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4 minutes ago, Downkey said:

get a 3600, oc your ram and call it a day. 

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Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $82.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $282.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 12:05 EDT-0400  

 

He's in portugal, and in portugal ryzen 5 3600 is 207 euro, so here is my list. Also the ram mhz can be lower here and still good performance
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/VRLnp2

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€136.05 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: MSI B460M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (€85.27 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €221.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 16:07 WET+0000

Budget (including currency): It's difficult.

Country: Portugal

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: VALORANT

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): So right now I have a i5 6600k OC 4.4 and a 1060 with 16GB 2666MHz mobo is an MSI Z270 Gaming Plus.

 

I was thinking to change to AMD to a Ryzen 5 2600 in a B450 Gigabyte Aorus Elite V2 mobo, a friend of mine said I could also buy the i7 9700k but I think it's too much for a 3yo MSI 1060 Gaming X.

I just want to game and stream in peace. If its just game its fine aswel. Budget sucks rn I just want an upgrade low cost that works. (BTW my mobo pins were bent in maintenence but were succefully bent back and worked while testing.)

 

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Just now, Viciouszzz said:

Budget (including currency): It's difficult.

Country: Portugal

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: VALORANT

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): So right now I have a i5 6600k OC 4.4 and a 1060 with 16GB 2666MHz mobo is an MSI Z270 Gaming Plus.

 

I was thinking to change to AMD to a Ryzen 5 2600 in a B450 Gigabyte Aorus Elite V2 mobo, a friend of mine said I could also buy the i7 9700k but I think it's too much for a 3yo MSI 1060 Gaming X.

I just want to game and stream in peace. If its just game its fine aswel. Budget sucks rn I just want an upgrade low cost that works. (BTW my mobo pins were bent in maintenence but were succefully bent back and worked while testing.)

 

Also this is my long time upgrade when a job comes in play.

https://prnt.sc/10nd9h9 Don't mind opinions here too.

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Just now, Viciouszzz said:

Budget (including currency): It's difficult.

Country: Portugal

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: VALORANT

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): So right now I have a i5 6600k OC 4.4 and a 1060 with 16GB 2666MHz mobo is an MSI Z270 Gaming Plus.

 

I was thinking to change to AMD to a Ryzen 5 2600 in a B450 Gigabyte Aorus Elite V2 mobo, a friend of mine said I could also buy the i7 9700k but I think it's too much for a 3yo MSI 1060 Gaming X.

I just want to game and stream in peace. If its just game its fine aswel. Budget sucks rn I just want an upgrade low cost that works. (BTW my mobo pins were bent in maintenence but were succefully bent back and worked while testing.)

 

get a 3600, oc your ram and call it a day. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $82.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $282.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 12:05 EDT-0400  

 

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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1 minute ago, Downkey said:

get a 3600, oc your ram and call it a day. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $82.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $282.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 12:05 EDT-0400  

 

XMP profiles are enabled, sorry OC my RAM how? I'll check my country's stores to see if theres better prices for those parts, thank you aswell.

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4 minutes ago, Downkey said:

get a 3600, oc your ram and call it a day. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $82.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $282.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 12:05 EDT-0400  

 

He's in portugal, and in portugal ryzen 5 3600 is 207 euro, so here is my list. Also the ram mhz can be lower here and still good performance
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/VRLnp2

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€136.05 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: MSI B460M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (€85.27 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €221.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 16:07 WET+0000

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3 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

He's in portugal, and in portugal ryzen 5 3600 is 207 euro, so here. Also the ram mhz can be lower here and still good performance
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/VRLnp2

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€136.05 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: MSI B460M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (€85.27 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €221.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 16:07 WET+0000

I'll need a new water cooler for the cpu. my Corsair H80i V2 doesn't support it ahah. Thanks! But this is my idea, a 10th gen cpu in a 3yo 1060 is really okay? Bcs rn I get bottleneck bcs my CPU takes thw whole pc workload when I play, and cpu stays btwn 90-100% workload.

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Get an i5-10400f. You can find it for basically the same price as a Ryzen 5 2600 if not lower price. Using the 1060 isn't a problem, but your CPU is definitely capable of handling a better GPU. You wouldn't NEED an AIO for that CPU, a budget air cooler would be more than enough, but it's up to you.

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Recommendations: Lian Li 205m (sleek, pretty decent airflow for a non-mesh front panel and cheap), i5-10400f (Ryzen 5 3600 performance, 20% cheaper), Arctic P14 PWM fans, Logitech g305.

 

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Just now, tishous said:

Get an i5-10400f. You can find it for basically the same price as a Ryzen 5 2600 if not lower price. Using the 1060 isn't a problem, but your CPU is definitely capable of handling a better GPU. You wouldn't NEED an AIO for that CPU, a budget air cooler would be more than enough, but it's up to you.

But in my head that cpu seems overkill for a 1060, could you explain if you want ofc.

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2 minutes ago, Viciouszzz said:

But in my head that cpu seems overkill for a 1060, could you explain if you want ofc.

It doesn't really matter if it's "overkill" or not. You just want to get the best CPU you can that fits in your budget. I'm not sure what your budget is, but I'm just saying that the i5 10400f performs quite a bit better than the Ryzen 5 2600 for roughly the same price, so you'd wanna get the i5.

The more I learn, the more I realise I don't actually know anything. 

 

Recommendations: Lian Li 205m (sleek, pretty decent airflow for a non-mesh front panel and cheap), i5-10400f (Ryzen 5 3600 performance, 20% cheaper), Arctic P14 PWM fans, Logitech g305.

 

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1 minute ago, tishous said:

It doesn't really matter if it's "overkill" or not. You just want to get the best CPU you can that fits in your budget. I'm not sure what your budget is, but I'm just saying that the i5 10400f performs quite a bit better than the Ryzen 5 2600 for roughly the same price, so you'd wanna get the i5.

I see, so care more about the processing unit and GPU can be lower that it's fine, well I'll check to see if my budget can hold that. Thank you for explaining and helping @tishous
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7 minutes ago, Viciouszzz said:

But in my head that cpu seems overkill for a 1060, could you explain if you want ofc.

I'm not saying do it or don't here. You know your needs better than anyone else here. However, what typically comes after a CPU upgrade? GPU.

If you get a CPU that is a little "overkill" now. You get performance boost from that. Depending on games and resolution, if it's not used fully, when you upgrade your GPU, you get a boost from the GPU and what ever bit that opens up on the CPU side. 

I see it as a "Upgrade now and later" CPU thing.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

I'm not saying do it or don't here. You know your needs better than anyone else here. However, what typically comes after a CPU upgrade? GPU.

If you get a CPU that is a little "overkill" now. You get performance boost from that. Depending on games and resolution, if it's not used fully, when you upgrade your GPU, you get a boost from the GPU and what ever bit that opens up on the CPU side. 

I see it as a "Upgrade now and later" CPU thing.

Damn, that touched my brain hard. Well yeah I can see it that way aswell. It seems like the better option.

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9 minutes ago, Viciouszzz said:

Damn, that touched my brain hard. Well yeah I can see it that way aswell. It seems like the better option.

Stuff like Witcher and other heavy GPU games won't see much of a boost right away if you're already GPU bound. You'll see the biggest boost from the 3600 or 10400f is in the more "esports" titles. CS:GO, DOTA, Overwatch etc. They tend to be more CPU reliant.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tbCORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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39 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

He's in portugal, and in portugal ryzen 5 3600 is 207 euro, so here is my list. Also the ram mhz can be lower here and still good performance
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/VRLnp2

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€136.05 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: MSI B460M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (€85.27 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €221.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-16 16:07 WET+0000

wait did i not choose a portugal list? I typed in pl.pcpartpicker ;/

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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16 minutes ago, Viciouszzz said:

Damn, that touched my brain hard. Well yeah I can see it that way aswell. It seems like the better option.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor €136.05 @ PC Componentes
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler €31.90 @ PCDIGA
Motherboard ASRock B460M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard €96.73 @ PC Componentes
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €264.68
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geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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