Bad FPS

[Burna]

Hi everyone! I'm really new at gaming and I'm having an issue with my GPU. I recently changed for a GTX 960 to a GTX 1650 Super. After changing, my FPS is really whack and I'm not sure what to do. I did do an update and not sure if that's the issue. I was running way better on the 960, getting close to 75 FPS, which isn't bad for that card. Now I'm barely getting 50 after the swap. Also, until I get my other PC setup, I'm running on PC to stream and play. I know my CPU maxes out but didn't know if there was anything I could do on that end as well. I have an Optiplex 9020 with an i7-4770 @ 3.2 GHz 32GB of RAM. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

[King of Memes]

theres no such thing as a GTX 1050 super

[Dedayog]

8 minutes ago, Burna said:

Hi everyone! I'm really new at gaming and I'm having an issue with my GPU. I recently changed for a GTX 960 to a GTX 1050 Super. After changing, my FPS is really whack and I'm not sure what to do. I did do an update and not sure if that's the issue. I was running way better on the 960, getting close to 75 FPS, which isn't bad for that card. Now I'm barely getting 50 after the swap. Also, until I get my other PC setup, I'm running on PC to stream and play. I know my CPU maxes out but didn't know if there was anything I could do on that end as well. I have an Optiplex 9020 with an i7-4770 @ 3.2 GHz 32GB of RAM. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

Which 1050 do you have exactly?  It matters.

 

The GTX960 is better than the base 1050, for example.

[Burna]

My mistake, 1650 Super

[Rameares]

The GTX 960 usually performs better than the GTX 1050.

 

10 is new than 9 but an 50 level card is worse than a 60 level card. Nvidia cards are generally rated at 50, 60, 70, 80, 90. not every generation gets all of thsoe for example GTX 16 only has 50 and 60. as a rough rule dropping one rating and moving to next generation will give similar performance.

[Burna]

14 minutes ago, King of Memes said:

theres no such thing as a GTX 1050 super

My mistake, 1650 Super

[Burna]

3 minutes ago, Rameares said:

The GTX 960 usually performs better than the GTX 1050.

 

10 is new than 9 but an 50 level card is worse than a 60 level card. Nvidia cards are generally rated at 50, 60, 70, 80, 90. not every generation gets all of thsoe for example GTX 16 only has 50 and 60. as a rough rule dropping one rating and moving to next generation will give similar performance.

I mistyped. It's a 1650 Super, not 1050

[Rameares]

8 minutes ago, Burna said:

My mistake, 1650 Super

Ensure drivers are up to date try a DUU.

 

Are you running games on auto settings the game may of upped the settings to match the new hardware aiming for a 60 fps but not quite reaching it.

 

Also some benchmarks or in game tracking of the hardware will help. Benchmarks are better you know it's running the same settings.

 

try userbenchmark the 1650 should get a score of 60%

[Burna]

I'm a complete noob and I don't know what a DUU is. I have everything set for low, except for maybe a few thing and I have max setting at 80 FPS for now.

[curiousmind34]

17 minutes ago, Burna said:

Hi everyone! I'm really new at gaming and I'm having an issue with my GPU. I recently changed for a GTX 960 to a GTX 1650 Super. After changing, my FPS is really whack and I'm not sure what to do. I did do an update and not sure if that's the issue. I was running way better on the 960, getting close to 75 FPS, which isn't bad for that card. Now I'm barely getting 50 after the swap. Also, until I get my other PC setup, I'm running on PC to stream and play. I know my CPU maxes out but didn't know if there was anything I could do on that end as well. I have an Optiplex 9020 with an i7-4770 @ 3.2 GHz 32GB of RAM. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

Could it be something with the CPU/chipset or something like that being too old to be optimized for a graphics card? You said it seems to be maxing out, so likely something is wrong with your cpu, or maybe there is more overhead to running a 1650 super?  Is it something to do with Windows or BIOS?

I don't know the answer to any of these, but these are legitimate questions to ask.
 

[Burna]

1 minute ago, curiousmind34 said:

Could it be something with the CPU/chipset or something like that being too old to be optimized for a graphics card? You said it seems to be maxing out, so likely something is wrong with your cpu, or maybe there is more overhead to running a 1650 super?  Is it something to do with Windows or BIOS?

I don't know the answer to any of these, but these are legitimate questions to ask.
 

Gotcha. I appreciate the feedback and I'll ask these as well.

[Downkey]

Did you uninstall the old drivers with DDU? After did you install the new ones?

[Rameares]

7 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

Could it be something with the CPU/chipset or something like that being too old to be optimized for a graphics card? You said it seems to be maxing out, so likely something is wrong with your cpu, or maybe there is more overhead to running a 1650 super?  Is it something to do with Windows or BIOS?

I don't know the answer to any of these, but these are legitimate questions to ask.
 

Sorry DDU (display driver uninstaller) it's software that will remove all drivers for the GPU allowing you to install the latest with out the risk of conflicts. probably worth a try in a few hours if you don't get any better responses if the card is working the drivers are probably ok.

[Burna]

16 minutes ago, Rameares said:

Sorry DDU (display driver uninstaller) it's software that will remove all drivers for the GPU allowing you to install the latest with out the risk of conflicts. probably worth a try in a few hours if you don't get any better responses if the card is working the drivers are probably ok.

Would this be in program files?

[Rameares]

It is a piece of software. You first need to uninstall the drivers then restart windows in safe mode and run the DDU it will remove a lot more from windows about the drivers than just a standard uninstall. It's third part software recommended sources are Wagnardsoft or Guru3d

 

Have you check windows is up to date manually go into control panel and check for updates mine system didn't auto update to 20H2.

 

Also check and download the latest drivers from Nvidia's website.

 

I'd do these two first updates normally solve known bugs and the system will take care of these and walk you through.

 

 

[MultiGamerClub]

5 hours ago, Burna said:

Would this be in program files?

No.

 

Download this: Display Driver Uninstaller (Guru3D)

 

Assuming you are using windows 10 when im rambling down below:

 

Place it wherever, usually just dump it in the download folder.

 

Then unzip it, if you dont know how. (Just right click "pack out all files" and click yes on the location window)

 

From this point you want to go to windows settings > Update and security > "Advanced startup" and press restart now.

 

This should get you to a blue windowless screen where you got some options..

 

There should be a option called "Start-up settings", go into that and press restart.

 

After the restart there will pop up a window where its asking you what you want to do, press 4 (Should be safe-mode option)

 

After the option safe-mode is enabled you should pop into safe mode and be able to run DDU safely.

 

After the uninstall of the old drivers, *boot into windows and install your new drivers.

 

This is atleast the route ive done from upgrading from older graphic cards to newer

or changing from a 1070 to a 2080s that im currently still rocking.

Edited March 22, 2021 by MultiGamerClub
*fixed

[Burna]

1 hour ago, Rameares said:

It is a piece of software. You first need to uninstall the drivers then restart windows in safe mode and run the DDU it will remove a lot more from windows about the drivers than just a standard uninstall. It's third part software recommended sources are Wagnardsoft or Guru3d

 

Have you check windows is up to date manually go into control panel and check for updates mine system didn't auto update to 20H2.

 

Also check and download the latest drivers from Nvidia's website.

 

I'd do these two first updates normally solve known bugs and the system will take care of these and walk you through.

 

 

Thank you!

[Burna]

50 minutes ago, MultiGamerClub said:

No.

 

Download this: Display Driver Uninstaller (Guru3D)

 

Assuming you are using windows 10 when im rambling down below:

 

Place it wherever, usually just dump it in the download folder.

 

Then unzip it, if you dont know how. (Just right click "pack out all files" and click yes on the location window)

 

From this point you want to go to windows settings > Update and security > "Advanced startup" and press restart now.

 

This should get you to a blue windowless screen where you got some options..

 

There should be a option called "Start-up settings", go into that and press restart.

 

After the restart there will pop up a window where its asking you what you want to do, press 4 (Should be safe-mode option)

 

After the option safe-mode is enabled you should pop into safe mode and be able to run DDU safely.

 

After the uninstall of the old drivers, do the exact same thing and install the new drivers.

 

This is atleast the route ive done from upgrading from older graphic cards to newer

or changing from a 1070 to a 2080s that im currently still rocking.

Thank you for the info! Hopefully I can do this...lol

[MultiGamerClub]

1 hour ago, Burna said:

Thank you for the info! Hopefully I can do this...lol

1 hour ago, did you get it working?

[Burna]

1 hour ago, MultiGamerClub said:

1 hour ago, did you get it working?

I'm getting ready to work on it now. Is there a particular version of the driver I should go with?

[MultiGamerClub]

12 minutes ago, Burna said:

I'm getting ready to work on it now. Is there a particular version of the driver I should go with?

NOTE: Just pick the "new graphics card" option in DDU when your un-installing the previous versions.

 

This reminds me, when your done using the DDU tool, you dont have to go into safe-mode to install the new drivers. (Must be tired, will remove that from the post above, *fixed)

 

Then boot normal into windows and windows will detect your hardware and configure itself, or it should get you a working display driver in the meantime.

 

You have 2 options:

1. Geforce experience for an overlay with shadowplay recording software. (Found here: Automatic Driver Updates - Do note: You need a nvidia account to "personalize" your settings as they say, but its not a big issue.)

2. Geforce standalone drivers with just the drivers for the latest adviced drivers for your card. (Found here: GeForce Game Ready Driver - The one linked here is the standalone version, latest as of 16'th march 2021)

Edited March 22, 2021 by MultiGamerClub
Moved the "NOTE" a bit up.