bad motherboard. Also are you overclocking? I'm not sure but you should check if your psu has enough wattage for your setup, an intel i9 draws some power. There is a website where you can enter your each part to check how much watts you would need. Not enough power can be fatal. https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator https://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed

It has enough power and Yes I am overclocking. Ram is possible seeing as I’ve had small issues with the ram (more of cosmetic issues than electrical issues) the old psu a more powerful psu and it had more issues. I fear that the overclock has damaged the cpu from a higher overclock than wat it can handle. It runs about 4.8 GHz max so I don’t think it is but I could be wrong. I have also reinstalled windows once. It’s not an operating system issue because both installs have had fatal issues. 

[Lotinsh]

Now I am NOT suggesting you to do this, this can lead to a total cpu failure, but I had a similar problem a while ago, except any parts didn't fail. My pc was crashing a lot I couldn't figure it out and it turned out my cpu wasn't getting enough voltage, so I increased it I believe by 0.2 volts and it went butter smooth, no crashes and everything was 100% fine. Though you could try doing that except doing that by 0.1 or even 0.05 volts, although be mindful that this is not a good solution and it's a very rare problem, I haven't seen anything online about it even when I searched this. 

You should run a memory test over night (memtest) to see if you have any problems with your ram.

Have you tried updating drivers? Drivers are very important.

Also you could check if it's the gpu if you have integrated graphics on your cpu, by taking out the gpu and checking if the crashes still happen, gpu and ram are one of the most often failing parts. 

Have you checked your thermals? Something could be overheating, anything that reaches 85+ degrees is considered too hot.

If you're using a hdd you could check for faulty sectors, although I'm pretty sure you mentioned that you have an nvme.

Hope this helps.

Edit: you can try to do some stress tests on your pc, there are many softwares for this, stress tests will run a gpu or a cpu heavy tasks to see if they run stably, you should try running both to see if any of them fails. They can be downloaded for free and are fairly simple to do. 

[Farm-Boy_7130]

1 minute ago, Lotinsh said:

Now I am NOT suggesting you to do this, this can lead to a total cpu failure, but I had a similar problem a while ago, except any parts didn't fail. My pc was crashing a lot I couldn't figure it out and it turned out my cpu wasn't getting enough voltage, so I increased it I believe by 0.2 volts and it went butter smooth, no crashes and everything was 100% fine. Though you could try doing that except doing that by 0.1 or even 0.05 volts, although be mindful that this is not a good solution and it's a very rare problem, I haven't seen anything online about it even when I searched this. 

You should run a memory test over night (memtest) to see if you have any problems with your ram.

Have you tried updating drivers? Drivers are very important.

Also you could check if it's the gpu if you have integrated graphics on your cpu, by taking out the gpu and checking if the crashes still happen, gpu and ram are one of the most often failing parts. 

Have you checked your thermals? Something could be overheating, anything that reaches 85+ degrees is considered too hot.

If you're using a hdd you could check for faulty sectors, although I'm pretty sure you mentioned that you have an nvme.

Hope this helps.

I'm now using a SATA SSD Because the Nvme M.2 Died (First install of windows and a result of these ongoing issues) And I do not have integrated graphics. It's a KF Chip so It's unlocked and does not have integrated graphics. I also keep up with driver updates regularly So I do not believe that is what is causing the issue but I could be wrong. If I just reset the overclock and put it back to stock would that possibly fix the issue instead of increasing voltage (I work at a farm but I'm only 14) because I'm not experienced and I can't exactly afford to replace it right now. Would making the speed stock work just the same?

[Lotinsh]

You should try not overclocking if you were his whole time, if it helps or reduces frequency of crashes it just might be a problem with your cpu. If it does reduce the amount of crashes but still does, you should underclock your cpu by a little, see if that helps reduce even more or get rid of them, if it does not help, then you can keep overclocking as long as your thermals are good, checking thermals is important.

[Farm-Boy_7130]

Just now, Lotinsh said:

You should try not overclocking if you were his whole time, if it helps or reduces frequency of crashes it just might be a problem with your cpu. If it does reduce the amount of crashes but still does, you should underclock your cpu by a little, see if that helps reduce even more or get rid of them, if it does not help, then you can keep overclocking as long as your thermals are good, checking thermals is important.

Okay I will try this, Thank you!

[Farm-Boy_7130]

14 minutes ago, Farm-Boy_7130 said:

Okay I will try this, Thank you!

Well It's clocked to 3.5 Ghz and now It won't boot above that. I guess I'm stuck here now.

[Lotinsh]

That's strange, what does it do when it tries to boot up?

[Farm-Boy_7130]

14 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

That's strange, what does it do when it tries to boot up?

Blue screen or say "Windows Failed to boot. Would you like to repair Windows?" I've basically had nothing but hell since I bought it and if I get a chance to sell it I will and I don't think I'll ever build another pc.

[Lotinsh]

This seems like a definitely some sort of cpu problem, can be caused by bent pins so I hope you haven't bent any of them. Seems like the most simple solution would be a new cpu, as you said you don't have much money  available i'd recommend going with something cheap, for example for gaming intel I5 10th gen does the job very well. Though I'm not certain that is 100% a cpu problem.

 

Don't be discouraged by pc problems, but if you are selling, I'd recommend selling your gpu now as it can go for 300-400$ on ebay. 

Building pc's is fun, though sometimes things like this happen. You should check for bent pins and try to fix them if there are, but if you are going to do that be very very careful as the cpu can stick to the cooler, also you'll need new thermal paste.

[Farm-Boy_7130]

1 minute ago, Lotinsh said:

This seems like a definitely some sort of cpu problem, can be caused by bent pins so I hope you haven't bent any of them. Seems like the most simple solution would be a new cpu, as you said you don't have much money  available i'd recommend going with something cheap, for example for gaming intel I5 10th gen does the job very well. Though I'm not certain that is 100% a cpu problem.

 

Don't be discouraged by pc problems, but if you are selling, I'd recommend selling your gpu now as it can go for 300-400$ on ebay. 

Building pc's is fun, though sometimes things like this happen. You should check for bent pins and try to fix them if there are, but if you are going to do that be very very careful as the cpu can stick to the cooler, also you'll need new thermal paste.

I'll check for bent pins although this motherboard is less than a month old. It's extremely new and the cpu was only installed once. I'm thankful for the encouragement and I'm aware I am easily discouraged. If I cannot figure this out I'm going to try to sell my pc for as much as I can get for it.

[Lotinsh]

I'd say selling your pc and building a new one would be amazing for you, your cpu still might hold value and your gpu could defenetly give you back 150% or even 200% value. I forgot that intel cpus have pins in motherboard as I'm used to amd, so it's most likely not neccesary to check for bent pins.

[Farm-Boy_7130]

14 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

I'd say selling your pc and building a new one would be amazing for you, your cpu still might hold value and your gpu could defenetly give you back 150% or even 200% value. I forgot that intel cpus have pins in motherboard as I'm used to amd, so it's most likely not neccesary to check for bent pins.

I think It's an overheating issue from Overclocking. I started minecraft, Yes the most cpu intensive game I have found for the weirdest reasons and it hit 80 degrees, Max is 72. I think The cpu is toast. 

[Lotinsh]

It's possible to be a thermal problem, are you using the stock cooler? Also for minecraft 80 degrees is bit too much, I have thermal issues too but I'm using my r5 3600's stock cooler, I'm getting a new one soon, and I'm getting 75 degrees, it shouldn't be that much most likely. If you're using the stock cooler a new one could resolve this issue.

[Lotinsh]

Seems like 80 degrees on minecraft might not be that much, how many fps are you getting?

[Farm-Boy_7130]

5 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

It's possible to be a thermal problem, are you using the stock cooler? Also for minecraft 80 degrees is bit too much, I have thermal issues too but I'm using my r5 3200g's stock cooler, I'm getting a new one soon, and I'm getting 75 degrees, it shouldn't be that much most likely. If you're using the stock cooler a new one could resolve this issue.

No, Be quiet Pure Rock 2 (Black) Is what I believe It's running. I don't remember specifically and It's also using Artic Silver 5 Thermal compound. 

[Farm-Boy_7130]

I only get 60 fps (V sync) with vsync off I get depending on the settings (usually 32 chunks) about 600-800 fps. Recently It's been more like 45 fps (with and without vsync on) And I had a higher refresh rate monitor but It got destroyed in an accident.

[Lotinsh]

Honestly considering you're using an intel i9 80 degrees might not be bad for it, but still could be the problem

 

[Lotinsh]

Are you using shaders? and how much fps are you getting at 16 chunks?

[Farm-Boy_7130]

Also noticing GPU temps have increased 8 degrees (usually idling it's about 30-32, Now It's 38-40) 

[Lotinsh]

Strange, cpu usually doesn't affect gpu temp's but 38-40 is still not bad so no need to worry unless you're getting 80+ while gaming

[Farm-Boy_7130]

16 Chunks, 170+ Fps.

[Farm-Boy_7130]

I re-applied thermal compound on the gpu so It should sit lower than normal (stock it usually sits around 35-37)

[Lotinsh]

Without shaders right?