10600K Overclocking & Temps

[5h0ckw4v3]

Hi,

 

I got a new PC very recently and trying to figure out how overclocking works. I've tried watching some YouTube videos and reading a bunch of articles on the web, but now I'm even more confused. I'm hoping you guys will help me understand this better.

 

The PC is used mostly for graphical work (Illustrator, Photoshop, After Effects, Blender) and some light gaming. It performs really well, but I've been told it's running hotter than usual and that it could do a little better. The build came overclocked (using Asus MCE) from the shop I bought it from.

 

Processor: Intel i5 10600K @ All core 4.5 Ghz

Motherboard: Asus Prime Z490M-Plus

RAM: Gigabyte Aorus 2x8 GB RAM 3200 Mhz @ 3200 Mhz

Cooler: Lian Li Galahad 240mm AIO

Storage: 2 M.2 SSD's and a 1 TB HDD

 

The CPU temp sits around 47-50 degrees celsius on idle and jumps to 73-78 degrees on load. As a layman, I assume these are good temps, but I'm told otherwise and that the MCE is terrible at handling voltages and that it may be overvolting the CPU and that's what's producing so much heat.

 

Should I be happy with this result? Should I turn off MCE and resort to manual overclocking? Please, shed more light.

[jones177]

MCE is hot especially on a budget board.

 

All my Intel 6 cores are manually overclocked to their boost clock and idle in the low 30s using NH-D15s.  They run about 4c hotter using MCE and produce less frames. 

[Mister Woof]

You will get better results from manual tuning on these chips - usually even better performance and less power/heat than stock.

 

MCE applies liberal voltage to try to get these chips as stable as possible across numerous samples and configurations. 

 

For individual samples, it's often way more than necessary.

 

[straight_stewie]

Those aren't terrible temperatures, but there's room for improvement. 

If you find it difficult to understand, you can just leave it alone, and if those are really the peak temperatures, you should be fine for many years still.

[5h0ckw4v3]

1 hour ago, jones177 said:

MCE is hot especially on a budget board.

 

All my Intel 6 cores are manually overclocked to their boost clock and idle in the low 30s using NH-D15s.  They run about 4c hotter using MCE and produce less frames. 

Thank you all for taking the time to reply. Is there a good starting voltage guideline if I wanted to overclock it to 4.8 ghz all core?

[jones177]

10 minutes ago, 5h0ckw4v3 said:

Thank you all for taking the time to reply. Is there a good starting voltage guideline if I wanted to overclock it to 4.8 ghz all core?

Intel CPUs have performances plateaus and with the this one it is 5ghz. So that is where to start. I use 1.344v and that is good for up to 5.1ghz on my i7 8086ks.  The next plateau is at around 5.3ghz.

My all core 5ghz Intels compete very well against my R7 5800X CPU so it is the way to go.

[Mister Woof]

21 minutes ago, 5h0ckw4v3 said:

Thank you all for taking the time to reply. Is there a good starting voltage guideline if I wanted to overclock it to 4.8 ghz all core?

With that cooler, I'd set it to 1.35v and 5ghz with a middle-setting LLC.

 

Test with a stress test of your choice (i prefer Realbench 1 hour) and then a gamut of your own applications. If it's stable, lower voltage until it isn't, then back up a smidge. If it isn't, either lower frequency by 1 multiplier or increase voltage in small increments up to 1.4v (this is the general accepted range, but cooling becomes a problem past 1.35v anyway). I think 10600K is better than my 8700k thermally, so you'll probably be able to get to 5ghz easily at 1.3 or so.

 

4.8 is pretty mild and you could probably do that at 1.25v or less.

[5h0ckw4v3]

1 hour ago, Mister Woof said:

With that cooler, I'd set it to 1.35v and 5ghz with a middle-setting LLC.

 

Test with a stress test of your choice (i prefer Realbench 1 hour) and then a gamut of your own applications. If it's stable, lower voltage until it isn't, then back up a smidge. If it isn't, either lower frequency by 1 multiplier or increase voltage in small increments up to 1.4v (this is the general accepted range, but cooling becomes a problem past 1.35v anyway). I think 10600K is better than my 8700k thermally, so you'll probably be able to get to 5ghz easily at 1.3 or so.

 

4.8 is pretty mild and you could probably do that at 1.25v or less.

i spent almost a day trying to overclock this. Yes, cooling has become an issue at this point. I was able to overclock it to 4.7 ghz all cores at 1.35 volts. Any lower and it crashes during AVX stress testing. Temps are sitting at 45 at idle and up to 77 during stress tests with an occasional spike to 80.

[Mister Woof]

6 minutes ago, 5h0ckw4v3 said:

i spent almost a day trying to overclock this. Yes, cooling has become an issue at this point. I was able to overclock it to 4.7 ghz all cores at 1.35 volts. Any lower and it crashes during AVX stress testing. Temps are sitting at 45 at idle and up to 77 during stress tests with an occasional spike to 80.

Have you increased LLC?

[5h0ckw4v3]

1 hour ago, Mister Woof said:

Have you increased LLC?

I set it to level 4, that option is recommended by the BIOS.

[Mister Woof]

14 minutes ago, 5h0ckw4v3 said:

I set it to level 4, that option is recommended by the BIOS.

I don't know what level that is for your board, but when you've overclocking usually you'll need to be a little more aggressive with this setting - more than the middle setting.

 

If you're crashing during AVX its probably drooping too much and this will reduce some of that. 

[5h0ckw4v3]

2 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

I don't know what level that is for your board, but when you've overclocking usually you'll need to be a little more aggressive with this setting - more than the middle setting.

 

If you're crashing during AVX its probably drooping too much and this will reduce some of that. 

Thank you so much for clearing that up. I've settled for 4.5 Ghz for now. I don't think this motherboard is made for extreme overclocks, also the cooler isn't up for this task in my humble opinion. I'm getting very nice temps now, after fiddling around in the BIOS, I'll stop here.