Is this a suitable build?

[Meboi]

Budget (including currency): Trying to keep it below £1000 but currently its ~£1200. Max. £1250

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Rainbow Six Siege, a few COD games, Minecraft(May need to run a Minecraft server at the same time).

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

The current build is as follows:

• Case COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE

• Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

• Motherboard ASUS® STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!

• Memory (RAM) 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)

• Graphics Card 6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!

• 1^st Storage Drive 2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE

• 1^st M.2 SSD Drive 500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)

• Power Supply CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

• Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

• Processor Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition

• Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND

• Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

• Network Card 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)

• Wireless Network Card WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0

• USB/Thunderbolt Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

I don't know which would be useful but this is just the quote.

I was planning on using a 1080p monitor included in the budget and a second either 4k or same 1080p so that I could have a main monitor and a side one. Maybe a third but that's unlikely.

I'm getting a desktop instead of the laptop that I'm using at the moment as it's slowing down and I want more control over what my pc can do including future upgrades.
The build isn't finished and I'm not sure if its 'good'. It would be very helpful if someone could tell me if there are any improvements or budget cuts, things I don't need, that could be made. Thanks!

[Lakshya Siddhi]

8 minutes ago, Meboi said:

Budget (including currency): Trying to keep it below £1000 but currently its ~£1200. Max. £1250

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Rainbow Six Siege, a few COD games, Minecraft(May need to run a Minecraft server at the same time).

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

The current build is as follows:

• Case COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE

• Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

• Motherboard ASUS® STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!

• Memory (RAM) 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)

• Graphics Card 6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!

• 1^st Storage Drive 2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE

• 1^st M.2 SSD Drive 500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)

• Power Supply CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

• Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

• Processor Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition

• Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND

• Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

• Network Card 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)

• Wireless Network Card WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0

• USB/Thunderbolt Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

I don't know which would be useful but this is just the quote.

I was planning on using a 1080p monitor included in the budget and a second either 4k or same 1080p so that I could have a main monitor and a side one. Maybe a third but that's unlikely.

I'm getting a desktop instead of the laptop that I'm using at the moment as it's slowing down and I want more control over what my pc can do including future upgrades.
The build isn't finished and I'm not sure if its 'good'. It would be very helpful if someone could tell me if there are any improvements or budget cuts, things I don't need, that could be made. Thanks!

It will very well work but just make sure that the motherboard you're buying has updated BIOS for Ryzen 3rd gen or else it won't work out of the box...

[Meboi]

Ok, thanks.
I'm not sure how I would check things to do with bios, or if you're on about I should check it comes with that.
If it's to do with updating the bios on the mother board I would hope the people making it would do that for me. I feel like big stupid not knowing things about this lol. boomer 0.0

[heickelrrx]

10 hours ago, Meboi said:

Budget (including currency): Trying to keep it below £1000 but currently its ~£1200. Max. £1250

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Rainbow Six Siege, a few COD games, Minecraft(May need to run a Minecraft server at the same time).

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

The current build is as follows:

• Case COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE

• Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

• Motherboard ASUS® STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!

• Memory (RAM) 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)

• Graphics Card 6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!

• 1^st Storage Drive 2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE

• 1^st M.2 SSD Drive 500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)

• Power Supply CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

• Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

• Processor Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition

• Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND

• Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

• Network Card 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)

• Wireless Network Card WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0

• USB/Thunderbolt Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

I don't know which would be useful but this is just the quote.

I was planning on using a 1080p monitor included in the budget and a second either 4k or same 1080p so that I could have a main monitor and a side one. Maybe a third but that's unlikely.

I'm getting a desktop instead of the laptop that I'm using at the moment as it's slowing down and I want more control over what my pc can do including future upgrades.
The build isn't finished and I'm not sure if its 'good'. It would be very helpful if someone could tell me if there are any improvements or budget cuts, things I don't need, that could be made. Thanks!

are you sure this is under your budget? you should check again the price especially the video card one

anyway you can save some bucks, by going Intel

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£124.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (£131.49 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £256.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-04 06:39 BST+0100

[Guest]

15 hours ago, Meboi said:

Budget (including currency): Trying to keep it below £1000 but currently its ~£1200. Max. £1250

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Rainbow Six Siege, a few COD games, Minecraft(May need to run a Minecraft server at the same time).

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

The current build is as follows:

• Case COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE

• Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)

• Motherboard ASUS® STRIX B550-F GAMING (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!

• Memory (RAM) 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)

• Graphics Card 6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!

• 1^st Storage Drive 2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE

• 1^st M.2 SSD Drive 500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)

• Power Supply CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

• Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)

• Processor Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler Black Edition

• Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND

• Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

• Network Card 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)

• Wireless Network Card WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0

• USB/Thunderbolt Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

I don't know which would be useful but this is just the quote.

I was planning on using a 1080p monitor included in the budget and a second either 4k or same 1080p so that I could have a main monitor and a side one. Maybe a third but that's unlikely.

I'm getting a desktop instead of the laptop that I'm using at the moment as it's slowing down and I want more control over what my pc can do including future upgrades.
The build isn't finished and I'm not sure if its 'good'. It would be very helpful if someone could tell me if there are any improvements or budget cuts, things I don't need, that could be made. Thanks!

Do you need wifi 6 ? If so then something like the MSI B550 Gaming Edge Wifi might be cheaper. There is a wifi version of that Asus board though, so you wouldn't need the extra wifi card in that case.

 

https://rog.asus.com/uk/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-wi-fi-model/

 

I would change the Ram to 3200MHz - 3600MHz CL16 as 3000MHz is a bit slow.

 

Swap out the SSD for a WD Blue SN550 as that is more than good enough for a gaming pc. 

 

You don't need the extra thermal paste.

[kendrick lamar]

It will work fine and very nicely, high quality parts.

Yet I think there is a big room to improvement regarding your build balance.

you invested a lot of money for quality mobo that you really don't need even with an overclock - 3600 won't overclock that far. Even a basic Gigabyte B450M-S2H has decent VRMs to be capable with your requirements. 

SSD Gen4 is a waste of money for gaming. Even SATA vs NVME loading time performance gap mostly doesn't exist. A solid nvme like the WD SN550 is a great choice here.

case is overpriced but thats your money and preferences so do whatever you want

should get a faster RAM, amd benefits from it.

 

anyways thats my counter suggestion

please @ me if you want a reply

 

some notes

* beefy cpu cooler for best OC performance, if you wanna leave that out just go for your original choice.

* big wattage psu for future gpu upgrade support, quality 500-600W will be fine for this system.

* gpu is just a suggestion. Snag any GPU with this performance up to 700EUR, even second hand. RTX2060\70, GTX1070\80, GTX1660 SUPER/TI, 5600XT

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£150.00 @ Currys PC World) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  (£37.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.32 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£78.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£52.98 @ Box Limited) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£43.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card  (£719.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£77.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £1272.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-04 13:13 BST+0100

[Guest]

3 hours ago, kendrick lamar said:

It will work fine and very nicely, high quality parts.

Yet I think there is a big room to improvement regarding your build balance.

you invested a lot of money for quality mobo that you really don't need even with an overclock - 3600 won't overclock that far. Even a basic Gigabyte B450M-S2H has decent VRMs to be capable with your requirements. 

SSD Gen4 is a waste of money for gaming. Even SATA vs NVME loading time performance gap mostly doesn't exist. A solid nvme like the WD SN550 is a great choice here.

case is overpriced but thats your money and preferences so do whatever you want

should get a faster RAM, amd benefits from it.

 

anyways thats my counter suggestion

please @ me if you want a reply

 

some notes

* beefy cpu cooler for best OC performance, if you wanna leave that out just go for your original choice.

* big wattage psu for future gpu upgrade support, quality 500-600W will be fine for this system.

* gpu is just a suggestion. Snag any GPU with this performance up to 700EUR, even second hand. RTX2060\70, GTX1070\80, GTX1660 SUPER/TI, 5600XT

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£150.00 @ Currys PC World) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  (£37.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.32 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£78.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£52.98 @ Box Limited) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£43.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card  (£719.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£77.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £1272.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-04 13:13 BST+0100

That board is only good for a 6 core cpu so he would have no upgrade path. Also he needs wifi.

 

No way an RTX 2060 is worth £720. He would be better waiting for an RTX 30 series.

 

That psu isn't very good. The Corsair TXM 750W is the same price and is much better.

[Meboi]

12 hours ago, heickelrrx said:

are you sure this is under your budget? you should check again the price especially the video card one

anyway you can save some bucks, by going Intel

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£124.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (£131.49 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £256.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-04 06:39 BST+0100

@heickelrrx

._. ik this is over my budget i stated as much in the first line lol. also i'd rather not with intel as i've learnt that if u have money to spend its better to go with intel as their higher models are better than amd's ones, but considering im keeping prices low i'd rather not.

[Meboi]

7 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Do you need wifi 6 ? If so then something like the MSI B550 Gaming Edge Wifi might be cheaper. There is a wifi version of that Asus board though, so you wouldn't need the extra wifi card in that case.

 

https://rog.asus.com/uk/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-wi-fi-model/

 

I would change the Ram to 3200MHz - 3600MHz CL16 as 3000MHz is a bit slow.

 

Swap out the SSD for a WD Blue SN550 as that is more than good enough for a gaming pc. 

 

You don't need the extra thermal paste.

@lee32uk

wifi: yes, i included the wireless card in the parts list toward the bottom. unless i have not a clue about what a wireless card is.
ram: i dont want to go any higher. the ram is already upgraded from what i was gunna get for a small increase.

ssd: seems to be a popular opinion. will take that into consideration regarding the website limits/stock.

[Meboi]

6 hours ago, kendrick lamar said:

It will work fine and very nicely, high quality parts.

Yet I think there is a big room to improvement regarding your build balance.

you invested a lot of money for quality mobo that you really don't need even with an overclock - 3600 won't overclock that far. Even a basic Gigabyte B450M-S2H has decent VRMs to be capable with your requirements. 

SSD Gen4 is a waste of money for gaming. Even SATA vs NVME loading time performance gap mostly doesn't exist. A solid nvme like the WD SN550 is a great choice here.

case is overpriced but thats your money and preferences so do whatever you want

should get a faster RAM, amd benefits from it.

 

anyways thats my counter suggestion

please @ me if you want a reply

 

some notes

* beefy cpu cooler for best OC performance, if you wanna leave that out just go for your original choice.

* big wattage psu for future gpu upgrade support, quality 500-600W will be fine for this system.

* gpu is just a suggestion. Snag any GPU with this performance up to 700EUR, even second hand. RTX2060\70, GTX1070\80, GTX1660 SUPER/TI, 5600XT

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£150.00 @ Currys PC World) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  (£37.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.32 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£78.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£52.98 @ Box Limited) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£43.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card  (£719.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£77.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £1272.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-04 13:13 BST+0100

@kendrick lamar

motherboard: i'll see if i can go lower. again i have to make sure the website has them in stock (not using pcpart picker). also i moved to a higher one because of many minor reasons

ssd:yes. again sounds like a popular opinion.

case: comes with more fans and i cba to buy more. also the website has limited stock (covid)

memory: i remember when they were soooo cheep

video card: hapy with the one i already have. did a lot of research, tho prolly not enough to say ik enough but enough to know the 1660 is all i need.

 

[Meboi]

3 hours ago, XenoFalconM2 said:

Okay... so let's get ready for one heck of a review...

Found this useful sentence on ASUS website for your mobo: With the AMD Socket AM4 platform, ASUS 500 and 400 series motherboards are ready for the latest AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series desktop processors.

You should be all good with 3000 series BIOS compatibility (the latest BIOS is installed in 500 and 400 series ASUS mobos); plus you can upgrade to 5000 series in the future if you want.

Mi amigos! Ryzen 3600 is the best budget range gaming CPU... unless you are an Intel bandwagoner instead of a person who focuses on price to performance ratio... and I wonder if @Meboi wants to play anything CPU intensive... you might want to switch out the CPU with something a tad bit better (maybe boost in multicore power so you can run server and play at the same time without drop in fps?) if you want to host a proper 10+ player server... especially if you have any custom textures, shaders, or resource packs.

Also @heickelrrx, maybe you have accidentally done it, or you think that intel is cheaper due to flawed logic, but you have paired an amd mobo with intel processor which won't work... z490 mobos are more expensive in general but prices fluctuate and you could go with either 400/500 series mobo + amd cpu combo or z490 series mobo + intel 10th gen cpu combo based on cpu performance and total cost (maybe mobo features and upgradability will also be a factor).

 

@kendrick lamar the ram is good imo, the latency is really low at CL15 with 3000mhz... that's really good... but if you want to save around £10 you could always switch over to CL16 at 3200mhz because the price for those specs is lower due to more availability.

Ok... so my thoughts on this build (you can read my opinion or totally ignore it =D):

Overclocking potential is high on any decent mobo... the wraith stealth is not bad but it would be a crime to call it good... a "budget cut" on the m.2 would be very helpful because you won't see any noticeable performance difference between a high-tier m.2 (980 pro) and something mid to low-tier (maybe sn550 or crucial p1 3d nand). The boot time difference will honestly be a few seconds, which I would consider negligible and you don't really need to allocate much of your budget on the ssd unless you are a content creator, in which case there is constant rendering (cpu power) and file read/write (ssd speed) involved.

You could always shave a few pounds on the mobo but I think that it is more of a bias when ppl recommend diff. mobo because sometimes you just get really good features on a certain mobo that you want... (rog strix supremefx 1220a audio, a tonna usb ports, and wifi 6... :D).

You could change the cpu to have better performance on the minecraft server but the fps and lag reduction will be less than 20% so overclocking the 3600 will be the way to go (imo)... and you should definitely shave a few pounds from the ssd.

For cpu overclocking a good cooler doesn't need to be a liquid cooler... air cooler has better price to performance ratio and sometimes outperforms aio's for certain cpus or oc configs. You should take a look at the cpu cooler tier list here on (I won't recommend one explicitly because of my perfectionism... I only go for highest price to performance ratio, specs, reviews, etc... which is why I'll be quite biased when recommending a cpu cooler, whether it is aio or air):

Your gpu for your game selection is good and it fits perfectly with the 3600 (later, if you decide to upgrade pc, then your mobo will be able to handle ryzen 5000 series and you could easily switch out the 1660-S for maybe an rtx 3000 series since prices will settle back down and they will be more available... or you might prefer radeon, but, that is all speculation and future plans).

 

TL;DR

Final Verdict: shave a few pounds here and there (ssd & more popular 3200mhz ram w/ cl16 latency), make sure you don't have thermal throttling (overall cooling config... positive pressure for no dust, you're my best friend now... you might want at least one exhaust fan in the back for less extreme positive pressure so get another fan or take one of the front fans and shove it back there in the exhaust slot; positive pressure means more intake than exhaust which keeps dust out, 2 intakes and one exhaust is the sweet spot... especially if you want to overclock) and can overclock without overheating (cpu cooler) for minecraft server performance.

 

(@mention me so I can answer any questions if necessary)

Adios!

@XenoFalconM2holy. not gunna give my opinions on all of that. there is a lot. do u have a discord so we could talk in more detail rather than spamming this thread with msgs? (also further info on other things)

[heickelrrx]

4 hours ago, XenoFalconM2 said:

Okay... so let's get ready for one heck of a review...

Found this useful sentence on ASUS website for your mobo: With the AMD Socket AM4 platform, ASUS 500 and 400 series motherboards are ready for the latest AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series desktop processors.

You should be all good with 3000 series BIOS compatibility (the latest BIOS is installed in 500 and 400 series ASUS mobos); plus you can upgrade to 5000 series in the future if you want.

Mi amigos! Ryzen 3600 is the best budget range gaming CPU... unless you are an Intel bandwagoner instead of a person who focuses on price to performance ratio... and I wonder if @Meboi wants to play anything CPU intensive... you might want to switch out the CPU with something a tad bit better (maybe boost in multicore power so you can run server and play at the same time without drop in fps?) if you want to host a proper 10+ player server... especially if you have any custom textures, shaders, or resource packs.

Also @heickelrrx, maybe you have accidentally done it, or you think that intel is cheaper due to flawed logic, but you have paired an amd mobo with intel processor which won't work... z490 mobos are more expensive in general but prices fluctuate and you could go with either 400/500 series mobo + amd cpu combo or z490 series mobo + intel 10th gen cpu combo based on cpu performance and total cost (maybe mobo features and upgradability will also be a factor).

 

@kendrick lamar the ram is good imo, the latency is really low at CL15 with 3000mhz... that's really good... but if you want to save around £10 you could always switch over to CL16 at 3200mhz because the price for those specs is lower due to more availability.

Ok... so my thoughts on this build (you can read my opinion or totally ignore it =D):

Overclocking potential is high on any decent mobo... the wraith stealth is not bad but it would be a crime to call it good... a "budget cut" on the m.2 would be very helpful because you won't see any noticeable performance difference between a high-tier m.2 (980 pro) and something mid to low-tier (maybe sn550 or crucial p1 3d nand). The boot time difference will honestly be a few seconds, which I would consider negligible and you don't really need to allocate much of your budget on the ssd unless you are a content creator, in which case there is constant rendering (cpu power) and file read/write (ssd speed) involved.

You could always shave a few pounds on the mobo but I think that it is more of a bias when ppl recommend diff. mobo because sometimes you just get really good features on a certain mobo that you want... (rog strix supremefx 1220a audio, a tonna usb ports, and wifi 6... :D).

You could change the cpu to have better performance on the minecraft server but the fps and lag reduction will be less than 20% so overclocking the 3600 will be the way to go (imo)... and you should definitely shave a few pounds from the ssd.

For cpu overclocking a good cooler doesn't need to be a liquid cooler... air cooler has better price to performance ratio and sometimes outperforms aio's for certain cpus or oc configs. You should take a look at the cpu cooler tier list here on (I won't recommend one explicitly because of my perfectionism... I only go for highest price to performance ratio, specs, reviews, etc... which is why I'll be quite biased when recommending a cpu cooler, whether it is aio or air):

Your gpu for your game selection is good and it fits perfectly with the 3600 (later, if you decide to upgrade pc, then your mobo will be able to handle ryzen 5000 series and you could easily switch out the 1660-S for maybe an rtx 3000 series since prices will settle back down and they will be more available... or you might prefer radeon, but, that is all speculation and future plans).

 

TL;DR

Final Verdict: shave a few pounds here and there (ssd & more popular 3200mhz ram w/ cl16 latency), make sure you don't have thermal throttling (overall cooling config... positive pressure for no dust, you're my best friend now... you might want at least one exhaust fan in the back for less extreme positive pressure so get another fan or take one of the front fans and shove it back there in the exhaust slot; positive pressure means more intake than exhaust which keeps dust out, 2 intakes and one exhaust is the sweet spot... especially if you want to overclock) and can overclock without overheating (cpu cooler) for minecraft server performance.

 

(@mention me so I can answer any questions if necessary)

@XenoFalconM2

b560 is Intel chipset, and unlocked for memory overclocking, kindly recheck again and update with the news

 

Ryzen 3600 was the best value gaming CPU, it loses it’s value when it spike over 200$ and now intel adding more salt by introducing new B560 chipset unlocked for memory OC, currently the best value is on 10400F with B560

 

 

@Meboi you can go with intel 10th gen and expect similar performance with ryzen 3000 on the same core count, on most workload, even with locked i5 generally intel board will default the setting to allow the CPU hit all core boost all the time as long as thermal allow

 

with B560 you’re unlocked with memory overclock

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21 hours ago, lee32uk said:

That board is only good for a 6 core cpu so he would have no upgrade path. Also he needs wifi.

 

No way an RTX 2060 is worth £720. He would be better waiting for an RTX 30 series.

 

That psu isn't very good. The Corsair TXM 750W is the same price and is much better.

I don't think thats true, he could go for 5600X or even 5800x without oc.

can you please show me so reference? perhaps I am wrong.

 

please read my notes, rtx2060 is a suggestion and the entire price board is not the purpose of my suggestion. I suggested parts, im not aware of his local vendor prices.

 

BQ is a great one, why do you think it isn't? also, if its not very efficient the 750w will compensate for that. If you can find the TXM750w for the same price, then it is a better choice. 

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3 hours ago, kendrick lamar said:

I don't think thats true, he could go for 5600X or even 5800x without oc.

can you please show me so reference? perhaps I am wrong.

 

please read my notes, rtx2060 is a suggestion and the entire price board is not the purpose of my suggestion. I suggested parts, im not aware of his local vendor prices.

 

BQ is a great one, why do you think it isn't? also, if its not very efficient the 750w will compensate for that. If you can find the TXM750w for the same price, then it is a better choice. 

That board just has a terrible VRM full stop. It would be fine for a 3600 but I wouldn't put an 8 core on it as it will run hot. Also bear in mind the op needs wifi so you would still have to buy an adapter. Might as well spend an extra £40ish and get something like the MSI B550M PRO-VDH Wifi if he is fine with 802.11ac. 

 

You said snag any gpu with the same performance up to 700 EUR (£600). The only gpu worth buying at that price point would be an RTX 3xxx series. An RTX 3060/ti would be a better option if he can wait to get hold of one.

 

The BQ isn't very good though. Again go look at the psu tier list. The Corsair TXM is about the same price on pcpartpicker. Of course it depends what units are stocked from where he is buying.

[kendrick lamar]

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

That board just has a terrible VRM full stop. It would be fine for a 3600 but I wouldn't put an 8 core on it as it will run hot. Also bear in mind the op needs wifi so you would still have to buy an adapter. Might as well spend an extra £40ish and get something like the MSI B550M PRO-VDH Wifi if he is fine with 802.11ac. 

 

You said snag any gpu with the same performance up to 700 EUR (£600). The only gpu worth buying at that price point would be an RTX 3xxx series. An RTX 3060/ti would be a better option if he can wait to get hold of one.

 

The BQ isn't very good though. Again go look at the psu tier list. The Corsair TXM is about the same price on pcpartpicker. Of course it depends what units are stocked from where he is buying.

why do you say it has bad VRM? just look on the board and see.

As I said, 8 core is not ideal but is possible under stock config.

I didn't see the wifi, my mistake.

 

If he can get RTX3060 for under 700euros then go ahead, I didn't find any...

 

regarding psu, you just repeated my answer to you in my last comment.

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14 hours ago, kendrick lamar said:

why do you say it has bad VRM? just look on the board and see.

As I said, 8 core is not ideal but is possible under stock config.

I didn't see the wifi, my mistake.

 

If he can get RTX3060 for under 700euros then go ahead, I didn't find any...

 

regarding psu, you just repeated my answer to you in my last comment.

What do you mean by look on the board and see ? Did you even look at the tier list ? Go and look at buildzoid on youtube if you want further proof. It is not a good board.

 

There are no RTX 3060 in stock, but as he is going with a pre-build then he has a better chance of getting one.

 

You said the BQ is a great one ? Well it isn't. Also the efficiency has nothing to do with the quality of the unit. There is just no reason to get a Bronze rated psu in a £1000+ pc.

 

[kendrick lamar]

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

What do you mean by look on the board and see ? Did you even look at the tier list ? Go and look at buildzoid on youtube if you want further proof. It is not a good board.

 

There are no RTX 3060 in stock, but as he is going with a pre-build then he has a better chance of getting one.

 

You said the BQ is a great one ? Well it isn't. Also the efficiency has nothing to do with the quality of the unit. There is just no reason to get a Bronze rated psu in a £1000+ pc.

 

im not going to watch a 45 min video. If you make a statement make sure to propose some info regarding it. 

I can say tell you that god exist and to prove that just read the entire torah and talmod

I think people underestimate the capabilities of B series boards which are no longer refers to "business". The tier list shows max load, which realistically won't ever happen and even if it did, your mobo won't break down or something, it has a lot of protection from decades of development.

Also, I never recommended  going with a high-end cpu with that board, I said its optional. Be advised that my final built includes the 3600. I think this entire mobo discussion is pointless regarding the above reason.

 

RTX3060 is not in stock and going pre-build is a good idea mostly but the parts and services needs to be carefully researched, I dont think the forum's purpose is to advise on pre-builts.

 

You said the efficiency doesn't matter, yet you claim you cannot use bronze on high end pc. Im trying but I cant understand you. perhaps im lacking some good reading comprehension. The BQ is on Tier C which is completely fine for mid graded system (Which it is mid, you got basic\avg gpu+cpu capabilities).

 

Please make sure to reference your claims, so you don't mislead me, the buyer and any of the forum users.

Im aware its kind of hard getting exact info on your claims, do people usually choose high-end components to be safe, but its fine for the most part.

 

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2 minutes ago, kendrick lamar said:

im not going to watch a 45 min video. If you make a statement make sure to propose some info regarding it. 

I can say tell you that god exist and to prove that just read the entire torah and talmod

I think people underestimate the capabilities of B series boards which are no longer refers to "business". The tier list shows max load, which realistically won't ever happen and even if it did, your mobo won't break down or something, it has a lot of protection from decades of development.

Also, I never recommended  going with a high-end cpu with that board, I said its optional. Be advised that my final built includes the 3600. I think this entire mobo discussion is pointless regarding the above reason.

 

RTX3060 is not in stock and going pre-build is a good idea mostly but the parts and services needs to be carefully researched, I dont think the forum's purpose is to advise on pre-builts.

 

You said the efficiency doesn't matter, yet you claim you cannot use bronze on high end pc. Im trying but I cant understand you. perhaps im lacking some good reading comprehension. The BQ is on Tier C which is completely fine for mid graded system (Which it is mid, you got basic\avg gpu+cpu capabilities).

 

Please make sure to reference your claims, so you don't mislead me, the buyer and any of the forum users.

Who said you have to watch a 45 min video ? You realise you can skip to the relevant part ?

 

The B series boards on AMD are not Business class and never have been. That is an Intel thing. Also max load will never happen ? What ? Not sure what you are smoking.

 

Not going to reply to the rest of your post as it is mostly nonsense.

[kendrick lamar]

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Who said you have to watch a 45 min video ? You realise you can skip to the relevant part ?

 

The B series boards on AMD are not Business class and never have been. That is an Intel thing. Also max load will never happen ? What ? Not sure what you are smoking.

 

Not going to reply to the rest of your post as it is mostly nonsense.

point being the mobo I added to my build will be fine with a 3600.

BQ is a good psu and it is verified by ltt psu tier list.

he can find a good card for up to 700euros.

sn550 is dram less which is my mistake.

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1 hour ago, kendrick lamar said:

point being the mobo I added to my build will be fine with a 3600.

BQ is a good psu and it is verified by ltt psu tier list.

he can find a good card for up to 700euros.

sn550 is dram less which is my mistake.

Yes it will be fine with a 3600, but if he wants to upgrade to an 8 core or more in the future he is screwed. You can get an MSI B450M Mortar MAX for not much more.

 

The BQ is Tier C vs Tier A for the Corsair TXM. They are both roughly the same price (£2 difference), so which makes more sense ?

 

You were suggesting a card with similar performance to an RTX 2060 for up to 700 Euros though. That was my point. Any last gen card isn't worth that amount. If he is getting a prebuild then some places have RTX3xxx in stock.

 

I didn't mention the SSD. The SN550 is actually fine for a gaming pc.

[kendrick lamar]

10 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Yes it will be fine with a 3600, but if he wants to upgrade to an 8 core or more in the future he is screwed. You can get an MSI B450M Mortar MAX for not much more.

 

The BQ is Tier C vs Tier A for the Corsair TXM. They are both roughly the same price (£2 difference), so which makes more sense ?

 

You were suggesting a card with similar performance to an RTX 2060 for up to 700 Euros though. That was my point. Any last gen card isn't worth that amount. If he is getting a prebuild then some places have RTX3xxx in stock.

 

I didn't mention the SSD. The SN550 is actually fine for a gaming pc.

As I said TXM is a good choice if you can find it.

component choices should be efficient but not perfect, It won't matter much if he takes the BQ or TXM eventually.

 

SN550 is good for gaming but DRAM is important imo if budget allowes, transfering files will not be a hassle.

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29 minutes ago, kendrick lamar said:

As I said TXM is a good choice if you can find it.

component choices should be efficient but not perfect, It won't matter much if he takes the BQ or TXM eventually.

 

SN550 is good for gaming but DRAM is important imo if budget allowes, transfering files will not be a hassle.

Good job it is easy to find then. You also don't seem to realise that the psu is probably the single most important component in a pc. For the sake of £2 the TXM is a no brainer.

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/power-supplies/corsair-tx750m-semi-modular-atx-psu-750-w-10191071-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=ittixqtqq&istBid=t&awc=1599_1617738688_f5f440b989449cfd377914be6aa4eb45&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~PCPartPicker~Communities+%26+UGC~127079~PCPartPicker

 

The lack of DRAM isn't critical for a gaming pc. The SN550 doesn't suffer any performance issues under normal usage. If this was a workstation pc where he was doing lots of heavy data usage then it would be different. For gaming it won't matter. The SN750 isn't much more on pcpartpicker, but it depends on the place he is buying from whether they have it for that price.

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2 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Good job it is easy to find then. You also don't seem to realise that the psu is probably the single most important component in a pc. For the sake of £2 the TXM is a no brainer.

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/power-supplies/corsair-tx750m-semi-modular-atx-psu-750-w-10191071-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=ittixqtqq&istBid=t&awc=1599_1617738688_f5f440b989449cfd377914be6aa4eb45&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~PCPartPicker~Communities+%26+UGC~127079~PCPartPicker

 

The lack of DRAM isn't critical for a gaming pc. The SN550 doesn't suffer any performance issues under normal usage. If this was a workstation pc where he was doing lots of heavy data usage then it would be different. For gaming it won't matter. The SN750 isn't much more on pcpartpicker, but it depends on the place he is buying from whether they have it for that price.

you keep repeating me and saying like I said something wrong. I said that the TXM is worthwhile if you can get it for around the same price. Why would you get anything worst for the same price? thats unlogical. In my origin country the difference between them is around 20$.

Just because psu is the most important part on the pc (in your opinion but okay) doesn't mean you should spend extra money for it.

 

again repeating me

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52 minutes ago, kendrick lamar said:

you keep repeating me and saying like I said something wrong. I said that the TXM is worthwhile if you can get it for around the same price. Why would you get anything worst for the same price? thats unlogical. In my origin country the difference between them is around 20$.

Just because psu is the most important part on the pc (in your opinion but okay) doesn't mean you should spend extra money for it.

 

again repeating me

You said either psu would be fine did you not ? Not sure why you are still arguing the fact when I have said twice that they are roughly the same price. The BQ shouldn't even be in the equation.

 

What does the price difference in your Country have to do with anything ? The only relevant prices are UK ones. Also £2 is hardly extra money. If you are fine with low end psu's then that is your call, but don't suggest it to other people if there is something better for the same cost.

[kendrick lamar]

7 hours ago, lee32uk said:

You said either psu would be fine did you not ? Not sure why you are still arguing the fact when I have said twice that they are roughly the same price. The BQ shouldn't even be in the equation.

 

What does the price difference in your Country have to do with anything ? The only relevant prices are UK ones. Also £2 is hardly extra money. If you are fine with low end psu's then that is your call, but don't suggest it to other people if there is something better for the same cost.

oh my god are you nuts? I thought I was misleading you but you just don't get what im saying right?

Im on your side, IF YOU CAN GET IT FOR 2EUR MORE THEN GO AHEAD! I SAID IT LIKE 4 TIMES WHAT THE HELL MAN